The Koran was "received" orally from "the angel Gabriel" which, in modern terminology would translate to "dictated by an extraterrestrial". It would thus be no surprise if that ET-Dictation were to contain some info on various ET-Civilizations.

Just thought I'd mention that.

Interesting Post

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it would be nice to see some direct quotes from the koran... it may be taken out of context.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
The Koran was "received" orally by "the angel Gabriel" which, in modern terminology would translate to "dictated by an extraterrestrial". It would thus be no surprise if that ET-Dictation were to contain some info on various ET-Civilizations.

Just thought I'd mention that.

Interesting Post

My understanding is that you are well versed in the subject of extraterrestrial influence on religion. No more to say?

I see you read smack9's information and decided it was good enough to make a new thread.

The (electronic) copy of the Quran that I have is in Portuguese, so it's not really an official version (as far as I understand it, only the original is considered the official version, the translations are not considered as being exactly the same), and it does not say exactly the same things as that site.

The biggest difference is in the interpretation; that site talks about a "method of transportation", my copy of the Quran talks about "paths of ascension".

While that site says "Their prophet used a wormhole once in the ‘Israa & Meraaj’", my version says that he was transported from Makka to Jerusalem, but it also says that some experts think that this was about a vision.

So I guess we need someone with a real version of the Quran to clear this case.

Wow. That was a very insightful and scholarly addition to this particular thread. I'm delighted to see tolerance is alive and well and that we're past the childish and moronic practice of stereotyping an entire group of people.
How many Muslims do you know I wonder? Based on that post I'm going to guess between 0 and....no actually we'll just stick with 0. Why don't you do the rest of the world a favour and educate yourself on the people you apparently despise rather than relying on flawed logic and scare tactics perpetuated by your nation's media. Then perhaps once you understand the beliefs of Islam and have met a few Muslims you will be in a position to pass judgement though I would remind you of the danger in judging anybody. (Those in who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones)
Now that I've gotten that out of the way I'm inclined to say that unless speaks Arabic and has a copy of the Qu'ran in its original format this discussion is fruitless because unfortunately translations can't be trusted. Words just don't translate perfectly from one language to another in most cases. That's why you get so many different versions of say, the Bible.

Edit: Clarity

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ehm ehm, moving on......

All religious teachings and documents are open to interpretation as we can see from a certain last post...
(the post I was referring to was removed. edit.)

But its our motivations that seem to influence that interpretation.

Interesting post none the less, The Bhagavad Gita to some interpretations also mentions other planets filled with more spiritually evolved beings.

Please if you have any more information please post. S&F

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Good post, doesn't that sound like the iris from stargate?? just saying.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
My understanding is that you are well versed in the subject of extraterrestrial influence on religion. No more to say?

I have so much to say on it that it would hijack this thread, so lets keep it focussed to the Koran-Wormhole thing...

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Originally posted by Allar
Now that I've gotten that out of the way I'm inclined to say that unless speaks Arabic and has a copy of the Qu'ran in its original format this discussion is fruitless because unfortunately translations can't be trusted.

Yep! That's the problem! Like the Taliban interpret Jihad as the will of God to kill all non believers, the Kafirs. Jihad actually means the fight against the evil within oneself. So which one is correct? You, being a Muslim, should know?

Interpretation! That's the catchword. Who is the authority to claim credit for the actual meaning of what's written in the Koran? Or does one interpret the Koran and Bible and other holy books to suit the occasion? Or suit the whims and fancies of certain vested interests and individuals?

Cheers!

very interesting thread couple of things that might be of interest to everybody, i had many muslim freinds at high school and so i learnt a few things on the way. i remember my freind telling me about many instances in the koran that relate to modern science in some way

the only one i can remember though is the one he told me about the shape of the human ribs/rib and that it spells out an arabic character dont qoute me on it though because the information is/was obvouisly heavily biased

also ar'nt George W Bush and Tony Blair's masonic nicknames supposed to be Gog and Magog? sure i saw that in zietgeist or some other conspiracy DVD