Koran Mentions Worm Holes Through Which Aliens Will Invade Earth! , page 9

reply to post by mikesingh

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Mike the site you link in your OP also says this.

There is a wormhole right here on Earth that connects Earth to another planet that has life.

Enough said about the sites inerpretation of a traditional religion, updated to fit in with a belief in ET.
This is why ET is becoming more and more a religion IMHO.
With no real evidence, people have to re-invent traditional beliefs to fit in with a new paradigm that says it is possible for ET to exist.
Its like a fill in the blanks game now. Erase all the old gods and insert "aliens here, here and here", but only where it is mildly plausible to those not as familiar with the ancient texts, scriptures and writings. We see people doing this with Eziekiel, Summerian texts, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, Myan calenders, cave paintings. If you apply a belief to any conent within this context you will see that belief in it, at sometime.

I am suprised the author of the website didn't claim the Towers built at all Mosques where in fact rocket ships. Ready for the worm holes.

Magog, Gog, Yagog. All appear in Jewish and Islamic scriptures. As tribes. And in the Islamic End of Days also, as one of the ten signs along with he return of Jesus.

Would Love a link to were I can find the worm hole hear on Earth.

reply to post by atlasastro

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Do you wonder what those Greek, Egyptian and Hindu Gods were? How about 'angels'? How come they're mentioned in every religion from civilizations that had absolutely no contact with each other? What was this universal concept? How did it come into being? Similar beliefs are also found in tribes in the Amazon that had never ventured beyond the next mountain range!

Coincidence? Impossible! The odds are a trillion to one! I can't imagine the myriad tribes and cultures separated by thousands of miles having the same belief systems!

What did the Egyptians have to do with the Orion Constellation? And Sirius? What was the connection? Did the 'Gods' come from there?



Cheers!

Originally posted by mikesingh
reply to post by atlasastro

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Do you wonder what those Greek, Egyptian and Hindu Gods were? How about 'angels'? How come they're mentioned in every religion from civilizations that had absolutely no contact with each other?

Of course I wonder! It is interesting that you mention "angels" as this is the point I am making, there are these universal elements that have a traditional explanation, they are now being replaced with ET, but in-fact, this is just as abstract at the moment as Ideas of Angels, G*D's, Spirits etc.

What was this universal concept?

Yes, the question many of us seek.

How did it come into being? Similar beliefs are also found in tribes in the Amazon that had never ventured beyond the next mountain range!

Well, they could be inspired by the shared psyche of humans, a common ability to extract explanation for existence from universe.
Ask yourself these questions. Why leave us with an abstract idea of what they are. Why has it been left to an interpretation of things, and not a concrete and solid history of these ET's and there influence on US. Why do we now interpret these histories as being of ET origin. Is it because the idea is now considered possible by our development in technology and science that gives us these possibiliteis?
Are these not cultural interpretations too? Of our universe!
Like the ones we believe our ancestors had of G*Ds and Spirits and Angels.
All these cultures also had shared morals, farming techniques, ideologies and social structures. Do we attribute all of these to ET aswell, or only the abstracts that are unexplainable, like discriptions of G*Ds , flying chariots, gog, magog etc that the ET/UFO community update as ancient astronauts that have visited and influenced us in the past.
We cannot second guess the history of these peoples with our own, just as abstract i might add, source of ET's, Et's we can't show except to point at history while we re-write it.

Coincidence? Impossible! The odds are a trillion to one! I can't imagine the myriad tribes and cultures separated by thousands of miles having the same belief systems!

So that automatically means its ET. Come on Mike. In the abscence of an answer is the standard.....Aliens of the Gaps.

What did the Egyptians have to do with the Orion Constellation? And Sirius? What was the connection? Did the 'Gods' come from there?

