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Obama Seeks $83.4 Billion in Special War Money

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posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by SIEGE
reply to post by deltaboy
 


Change IS here, like it or not. Something good is always worth waiting
for. Things are being taken care of. Slowly, and diplomatically.
Not instantly, not chaotically, not without reason.



This is funny, tell this to My Jobs Layoff's that is being done tommorrow morning as another act of "Reorginization" of one part of the company.. And have a meeting for another area later in the day, but that won't be put in untill about 2 weeks..

It has to happen, Hours are being cut further below minimum, we need to make budget hands down, Sales a steadildy declineing while Product comeing in is raiseing on cost. This will take place on all areas in the district over a span of a month ..

Out of dealing with Small business, manufacturers and distributers .. they all have one thing in common and that is declineing sales.. some have been hit much harder then others, but its the same. Only upside is.. this is newly started small business's comeing in.. though they have the initial funding, its hardly worth the risk.

But no worries.. amazingly somehow, with out any type of reform plan from our congress, other then bailout BS.. This is supposed to actually Physically Turn around... Would be nice to "See" it for once.




posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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ON my back yet to simplify things the truth will reveal itself, hell just look at this thread. I do not believe we as humans are capable of massing together in a large sum of people, rooting for and giving support for things that need to get done, at all. Their will always be a ego away from perfection. Damaged we are greedy we have become, and where their is hope their is always doom.. Doom seems to be the article of choice nowadays yet holding the idea of prosperity the foreshadow is usually taller, yet the existence is usually smaller... Lets let the truth reveal itself in these coming days and years. Brothers and sisters I see ya... Ya look great...


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[edit on 10-4-2009 by Adrifter]



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Adrifter

Originally posted by deltaboy
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I guess most Americans are primitive in electing him because hes indeed black.



that would be irrational... That would not make us primitive, yet it would enforce a dialect of reasoning reinforced by the concept of evolution, yet no matter how far behind we leave many, we must continue to progress... A stature is demanded by the World, a progression composed by a disregard to the utmost consciousness is demanded by ourselves and our derividens we are neither procastic in this influence nor are we conscious of such deviance yet we remain as a whole progressing towards a pillar that is something we feel unreachable yet when itis within our grasp even then will we let it go.. Until we can look ahead, we will always look for ways to fail, and blame the other.. It is conscious and influential in all we do, form lovers relationships to even mediocre friendships it is a human trait we cannot shake nor disenfranchise from.. We are what we are, our greatness will lie in our history as it has since pre-history, just wait for the pages to turn, it is this struggle that makes us who we are and who we are not... Our failure in the end will be within ourselves, with this I will make my absence.. Sad indeed, peridical greatness at a whole derivident yet hope we have, and have always, yet blinding the truth of who we are my friends... Yes I made up some of my own words...

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lol...



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Adrifter
reply to post by SIEGE
 


ON my back yet to simplify things the truth will reveal itself, hell just look at this thread. I do not believe we as humans are capable of massing together in a large sum of people, rooting for and giving support for things that need to get done, at all. Their will always be a ego away from perfection. Damaged we are greedy we have become, and where their is hope their is always doom.. Doom seems to be the article of choice nowadays yet holding the idea of prosperity the foreshadow is usually taller, yet the existence is usually smaller... Lets let the truth reveal itself in these coming days and years. Brothers and sisters I see ya... Ya look great...


