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Is Disney Conspiring to Undermine Easter?

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posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 08:43 PM
To the OP:

Can you tell me the difference between a miracle and magic, because I sure can't.

posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 09:00 PM
reply to post by Missing Blue Sky

Odd? Sure. Disturbing? Not really, maybe to a Christian. I freakin hate Disney I went to Walt Disney Elementary School - had all that crap shoved down my throat. But I don't see that they have an obligation to pander to the portion of their viewing audience that chooses to follow Christianity.

There is definitely something strange about everything Disney, from the old propaganda cartoons, to the hidden messages in their movies.. supposed underground tunnel system under Disneyland? (maybe just an urban legend, growing up in Anaheim I heard rumors of it) I am sure there is more as well.

Maybe they do want to undermine Easter. Maybe the directive came down from the top pagan magician in charge over there.

Maybe they're using reverse psychology to test you Christian's faith. Who knows. Who cares. Turn the channel to some Veggie Tales.

posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 11:19 PM
I don't know... It's just a stab in the dark... but perhaps Disney are playing Witch/Halloween movies to get kids primed for the new Witch Mountain movie?


posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
but the beginning of spring should bring movies like Homeward Bound, HSM, Mary Poppins, Not Halloweentown.

Does anyone else find it odd that Disney is playing Halloween themed movies starting Easter Night and running them all week.

Well if you happen to glance at the movie primed for noon time, Easter Day, it happens to be the movie i've bolded in your statement.

Did you even read your link or look through it? You were real quick to make wild claims, yet you disprove yourself.

I'm interested to hear in your response.

posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 11:48 PM
That would be kinda cool if Disney took over all Holidays. We could eat chocolate Mickey's on Easter and have movies about how Mickey was beaten and crucified. Just think how funny the Passion of the Christ would have been if it was Mickey being whipped and then strung up on a cross.

Cant you just hear Mickey saying in his little mouse voice "Ohhhh nooooo they just put a nail through my paw. Walt, please forgive them for they know not what they do."

On Thanksgiving we could all kill deers named Bambi and serve them up for dinner while we watch the movie. That should toughen our kids up a bit.

The possibilities are endless.

[edit on 10-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 12:06 AM
Some beginners who have just started into studying the World Order question why the Illuminati would use legitimate covers.

Here is a link of Disney's bloodline.

It'a all very decepive.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 01:25 AM
reply to post by ben91069

my sarcastic response is : miracles = "good" , magic = "bad" - right ?

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 01:29 AM
ok - my response to this kind of thread is pretty simple :

get over your insecurities

if the TV schedule can ` undermine ` the perdiod you claim is christianitys ` most holy ` festival

then its on some pretty shakey ground

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 01:40 AM
I star you Missing+Blue+Sky,

I am not too much religious, but I don't know what's up this year.

I live in Montreal suburb, usually in Easter time we have all those classic movies, Ben-Hur, Ten commandments, Quo Vadis, The Tunic, Golghota, etc...

This year, nothing yet.

Disturbing fact. Trash TV is even nastier, more vulgar and dirtier than ever.

State television, more classy, CBC (French) give us a coverage of an Hindu pilgrimage, today. We had to understand how fantastic and wonderfull hindus devotion is.

I don't deny Hinduism their right to worship.

But was it an obligation to put that documentary on Good Friday ?

In the name the name of equality, they put forward separation of church and State.

They left us without anchor since religion was part of history. Street moral from rap and hip hop took over.

They put forward moral relativism; So all beliefs are now equal.

I'm sorry but IMHO, they are not.

A Western world cut from its history, its beliefs, its roots. And we are supposed now to understand each and every beliefs, to accomodate, be tolerant.

Futhermore, we shouldn't be surprised to see sects emerging in each street corners, global moral wreckage all around, BS tv show without any moral or mental reservation, promoting selfishness(20 contestants, 1 prize no holds bared), distorted behaviors (Jackass), vulgarity (south Park) over sexual exposures targeting kids.

Sub-Hominic culture; Tattoos, piercing, scarces, and who knows else, etc...

Almost every kind of sexual behavior welcome.

I guess with HULU, it would be cool, isn't ???

BTW, Did I forget Borat ?????

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:40 AM
reply to post by Wildbob77

You are correct. We will just turn it off. It is spring break and for my kids and we will be too busy to be watching tv. I enjoy Halloween very much, because it reminds us of the fagility of life and how close to death we really are....but I will save it for October. Now, is springtime and we are going to the beach!

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:52 AM
reply to post by ben91069

My understanding of the difference between magic and miracle, was taught to me by my parents and formed by a book I read, "Salvation is From the Jews".

Magic is the power which comes from within, and is the harnessed energy from the spirit world around us. This energy is not from God. This energy is from the fallen who have sepertated themselves from God. Magic is performed for self interest only. It is used to raise up the self.

Miracles (in my world which I know is different from some other peoples) come directly from the Creator of the Universe, I call Him God.
Miracles happen for the greater good only. They are rare and only occur when a person accepts God's will over their own will.

Easter is the day we celebrate Salvation for the whole world, it is God's will fulfilled. So, in my humble opinion, it is not a day I want to think about the selfish occult world, so I will not be watching Disney that night.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:57 AM
Touche...very nice catch. Sorry, for my ignorance of that...I made this claim based on my children running into the kitchen and telling me how weird they thought it was that Disney Channel was playing Halloween movies all Easter week. I looked at the evening lineup up...but missed Homeward Bound. I hope not too many children are stuck inside at noon on Easter Day and have to watch TV. Hopefully they will be with family.

