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Why Would The Elite Do This??

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posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:50 PM
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After doing a ton of research as well as reading lots of the threads on here, I want to ask you all a question.

"If" (I believe they exist, but let's say IF) portals, reptilians, 2012, aliens, ufos, planet x, annunaki, etc. are all "fake" and a bunch of "B.S.", then WHY are the "Elite" (Bilderberger, Illuminati, Knights of the Old Templar, etc) worshiping a DIFFERENT God, DIFFERENT religion, and a DIFFERENT philosophy (secret societies)??

Do you think that they are stupid? Or are worshiping idols and false beliefs?

IF they are SO powerful that they've managed to put all of their own people in the TOP positions in this world, then WHY are they worshiping stuff that us, average people, call B.S. and fake?

The Bohemian Grove, the worship of the sun, worship of the owl, etc. what are they for?

I think that something (different entity definitely) exists, and the people at the top KNOW of its existence. After all they have TOTAL control of all the communications, satellites, spy programs, etc. in this world. They KNOW of many things that they would NEVER tell the general public.

Maybe 2012 IS the year where the "DEVIL" (Annunaki, Alien Gods, etc.) returns to earth, and they want to be at the TOP of the food chain when the "Gods" take command?

So my question is then, WHY would they be worshiping another God and "waiting" for a time to place this NWO (if that's the "main" agenda, and I don't think that it is) into place to secure their positions??

Secure their positions for what? Power??

It CAN'T be power because they already have it. It CAN'T be money because they own all of it. So there's something out there NOT being told.

What's your take on this?

[edit on 9-4-2009 by bobbylove321]

[edit on 9-4-2009 by bobbylove321]




posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 01:17 AM
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There 12 dimensions of creation. Perhaps the "DEVIL" has shown them the way to another dimension which they are promised if they do as the "DEVIL" commands?



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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I'm not sure about the other gods that they are said to worship. But perhaps they have a greater plan for humanity that if shown, would result in great opposition. What is the plan? That is the question. A lot of people say population reduction and a lot of bad things, but what if things were actually better with their plan in action. I find it interesting to entertain the idea that perhaps this increasing need for power by individuals and groups isn't just for their own self-interest as basically everyone thinks. Maybe that's what is being hidden, that they aren't doing it entirely for self-interest.


It CAN'T be power because they already have it. It CAN'T be money because they own all of it. So there's something out there NOT being told.


Let's say they are enlightened with some sort of knowledge the general public doesn't know about. They have power, they have money, but what they don't have is other peoples' persuasion. Perhaps this knowledge is trying to be given out to the world, but they aren't ready for it. Hence the lag that is seen. But in the mean time, they gather power.


I think that something (different entity definitely) exists, and the people at the top KNOW of its existence.


Sort of like I was saying, maybe it's not a different entity, but just a different knowledge. Of course, a different knowledge could very well change a person's view so as to experience an outward force differently. But what really changes, is it the person's perception or the god, entity, whatever that is outside.

[edit on 10-4-2009 by ghaleon12]

[edit on 10-4-2009 by ghaleon12]



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321
After doing a ton of research as well as reading lots of the threads on here, I want to ask you all a question.

"If" (I believe they exist, but let's say IF) portals, reptilians, 2012, aliens, ufos, planet x, annunaki, etc. are all "fake" and a bunch of "B.S.", then WHY are the "Elite" (Bilderberger, Illuminati, Knights of the Old Templar, etc) worshiping a DIFFERENT God, DIFFERENT religion, and a DIFFERENT philosophy (secret societies)??

Do you think that they are stupid? Or are worshiping idols and false beliefs?

IF they are SO powerful that they've managed to put all of their own people in the TOP positions in this world, then WHY are they worshiping stuff that us, average people, call B.S. and fake?

The Bohemian Grove, the worship of the sun, worship of the owl, etc. what are they for?

I think that something (different entity definitely) exists, and the people at the top KNOW of its existence. After all they have TOTAL control of all the communications, satellites, spy programs, etc. in this world. They KNOW of many things that they would NEVER tell the general public.

Maybe 2012 IS the year where the "DEVIL" (Annunaki, Alien Gods, etc.) returns to earth, and they want to be at the TOP of the food chain when the "Gods" take command?

