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The RFID Chips Are Convenient

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posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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That will be the hardest thing to fight. So many people who are asleep to the dangers of RFID chips will be fooled into taking them because... well... there cool! doesn't that just suck?

I can imagine all the add-on's our favorite gadgets and conveniences will have that interact with the Chips.

Cars: now automatically unlock doors and start the engine on detection of your chip (within a certain distance of course)

House's: Now unlock the front door as you approach on foot, or open the garage door if your in your car and turn on entry lights for your safe and easy access... (remember if someone’s chip isn't programmed for your house it wont open, no exterior lock to pick, how safe and convenient!!!!)

Televisions: now turn on upon your entrance of the room, and tune to your favorite pre-programmed channel.

I-Pod's and other portable devices: Lock and will only power on upon detection of authorized RFID chips (eliminating the possibility of theft)

Credit Access: Cards/Cash would be eliminated, no more chance of losing or having your money stolen, its all in your secure database, accessible only to your RFID chip, (and Uncle Sam of course
) and best of all next time you go to the grocery store, no need to fumble threw your purse or wallet for that card or cash, just give the little display showing your total the old Jedi thought persuasion hand gesture and your good to go, HOW CONVENIENT!

Computers: Will always know who is operating them, no matter where there at, home, library, laptop, cybercafé, a log of your time spent, sites viewed and actions taken could be completely traced and electronically sent (via the computer) to the governments data base on you (since there 100% sure its you using the computer its valuable data) this would also eliminate domestic homeland cyber threats, hackers, and child porn viewers! I feel safer already!

Nightclubs,/Bars: would no longer have to worry about carding, or serving underage young adults (this would apply to cigarette and alcohol distributors as well). Not only that but there would be a log of everyone there, how much each person consumed, etc. If your busted by police for anything (jaywalking) after leaving the bar , all this information can and will be used against you in the court of law. that sure will help the judicial system eh?

Hospitals: Instantly have access to your medical history, personal info file, criminal record (you could be drug abuser, they need to know what’s in yaw), and all contacts, this allows everyone on your emergency contact list to be immediately notified of your situation if they weren't already, and provides all the critical information the doctors need to treat you the best they can, including all your insurance information. The RFID, working at its best to save your life.

The examples seem endless, I've only named a few off the top of my head.

I personally think all these super neat-o conveniences is what will fool most Americans into being chipped; can't you see the youth showing off all the cool little features they've programmed into there trinkets? all made possible because of these "awesome" chips.

The Moms: brag to there friends and co workers about how there family, house, and future, are safe now thanks to the chips.

The Dads: no longer worry over there identity being stolen, there credit abused or retirement fund stolen the chips made them all safe and secure!

Because of all this I feel 100% sure they (the chips) will be pleasantly ushered in, warmly welcomed, and out right demanded by most.










[edit on 9-4-2009 by dkman222]




posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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I will gladly allow them to chip me...

in my cold, dead hand.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
I will gladly allow them to chip me...

in my cold, dead hand.



I 2nd that, however you and I (as most ATS members) are awake, and way less vulnerable to this plot. (en-till they make it illegal to avoid being chipped that is)



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Point Blank:

The single most important reason that you will be "chipped" sooner or later is MONEY!

It is a Government / Tax cash cow and that is the single most important reason that it will happen.

Not a single dollar can be spent without taxation.

You cannot "loan money" to anyone without a "fee"

You cannot "buy" anything without a "tax"

Each and every dollar spent will be accounted for and taxed appropriately. Want to buy something from a friend... tax... want to buy something from a rummage sale... tax

So many cash transactions are taken for granted... all the will see are the Billions in revenue by getting rid of the "cash" loophole. Companies will PAY the government for the "marketing statistics" "marketing lists of buyers" etc.

Everything you buy will be precisely tracked and that information is worth a fortune to "Marketing" and the Govt will sell it.

So, Billions in taxes & money transfer fees, Billions in "selling" data

Need I say more.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Depending where they place this chip, I foresee some people losing limbs to a theif.. Either way, these chips are not in our lifetime. Perhaps in the future they will have a good reason for them, but there will definitely be a lot of opposition and if it ever became a reality, it would have to be forced onto the masses.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by infolurker

Need I say more.


nope! you nailed it! nice post.

2nd line



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
I will gladly allow them to chip me...

in my cold, dead hand.




Well put.

You're right though, the bottom line will be convenience and for ignorant, obese, americans, that's just what the doctor ordered.

