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reply posted on 8-8-2009 @ 11:35 PM by intelgurl
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There are actually several unacknowledged UAV systems flying now as anyone from the Indian Springs/Tonopah areas of Nevada could probably attest
to.
Being discussed in this thread are 2 seperate UAV systems:
1. the PoleCat look-alike
2. the Dark Star on steroids look-alike
As it turns out Washington insiders have confirmed the presense a tail-less Polecat-like stealthy looking turbojet powered UAV spotted rolling into
the the General Atomics hangar at Kandahar Air Force Base. This would make sense since General Atomics and Lockheed have an established working
relationship where UAV's are concerned.
If I had to guess I would not be crediting missile strikes against Taliban targets inside Pak to Predator/Reapers loaded with Hellfire ordinance.
This would be a job for something with a reduced radar signature and the ability to act autonomously should the control signal be lost in the
mountains.
The poster who said "Desert Prowler" was right in my opinion.
Sources: AWST Aug 3 2009, "Washington Outlook", pp 21
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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 06:41 AM by firepilot
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So who put that graphic together? There is a bit of a problem with it 
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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 06:55 AM by intelgurl
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Originally posted by firepilot
So who put that graphic together? There is a bit of a problem with it
That would be me - putting together what i know along with a fairly good yet inaccurate pic of a Lockheed UAV...
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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 07:45 AM by firepilot
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I was thinking that pic was a model of Northrop-Grumman "Sensorcraft", not a Lockheed product..
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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 07:47 AM by intelgurl
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How about this graphic?
It is an artists' rendering of what witnesses saw -
And strangely enough i got the "sensorcraft" image off a page discussing Lockheed uav's... (heavy sigh)
But yeah, it is the Northrop Grumman "sensorcraft"... LOL - Good catch!
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reply posted on 9-8-2009 @ 02:58 PM by firepilot
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I think I saw the same page with the UAVs, and I got confused too because immediately under the NG Sensorcraft pic was mention of LockMart UAV
programs.
I sent a link to that article regarding the Kandahar UAV sighting to a friend of mine who is in USAF in a job position that highly involves UAV ops.
His reply was something along the lines of "Of course I cant talk about that". If he had known nothing, he would have just probably said so.
Will be interesting to see when this comes out of the black, or even if it was involved in more of the Pakistan ops, which has been my suspicion.
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reply posted on 11-8-2009 @ 01:51 PM by satcom
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reply to post by intelgurl
IntelGurl
You are close but the relationship with GA is moot, I posted a while back what the system is and although the graphics you presented could be close,
I'm just not sure. Here is what I speculated a few months back about Lockheed's UAV.
The UAV in question is from Lockheed Martin. It is called the Desert Prowler, which by the way you can see the patches for it from Trevor Paglins
book. I guess I'm not sure why all the speculation when all the evidence has been laid out already by AVweek and Bill Sweetman. Lockheed developed
the UAV from the failed Darkstar. Not to be confused with the Polecat-175 which was built and tested for a different mission if you will, although you
could call it an improved and enlarged version of the UAV in question. Northrop does not have anything like that ready. It's more of a stealthy
Predator if you will from Lockheed, and yes it does deliver weapons albeit the small kind like what the Reaper carries, only it was built with
limited/basic stealth in mind. I believe this was already discussed a few threads ago. BTW all of this info is freely available through Google if
you know how to weed through all the search results concerning aviation topics such as this. One more thing, I assume this project is going "Grey"
and when it is formally released, it will make the Predator a little obsolete based on press reports of what it can do. Being an almost ten year old
system costs have probably come down for Lockheed and if it goes grey/white subsequent orders will make it even cheaper than the predator C. I'm
even willing to go out on a limb and say quite a few of the so called Predator Hellfire strikes, were probably a cover story for strikes from
Lockheeds UAV.
Basically this system is a predator sized UAV with Stealth characteristics, used for clandestine penetration. At best, quite possibly used for
limited strikes. I am curious where you obtained that info. I wonder if it's the same thing I read on the internet. 
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reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 08:56 PM by TAGBOARD
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Anyone consider these operations may also be contracted by the agency to Xe?
www.nytimes.com...
There may be other reasons to support the idea.
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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 02:07 AM by itsalex
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Originally posted by firepilot
I sent a link to that article regarding the Kandahar UAV sighting to a friend of mine who is in USAF in a job position that highly involves UAV ops.
His reply was something along the lines of "Of course I cant talk about that". If he had known nothing, he would have just probably said so.
Uh no, he told you exactly what he was supposed to. If you asked him about Yeti sightings in Afghanistan, he would have told you the exact same
thing. I honestly hope you can figure out why. I'll even give you a hint: it's not because he knows something related to your question.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 07:33 AM by intelgurl
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Originally posted by satcom
reply to post by intelgurl
IntelGurl
You are close but the relationship with GA is moot, I posted a while back what the system is and although the graphics you presented could be close,
I'm just not sure. Here is what I speculated a few months back about Lockheed's UAV.
Lockheed and General Atomics are currently enjoying a symbiotic relationship on a couple of projects.
Strangely enough Lockheed and GA are joined at the hips on the Predator C Avenger project even though Lockheed has a competitor for that project.
In this case, LM is supplying the sensor suite.
Natalie~
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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 06:01 PM by Shadowhawk
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According to Air Force sources, the mystery UAV that has been seen in Afghanistan was declassified several weeks ago. Perhaps we will learn more
details soon. As far as I know, there has been no formal public announcement yet.
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