Think mike, How did any culture travel in the old times, or mark their calenders. Stars. I actually love this Star. It is an amazing prescence in the Sky, Sirius that is. Whilst I agree on the mysteries surounding aspects of astronomical accuracies within structures and monuments, this isn't enough to simply say it must be ET, given how much information has been lost regarding these cultures and how they existed. This Star is the brightest star vsible to us, well except for our own star, being the sun. This Star also has an odd coincidence with our calender, and traditioally New Years eve celebratons are linked to its cycle. Greeks and Egyptians also marked there own calenders with it. Folk lore and myth are inwined with these significant events. All cultures see the night sky Mike. The brightest of them all would surely be noted by cultures. The fact that Sirius has a cycle that fits our earths own 365 day cycle would mark it as significant, don't you think?
Orion is also interesting Mike. It is linked in lore and myth with the Big Dog(Sirius) in both Greek and Egyptian Cultures. But they are different mike, as with other cultures. If all these cultures have been influenced by ET, why is it not clear, the only thing that is clear is that these cultures have noted Stars that appear significant from others in the night sky, have noted the connections to calender cycles in seasons and have woven folk lore, myth and religion into their own cultures inspired by these stars, as there would be no understanding of the universe back in those days obviously abstract explanations such as Gods etc explain the significance of these Stars and why they are important to any culture. We see this with these stars in the cultures you mention. These can be attributed to human behaviours Mike. In fact they are by most, as there is little, if any evidence that supports ET's IMHO.

Facinating Subject and I am very interested in the religious aspects of ET and the way they are now being woven into these cultures and their older myths and folk lores, religious scriptures, doctrines, art works, superstitions and beliefs. Its called updating. Old Gods out, new ET's in. Safe middle ground between their old superstition and our new science and technology.

Cheers.




Cool Image link, BTW. Crystal links has a cool page on art works and UFO etc.
Here is another.
Art and UFO's

[edit on 19-4-2009 by atlasastro]

reply to post by mikesingh

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hi mike,
i will say that the object emerged from the exact centre. there was not any visual activity within the ring (flashing or otherwise other than the object), it remained as dark as the rest of the sky. with regards to pics, if this is an in-situ location to flag i will rig something together and attempt to furnish the site with something. i have perused your other thread some moons ago and looked in that area during winter. my kit is not that powerful but i am saving for better equipment. i of course loved the thread. cheerz.

reply to post by cdi

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Hi cdi! Good! I would love to see some of those pics! I hope it will be soon! Many ATSers have claimed to have seen some strange stuff going on in the night sky. Let's see what turns up!

Cheers!

reply to post by ArMaP

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The Koran is a mistranslation of the Qur'an by Noble Drew Ali. It is used mostly used by fringe groups such as the Nation of Islam and the Moorish Science Temple. Ignorant Westeners have confused the two.

reply to post by mikesingh

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Never thought the Koran believed in ET’s . This makes it interesting that religious writings from different religions all refer to ET’s

There are some fake quran in internet, For online Quran that is real use this :

www.al-islam.org...

I dont remember of Yagog story, i only remember it's said that the world's destruction happens when :

1. The Sun rises from the west and falls to the east.
2. The Sun will only be approx. 1 inch from our head.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Ponyo]

reply to post by Ponyo

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I think it will be a frightening day when the Sun rises in the West. Also I'm sure within myself that that day will come. Hopefully not for awhile. What is this about the Sun being one inch from our heads? If you can please elaborate. Thank you and Peace

Originally posted by ablue07
reply to post by Ponyo

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I think it will be a frightening day when the Sun rises in the West. Also I'm sure within myself that that day will come. Hopefully not for awhile. What is this about the Sun being one inch from our heads? If you can please elaborate. Thank you and Peace

Sorry, i was wrong, it's not 1 inch, but 17-21 inches or 70 cubits.. The sun will be above our head was written in 2 different Hadith as far as i know, the first hadith by Bukhari-Muslim :"Human will sweat on the Day of Resurrection, the heat up-stream to the earth at 70 cubits". And the other's by Imam Muslim himself : The sun will come down toward the people on the day of Qiyama until it is only about a mile up. ".

There are 2 phase of doomsday (Qiyamah/Kiamat) in Islam, the first one's Kiamat Sugro (first phase leading to Kiamat Kubro), the other is Kiamat Kubro (the real destruction).