In BC they just came out with "enhanced" drivers licenses, which I believe feature a form of RFID chip, the big slogan for it is, "You only need 1 card to cross the border"... yup... thats it... aint that just amazingly convenient? Don't you want one already? The reason why I believe they have the chip is cause in one of the 'ads' for the thing, they say that your information is known before you get to the checkpoint itself, moving you right a long quickly.

RFID Chips are THE biggest threat to freedom, once they are mandatory, we're all #ed. It's impossible to beat.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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They are in US passports now and I always feel like my passport is spying on me.
I'm always conscious of where it is in the house...cost me about $100. for that privilege too so I'm not likely to try to take the chip out and have to pay for another one.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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I don't believe they will ever get rid of cold hard cash. Bribes, after all, require cash. As do all the black market vices that our elected leaders like to partake in. Do you think that the politicians will give up bribes just to have a chip? Give up prostitutes, drugs, gambling? Never. It's why they become politicians in the first place.

Don't underestimate the power of the undeclared, untaxed dollar.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
I don't believe they will ever get rid of cold hard cash. Bribes, after all, require cash. As do all the black market vices that our elected leaders like to partake in. Do you think that the politicians will give up bribes just to have a chip? Give up prostitutes, drugs, gambling? Never. It's why they become politicians in the first place.

Don't underestimate the power of the undeclared, untaxed dollar.



don't underestimate the power of lawyers and bankers. The elite/politicians don't keep there bribes in a treasure box barred in there back yard, there in bank accounts earning interest, and thanks to all the procedures they themselves have put in place. its all legal or untraceable


however the normal person like you or I would be screwed, you couldn't by anything, even lemonade from a little girl, without the government knowing and charging a transaction fee or tax for doing so.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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As a supporter of the transhumanist movement, I have no qualms with merging with technology.

Enjoy your neo-amish communes as you're slowly phased out of a progressing society.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
I don't believe they will ever get rid of cold hard cash. Bribes, after all, require cash. As do all the black market vices that our elected leaders like to partake in. Do you think that the politicians will give up bribes just to have a chip? Give up prostitutes, drugs, gambling? Never. It's why they become politicians in the first place.

Don't underestimate the power of the undeclared, untaxed dollar.




Thats a good point, and it almost gives me hope. Bribes don't have to come in cash though, a lot of bribes are never in cash but rather valuables. And things like gambling could definitely be converted.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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I see society drones everywhere. In fact comicly thinking, i wouldnt put it past zealots to make a robot humanoid and just register them and send them out to be the "first" to get them to lead the cattle maybe?..

hey sorry i just gave them an idea..

but anyway..

please..if you read my little blurb and your a shopping addict, or need a "external" good to satisfy you other than normal food intake and work stuff, then you are sadly going to be suckered by a sense of capitalistic duty, which you have been slowly conditioned to by status, time, and comfort, to receive a cancer causing in lab rats, microchip. Yes it will be a convenient fun ipod experience, i personaly would rather have a computer grafted to my eye and head like this one guy i saw on a pbs documentary once sarcasticly speaking.

please people just use reason and reasonability against these smooth worded opportunist mongers. Its a mentaly unstable world around us thanks to artificial and self induced fear all based in a hole in our vision of the future. And the separations are needed sadly due to time not agreeing with itself and ..living together. America is a to me a beacon, despite its oppressive and confused populace, which I wonder if they are all clones of real people who were eaten by lizard people from mylar 4?

Seriously again. Just be smart, and find yourself before a dishonest "capitalist" gets you marked for lunch by an octopus thats worshipped by men painted green.

btw im for "Honest and Fair" capitalism..

[edit on 9-4-2009 by mastermind77]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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Oh really? Not in our lifetime? If that's not just wishful thinking then I assume you've never heard of this company

I think its safe to assume these things are already mass-produced and awaiting implementation. All they need is an excuse, a reason to mandate them.

It won't take long....

[edit on 9-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by mostlyspoons
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Oh really? Not in our lifetime? If that's not just wishful thinking then I assume you've never heard of this company

I think its safe to assume these things are already mass-produced and awaiting implementation. All they need is an excuse, a reason to mandate them.

It won't take long....

[edit on 9-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]



wow that site is creepy with the old woman's fake smile and all. thanks for contributing to the thread!