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[edit on 10-4-2009 by Adrifter]


what? must you always talk in those flowery riddles? if you have a message to say there's nothing less productive than dressing it in such a flowery and poetic style that the meaining is hard to work out- which can accidentally make it look (i'm sure it's not the case) that you have no message at all and are trying to sound profound

i think you're mentioning something about how people are looking at the negative side as opposed to the positive sides of things these days. if that's what you're getting at i generally agree with you, however it's sometimes only through seeing the bad for what it us which stops us being misguided by blind optimism. equally people should not be blinded by irrationally high negativity, because as is almost always the case, the answers are usually somewhere in the middle.

i think some people are too quick to join bandwagons whether good or bad. as illegal and unjustified as iraq was, i don't think you can expect troops withdrawn instantly. i mean if you withdraw them too soon and iraq crumbles back into a mess because of it, you essentially made the deaths of all those troops who were stabilising the country meaningless. that is something i find extremely sad. the war may have been illegal, but most of the troops have been fighting for the iraqi's future regardless of what those in charge were after. it is also true though that we can't stay there forever and *as far as i can tell* iraq must be very close to being ready to stand by itself now.

@ whoever said the racist stuff about obama, you remind me why children shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.

@whoever said that obama is leading america towards communism (or words to that effect) i say only in america could the usa's current situation be talked of as nearing communism. it's remarkable how a couple of relatively socialist policies can scare americans so much. like having a real health system. god knows how terrible that would be, especially for all those without proper healthcare who must suffer. and the state putting money into industries which will go bust if they are left to freemarket capitalism- leaving you with higher unemployment and a worse economy which would make you all complain even more. this of course already in america where you have had socialist principles embedded in your society already, such as free education provided by the state, libraries etc. the sooner people stop using socialism and communism as a buzz word the sooner americans will notice that as well as already embracing many socialist principles as part of the core of their entire country, they also tend to stand for things such as looking after your own people and stopping them from being exploited- and what could be more fitting in a time when free market capitalism has royally fu**** the world up...
forgive me for my tangents people, i'm just sick and tired of seeing people link basic, socialist principles with evil dictatorships such as the ussr. they aren't even close to being same thing.

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posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Adrifter
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the 3rd party will be no different then the other two.. When it ends is when, Something Washington said almost a eon ago.. When the party's realize they are obsolete.... And the people are the future. Yet it will take great strife for this to appendage its way forward.


The people have always been the future, but the people still need leadership. A country without leadership is a country in anarchy and you know as well as I do that's not what Washington had in mind.



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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The future is all we have to dream in...


That is no riddle...

Forgive me for my virtue, That we do not understand we undermine, and press upon. Yet the truth sounds like such a thing..

Just my opinion. On a lighter note who is gonna buy me the first drink?


PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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Could you please enlighten me as to exactly what "attitude" i have ?

Yes there is truth to it, and that's why you're not inclined to discuss it.

I Don't listen to any talk radio. As i previously stated my opinions are based on what i've researched, go ahead look up his voting record from when he was representing Illinois. Look up his ties to Rezko who he admits raised large sums of money for his campaings (some of it through kickbacks and coersion) over three campaigns close to $250,000 according to Obama. Look at thier shady real estate deal together. Explain how Obama came out of nowhere and just happened to win the Illinois senate seat in the district where Rezko had 11 of his 30 low-income housing projects. And how Obama while state senator in a district where his friend (Rezko) was a slumlord was recieving money from the government for these low income buildings that were in utter disrepair, but yet Obama conviently doesn't remember any of the tenants complaining about the conditions of those buildings.

Excuse me but how exactly do people "whining" about paying taxes prove that Americans living in tents are being taken care of ? Also if these people were being "taken care of" they wouldn't be living in tents now would they ?

Would you care to give me a link to this glorious website that Obama has created to show me how many of our tax dollars are being spent on Americans living in tents ?

I'm not sure (they may have changed the rules) but i believe that if a person does not have an address they can not recieve government benefits, kinda hard to have an address when you live in a tent don't ya think ?



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece
What is this "special war money?" How does it differ from "regular war money?"

I could've sworn I heard promises of "Change We Can Believe In" a few months ago. It sounds more like 1965 Vietnam.


The "special war money" covers the expenses brought about by special circumstances and the change in terms of military engagement, such as the Navy getting ready to fight Somali pirates over the next decade. The Army asked for more to fight poorly armed civilian resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan.



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