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[edit on 2010/7/24 by GradyPhilpott]

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 10:46 AM
reply to post by stereovoyaged

please don't confuse all christians with catholic and their religion. it is not right to say that all christians bow to the pope! i won't bow to the pope nor any king, nor any president yet how many people bow to the wims of the president or the powers that be who hold trillions of dollars and starve and kill ect. because their government said it was the right thing to do.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Seekerof
reply to post by spines

What's even more funny is when you non-Christians, who bash Christians and Christian holidays, actually observe some of them. Ironic, huh?

[edit on 10-4-2009 by Seekerof]

That's not ironic, at least in the sense I understand irony.

The fact is, here in England, the Easter weekend means a bank holiday on a Good Friday and again on the the Monday following Easter Sunday. Easter Sunday itself tends to mean most places are closed too.

Basically, a lot of the country shuts down whether you observe Easter or not. Similar things happen around Christmas. Whether you're a Christian or not, you don't have much choice other than to make a holiday of the holy day.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 11:19 AM
reply to post by dedalive

if they had tubes underground at disney (you mean in florida or california?) in florida, they'd be water tubes cause about 1 ft down, ya hit water
florida is a sand bar, formed on top of a porous bed of coral rock (called cochina rock) that is full of holes filled with water.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 12:04 PM
Christianity undermined itself from the start since no one apparently bothered to write down any information of the birth or death of Jesus. Doesn't it seem a bit strange that the Son of God was born and died and no one wrote anything about it until decades later? Even the Gospels conflict with each other.

I'll be celebrating Easter, i.e., a pagan fertility celebration, by sacrificing the chocolate Easter Bunny in my pantry with a nice, sharp knife.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 12:11 PM
reply to post by Lookingup

i think josephus makes a few references to it but the new claim is that josephus was just a front man for the papacy anyway or that the papacy altered his writings. you believe that don't you?
isn't it convenient that any possible reference is just tossed out with the claim it is a fake? kinda like the zeitgeist film claiming sun god and son of god were the same thing, totally ignoring the thousands of years of sons of gods in every ancient text on the planet. we get to boil it all down to just jesus being a reference to an egyptian sun god that never existed (which incidentally, sun and son are not even the same hieroglyphs, don't look the same, aren't spelled the same, nor do they sound the same phonetically! believe me, i checked it out for myself). let's not mention the fact that they can't prove horus and osiris never existed either! far as i can tell, the egyptians sure thought they did (and so do i)

[edit on 11-4-2009 by undo]

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 01:17 PM
reply to post by Missing Blue Sky

Where do you get your history?

"Christians invented the scientific method, which we would not have medicine and medical aid without."

Was Hippocrates of Cos a Christian?

"Christians run the majority of homeless shelters in the world."

And to stay you usually have to attend Christian services.

"Christians invented the book and the printing press."

Are you implying that Christianity originated in China with the printing press?

"Christians go all over the world helping people who are suffering."

And as they help the suffering they do what they are really there to do, spread the word of God.

"Christians donate Billions of dollars to aid organizations which aid the suffering people of the world."

Not only Chrisitians provide charity.

"Every Christian wants to be your friend, we are not the enemy."

When I stopped being a Christian, I lost many friends and family.

"Christians built the first hospitals and provided the first charity hospitals."

The earliest known places where a person could seek to be "cured" were in Egypt, BC. The Sinhalese are perhaps responsible for introducing the concept of dedicated hospitals to the world. The first hospital founded in the Americas was the Hospital San Nicolás de Bari and technically by the governement, not by Christians.

"Christians built the first schools."

Sometimes, churches did double as schools in the developing U.S.
Non-Christians build schools all the time and have done so for a very long time.

posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
reply to post by ben91069

Magic is the power which comes from within, and is the harnessed energy from the spirit world around us. This energy is not from God. This energy is from the fallen who have sepertated themselves from God. Magic is performed for self interest only. It is used to raise up the self.

Miracles (in my world which I know is different from some other peoples) come directly from the Creator of the Universe, I call Him God.
Miracles happen for the greater good only. They are rare and only occur when a person accepts God's will over their own will.

I have always found it humorous that people who know nothing of magic claim it is a bad thing. The energy within every person is from the Creator and if you read Jesus words he tells constantly that the kingdom is within. Do you know any people that practice what you call magic?

I do healings with energy and they are generally very successful. I don't use the xian theology but ask for the energy from the Creator to flow through me and help another. Please, if you don't know anything other than what you read from a book about the spiritual practices of another educate yourself first.

I was a practicing xian for many years and have spent the better part of my life studying the Bible so my comments about it come from a place of knowledge not one book or what another has told me.

posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 01:22 PM
Jesus himself said that those who believe will be able to do any of the miracles he did. There are many people out there doing healings in the name of the creator, the one true God-these are miracles. I know magic too. I had a very dear friend who was a Wiccan and she shared many of her beliefs with me. This is not the same as the belief in the creator...she told me of her beliefs in the energy of the world around us and mother earth, etc. That is magic.

I come from a long line of people who knew about magic, my ancestors on my great grandmothers side were witches from Scotland and England. Women in my family have very strong intuition and my daughter can even read my mind frequently. But I am a Christian. The magic I speak of in this post is the conjuring of spirits, casting spells and telling the future. The power comes from somewhere and no one should carelessly play with the power of this universe. This same daughter who can read my mind was miraculously cured through a Eucharistic Miracle. I wa sthe one who prayed for the miracle and I could say...I healed her, but I did not...God Did. Those of us who facilitate healings are mere intercessors, God is the one who can do miracles.

So I am not just someone who is basing all my beliefs on one book...I was referring the book"Salvation is from the Jews" as a wonderful source for anyone who wants to explore the difference between miracles and magic. It leads to a judgement...i choose to judge the magic and coming from evil energy and believe the miracle comes from holy energy. But we can be deceived by miracles too, so must always be testing for the truth.

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