Originally posted by JasonT
I would just like to say that this is a fantastic thread. If only more religious threads were like this one where discussions are taking place between Atheists, Christians and Muslims in a logical manner - No arguing or any of that stuff, just an intelligent discussion.
Yes good point -there are a great many organised religions out there and tolerance should definitely be a two way street.
Many faiths speculate about time and space -I found these two quotes interesting from Carl Sagan:
A millennium before Europeans were willing to divest themselves of the Biblical idea that the world was a few thousand years old, the Mayans were thinking of millions and the Hindus billions.
Carl Sagan.
The Hindu religion is the only one of the world's great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still.
Carl Sagan
refspace.com...
Carl Sagan was an atheist but its refreshing to see him accrediting some faiths with a viable understanding of the universe.
He did also say this though:
Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition.
Carl Sagan
Think of how many religions attempt to validate themselves with prophecy. Think of how many people rely on these prophecies, however vague, however unfulfilled, to support or prop up their beliefs. Yet has there ever been a religion with the prophetic accuracy and reliability of science? ... No other human institution comes close.
Carl Sagan.
I don't follow organised religion and I suspect some of the replies on this thread have more to do with
(un)conscious speculative misrepresentation of subjective halftruths but you're right that its nice to see civilised discussion.
Cheers.
[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]