[edit on 9-4-2009 by dkman222]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by mostlyspoons
reply to post by nightrun
 


Oh really? Not in our lifetime? If that's not just wishful thinking then I assume you've never heard of this company

I think its safe to assume these things are already mass-produced and awaiting implementation. All they need is an excuse, a reason to mandate them.

It won't take long....

[edit on 9-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]


Yes I heard of the company. Even saw the ad and was in the thread where we all laughed at how she said she had people lining up to get one. It's such a joke at the moment, I know these chips exist but you, me and a lot of other people oppose it so strongly there's just no way they would get those chips into us while we are conscious.
I'm quite sure they already have some of this chips functionality in cellphones.

If you wonder why I don't worry, it's because I live on this small green island out in the ocean where we have a little less to worry about. I just don't see the chip happening on a mass scale. But hey, my opinion. I could be horribly wrong.

[edit on 9/4/2009 by nightrun]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
I don't believe they will ever get rid of cold hard cash. Bribes, after all, require cash. As do all the black market vices that our elected leaders like to partake in. Do you think that the politicians will give up bribes just to have a chip? Give up prostitutes, drugs, gambling? Never. It's why they become politicians in the first place.

Don't underestimate the power of the undeclared, untaxed dollar.



Hmmmm... Maybe for prostitutes... LOL

But the "bribes" are already "above the table" in the form of "election donations" sweetheart "job" deals after office, sweetheart job deals for family members, the "lecture" circuit, "consulting", etc.

Prostitutes are about the only thing I can think of.... "kick-backs", "favors", "donations", and "extra-money jobs" like consulting, lectures, libraries, etc. cover the rest.

CAN THE PROSTITUTES ALONE SAVE US?? LOL



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by king9072
Thats a good point, and it almost gives me hope. Bribes don't have to come in cash though, a lot of bribes are never in cash but rather valuables. And things like gambling could definitely be converted.


I would say most bribes still consist of envelopes and suitcases of cash, and only the legal forms of gambling could be implemented with the 'chip' system, not the myriad forms of illegal gambling.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:26 PM
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Oh they can chip me...when they find me in 71 acres of mountain woodlands
Great thing, all over my bugout area, there are hot springs...the whole area shines like 90 some degrees on infra red...Damn Geordi Laforge couldn't find my ass out there



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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I don't want to appear as one of the 'bad guys', but I have currently being given a project of getting quotes in order to implement RFID tags into the products of a friend's company.

I am against invasion of privacy and anything to do which impinges negatively on civil liberties, but it might be of interest to you that many of you are possibly wearing RFID chips unwittingly. I can name at least two very very well known companies which implement the chips already into their clothing. I'm talking into, not on - so, the actual hangtag label at the top of the neck is RFID'd, or, it can be put inside the hem, sleeve etc. This was told to me direct from the manufacturer in China as a 'sales' spiel..i.e., "our products are so good, these two world-wide companies are using them". I will refrain from naming the companies as I do not want to start anything or be liable for a lawsuit.

But before anyone gets slightly spooked, the range of RFID tags currently on the market generally have a readability between 30cm and up to 6 metres. That is the type the two companies I mention use. Yes, there may be slightly more powerful ones, but they would be very expensive, and not really serve a corporate purpose, nor have I come across anyone who manufactures them. Bare in mind, in order for the RFID tags to be read as such, you need to walk past a scanner/reader. These are relatively expensive and impractical to put all over the place. They use HF or UHF frequency, UHF being more powerful - but again, the UHF chips available are typically up to 6 meter range readibility, being the more powerful ones.

Having said that, the information that goes on the RFID tags I am talking about is purely things, for example in the case of the clothing companies I mentioned, size, date of production, model number, date of purchase etc. They are primarily for inventory control, not to track anyone. There is nothing to link the 'wearer' of such a tag to an individual, as no personal information is fed on to the tag itself at point of sale.

RFID and chips in credit cards, ID cards (such as the ones every citizen in Hong Kong must carry around) are another matter, but again...while no doubt there may be technology that can read a tag from a greater distance, the ones available on the open market available to corporate customers are limited in range.

Just putting another view onto it, that's all...but in no way am I making excuses for this increasing trend of RFID implementation. I am involved not out of choice, as if I didn't need the money to clothe and feed myself, I wouldn't be involved. On the plus side, I am learning direct information from all the major manufacturers of RFID themselves, and learning about their capabilities - so if I come across something which is clearly immoral or wrong I will have a more rounded understanding, I hope.

You may flame me now.
But I am only trying to impart the info I know to help, that's all.



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