So my question is then, WHY would they be worshiping another God and "waiting" for a time to place this NWO (if that's the "main" agenda, and I don't think that it is) into place to secure their positions??

Secure their positions for what? Power??

It CAN'T be power because they already have it. It CAN'T be money because they own all of it. So there's something out there NOT being told.

What's your take on this?

[edit on 9-4-2009 by bobbylove321]

[edit on 9-4-2009 by bobbylove321]


Satan's whole purpose is to gather followers and turn them away from god.

Look around you, observe the world outside.

Lucifer attempted to overthrow god and become ruler which failed.

He will attempt it again and fail but he wants as many followers as possible at his side. The war is not just against people.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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They give men false religions to ensure their compliance, because the religious "leaders" use emotional, rather than merely intellectual, appeals. Look at anti-atheism vids on YouTube. They make little to no sense, and do nothing to really convince agnostics or atheists to convert to any religion. As a matter of fact, they may actually turn ignorant people off from god altogether.

The education system is so difficult because its merely a big compliance test. Those who do the best usually display strong loyalty to authority figures in general. They also project their own desire to rebel onto those who appear to actually do so, calling them out as "traitors," "weaklings" or undeserving of respect.

The authorities label those who display lack of loyalty as the enemy, and the subjects execute commands to eradicate.

They don't worship the owl; it merely represents sacrifice and blood letting, among other things

A few of the other posters mentioning Satan. In that regard I'd like to say this: one characteristic of evil is that it never follows through with what it promises. It's not that evil abandons its plans, it's just nothing ever goes as planned.


[edit on 10-4-2009 by vcwxvwligen]



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 07:12 AM
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The elite do what they do because that is how they are programmed by us

Their quest for power is their own trap created by this program

The elites agenda has the pathology of addiction.

They seek control like an alcoholic seeks liquor. Just because they are already drunk(powerful) does not satisfy their urge for more liquor(control)

That is the self imposed prison for the elite they can never be satisfied

Our collective consciousness has created the elite bloodlines out of our egos because that is part of being human.

The ego based mind is polarized into equal dualities of good and bad.

The elite will always have power in this world, but they cannot have total control because of the nature of polarity(balance).

We all (elite included) have the choice of ignoring what the 5 sense ego mind based 3D world brings us.

We can chose instead to each follow our own intuition which cannot be controlled by entities in the ego based world



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Errrrr, I think you're looking to deeply into the situation.

You have a chess board, that chessboard is planet earth. There's no time limit on making your decisions, you make the moves to do what you want to benefit yourself and the general agenda, meanwhiles, the person playing the other side of the board, isn't even aware that you're playing chess with them, and even if they we're they couldn't move a piece without being demolished.

But there is a fundamental flaw with their agenda, it's been repeated throughout history, and history tells us that it never has succeeded.

However, in history they didn't have chemical warfare, or nuclear bombs, let alone air craft and satellites, internet and RFID chips.


So this is going to be the most destructive 5 years ahead of us, ever seen on the face of the planet.

Their god is as significant as any god, there is no man sitting down in a chair that controls everything, if they really are dealing with entities, those entities are entities, they don't control what we do, they can only influence.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by NWRHINO
The elite do what they do because that is how they are programmed by us

Their quest for power is their own trap created by this program

The elites agenda has the pathology of addiction.

They seek control like an alcoholic seeks liquor. Just because they are already drunk(powerful) does not satisfy their urge for more liquor(control)

That is the self imposed prison for the elite they can never be satisfied

Our collective consciousness has created the elite bloodlines out of our egos because that is part of being human.

The ego based mind is polarized into equal dualities of good and bad.

The elite will always have power in this world, but they cannot have total control because of the nature of polarity(balance).

We all (elite included) have the choice of ignoring what the 5 sense ego mind based 3D world brings us.

We can chose instead to each follow our own intuition which cannot be controlled by entities in the ego based world


Is power the goal for the NWO or is it the means to achieve something else? It's impossible to "ignore" the 5 senses, if you were you'd have zero sensation. What if they felt like they knew how to defeat human egoism, and no one else did? Part of goal for the NWO sounds like will be global government, global economic system (communism), and a global religion.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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My question is WHY are they doing that though? Why instill a world government and all for what? Or more importantly, for whom?