Conclusion from some Hadith and Quran verses about the signs of Kiamat Sugro
1. Allah send the prophet to earth for humankind, and some people will follow his message while the other dont.
2. "A slave birth his/her employer/master, and you see people who are bare feet, naked, and poor people, herders of animals race each other in high buildings." (Hadith by Imam Muslim)
3. Euphrates River was changed to gold.
4. Baitul Maqdis predominantly Muslims.
5. Many murders occur.
6. The emergence of the Khawarij (?) who will try to attack religions
7. Many protectors who defend zholim/evil deed
8. The war between Jews and Muslims
9. Fitnah/lies/defamation will be dominant in the market
10. Least knowledge, more adultery and drinking khamr/alchohol
11. There will be more females than males
12. Many mosque are built but they built them for pride
13. Widely spread Riba/interest (some kind of increase in the amount of a loan) and haram treasure/money

While the sign of Kiamat Kubro are :
1. Dukhan (?) which will come out and lead to disease that kill many humankind, mostly disbelievers.
2. Something or someone that is called "Dajjal" will spread fitna (lies/scandal) to take people's faith.
3. Some huge talking animal come out of the border in Shafa hill in Mecca.
4. The sun will come out of the sinking, by this time people will realize the truth but it's too late.
5. Jesus/Isa descent to the surface of this earth, support the government of Imam Mahadi (wise leader), break all crosses , and kill the Dajjal.
6. People of Yagog and Magog will come and create havoc in this earth, namely they come out after they have destroyed the wall that was made of iron mixed with copper that has been established by Zul Qarnain together with his followers.
7. Earthquake in the East.
8. Earthquake in the West.
9. Earthquake in the Arabian Peninsula.
10. Big fire that will scare people to the Mahsyar. The fire that began from the country of Yemen.

[edit on 14-7-2009 by Ponyo]

reply to post by Sikmike620

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Sorry I know I should read the whole thread before answering but couldn't help replying to this comment, briefly if I may.

Here is a DIRECT reference to ET in the Quran that hope will shed more light on this thread.

Quran Al-Shawra 42:29:
أعوذ بالله من الشيطٰن الرجيم
بِسْمِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

وَمِنْ ءَايَٰتِهِۦ خَلْقُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَثَّ فِيهِمَا مِن دَآبَّةٍۢ ۚ وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ جَمْعِهِمْ إِذَا يَشَآءُ قَدِيرٌۭ

[Shakir 42:29] And one of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and what He has spread forth in both of them of living beings; and when He pleases He is all-powerful to gather them together.

[Yusufali 42:29] And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the living creatures that He has scattered through them: and He has power to gather them together when He wills.

[Pickthal 42:29] And of His portents is the creation of the heaven and the earth, and of whatever beasts He hath dispersed therein. And He is Able to gather them when He will.

I am sure this verse deserves a thread in its own right.

OK, will continue this facinating thread and then reply God willing as I am an Arab and thanks God have little knoweldge of how to interpret the Quran using the Quran itself not our desires.

Allah knows best and controls all Seen and Unseen in real time.

Ali Adams
God > infinity
www.heliwave.com

quod.lib.umich.edu... here is a concordance of the Koran. I don't have time to research this, however i thought it might be helpful on this topic.
here is a link to how use a concordance. www.iei.uiuc.edu... I am not well versed in this type of subject, I do know that it is used look up a word and how it was contextually referenced. Strong's exhaustive concordance would also be a good for this. Strong's is more in-depth it lists every word in the bible and the context it was used in. Like the ancient aliens aspect very interesting, and Thanks for the post.

reply to post by mikesingh
Do you see where I'm going? Similarly, interpretation is what it's all about. Can anyone claim to have cut the 'code'? I don't think so. Therefore, it's more prudent to have an open mind on the real meanings hidden in many diverse religious texts that have indicated the same modern scientific concepts. Now that's a coincidence if ever there was one! This boils down to corroboration and therefore the possibility of the interpretation mentioned in the OP as true!

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And all thanks to God, I have been shown part of the Code to unlocking some of the hidden secrets in the Quran, and the first such secret is related to 2012 and 31 danager latitudes. Please see Quran and 2012 at www.heliwave.com... for full details.

Ali Adams
God > infinity

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