It's not like they don't control the world already. It sounds like they are doing it for a different "entity" or "entities".



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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Well I know the owl represents the all seeing eye, owls see the dark, all seeing, and this is what it represents.

What they are doing?

ruling, maybe mirroing what they see in the universe, triangle, pyramids, god at the top of the universe, and then the most intelligant advanced beings throoughout the universe and beyond next, then the less civilised and less intelligent at the bottom.

humans dont have much history compared to the age of the universe so guess that makes us at the bottom of the pyramid.

thats just 1 possibilty though.

I have plenty of other theorys, proving themand having evidence is something else completly.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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I just supplied a link that represents that owl and its place in society as, all seeing, all powerful. top of the chain so to speak.

and the buliding itself is a centre of business in this town i live near by that looks like an owl from a certain perspective of view.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by ghaleon12

It's impossible to "ignore" the 5 senses, if you were you'd have zero sensation.

Exactly ! then you would have to rely on your intuition



What if they felt like they knew how to defeat human egoism, and no one else did?

Then they would have no need for power or control paradigms




posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 04:30 AM
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It seems to me that they are worshiping in fact some "real" and "living" entity or else it all seems like a big joke. The fact that they want to take over the world and everything, yet they worship the sun, owls, etc.

It seems a bit "fishy" to me that they are just doing it for fun.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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I think the real problem is that the "elite" are just as much a myth as your Annunaki. Sure, some people have more money than others, and some have more temporal power, but none are privy to a secret metaphysical truth unknown to the rest of the world.

There is no global, organized NWO, no higher order to the chaos and strife of our world; there is only boundless human stupidity. We design our cultures and our economies around mitigating this fact, but the systems we create are no smarter than their creators. All it takes is a lone clever asshole with a strong desire to get ahead in the world, and these systems, meant to create justice, become instruments of oppression or manipulation. It isn't a conspiracy, and there's no underlying mystical revelation. We're just dumb.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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My view which, may not be as popular as others, are that the NWO Illuminati are those who denounce God and follow the other guy. They are doing all they can to set up the coming of the Anti Christ the false prophets and all that. Have know proof just my thought.

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posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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You've clearly never heard of kings, emperors, and CEOs

You've also never heard of GE, Viacom or Clear Channel



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 03:53 PM
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its pretty simple problem....
as time goes along their are more people to feed, find jobs for etc.... the crux of the problem is computers .... computers eliminate huge swarfs of jobs that can be done by a machine better and faster... so as time goes along with technology you need less and less people to keep the boat afloat.... now every time we cross one of these lines we get more and more unemployed because the job has been replaced with a machine. yet these people need food, shelter and work to keep their ecomony functioning. when the economy doesnt function correctly -- action must be taken to fix the issue... War use to be the mechanism to reduce population. and some have said the black plauge was a Black Op to reduce population back in the dark ages... and then again in 1918 Flu Pandemic is also suspected of a major population reduction black op.
anyway - if you have been following your rights, you lost the right to work. and you are no longer an employee but a Human Resource... so you have been downgraded in a sense... So, I fear this is just another Setup to reduce Human Resources. and well, I see no flaw in their plans so far... it will reduce Human Resources... as long as none of mine are in this equation.... that is...



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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I enjoy OP's take on the situation.

Pieces of the puzzle are still missing, on purpose, so that we have reasonable doubt and can logically deduce this to hypothesis and conspiracy theory.

S&F from me



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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I don't think the elite believe in any of that and I don't belive they're a cult.

I think all of the rituals and symbols are nothing more than more of a distraction for us folk not in on the shadow government and I think they use these societies to draw attention and gain fresh blood. The people at the very top of the conspiracy pyramid know it is BS and use it just like how organized religion uses it's followers.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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It CAN'T be power because they already have it.\


I disagree, it doesn't matter if they have power now. They're completely outnumbered by billions of people. If they were ever exposed they would be obliterated. They need to enact more control so they can control the population. That's what all this environmental stuff is leading to, we're being led to demonize ourselves for our "carbon foot print" so we'll eventually give into population control.



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