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Originally posted by Nohup
The number one reason you shouldn't believe in "God" is still because the word and the concept have no clear meaning. Nobody can even define it. How can you be expected to believe in something no one can even define or understand?
That would be like asking you to believe in... Do you believe in...
[edit on 9-4-2009 by Nohup]
Originally posted by MatrixProphet
We believe in evolution and yet cannot accept the premise of; "survival of the fittest." All happenstance can fall into this category of; the strongest shall survive. Perhaps this is the intent of the Gods? They need not intervene in this evolutionary plan. Let man take his course, and maybe some will 'KNOW."
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Originally posted by AlexG141989
Do I think A God Can Exist? – Yes of course I do, completely abandoning the idea wouldn’t be very smart on my part.
You are an Agnostic not an Atheist if that is the answer you are searching for?
Atheism is a religion. It is a belief that no God exists and there is not a Creator. When a person claims that it is the same as claiming to have all knowledge of everything in the Universe(s). Since no person can possibly know that, an Atheist belief is based on Faith that there is no God or Creator.
Many Agnostics identify themselves as Atheist's but when asked if they can prove their is no God or Creator they say no. If asked if they have all knowledge, they say no. That means they are in fact basing their Atheism on faith. Hence, Atheism is a religion.
It reminds of Liberals who call themselves Liberal when in fact they are not. If you want to force others to believe as you believe, you can not be Liberal. It is just a strange play of words.
85% or more of us believe in a Creator. Very few who do ever do anything wrong to others or do anything to hurt them. Yet they are persecuted by people who blame them for the acts of a few who were never people of Faith in the first place. Blaming an entire class of people for the actions of a tiny number of people who falsely claim to be one of them is dishonest to say the least.
I think in many cases the radical Atheists were abused by somebody who falsely claimed to be a Christian and for some reason they assume real Christians are like the person who abused them.
This country was in fact founded on principals that came from the Judeo-Christian Faiths. To say otherwise means you need to study history. Read the words and writings of the Founders. They had no intention of eliminating Religion in fact they risked their own lives so they could practice their own faith without persecution.
The Constitution says the Government may not interfere with Religion or force people to belong to a particular State Sponsored Church. For some reason some Atheists like to lie about that when it suits there cause. What they are really saying is they want to control me and force their beliefs on me which is what our Founders risked their lives to escape.
They want people who believe Abortion is Murder to say go ahead and kill your children its just alright with us.
Why don''t we do what our Founders intended and let each other live our own lives and not dictate to one another. I won't try and force you to adopt my beliefs and you do the same. I don't hate you because you don't believe and I think the world would be better if you did not ha
te me for my beliefs.
No real Christian has ever harmed another in the practice of their Faith. Real Christians are in fact just as angry at the phony Christians as you are. You need to separate these phonies in your thinking. We are hurt just as badly and maybe even worse than you are by these fakes.
Well, let's look at the definition of Christian, shall we? "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus" (from American Heritage Dictionary) Of course, definitions aren't always right, but everyone who claims to be a Christian and isn't lying about it adheres to this definition. Notice it says "or", not and.
Survival of the fittest does not aptly describe evolution, Darwin didn't come up with that phrase, I believe it was a reported remarking on Darwin's Book. It has been replaced since then by another, far better summation. "Survival of the most adaptable."
Originally posted by AlexG141989
1.) In all the time man has existed on this blue planet -which can be compared to an astronomical blink of an eye- man has created thousands of Gods.
2.) Humanity seems to have a fascination with Gods and placing them as substitute explanations for that which we have no scientific answer.
3.) Someone somewhere likes to attribute rare events to intervention by his or her respective God.
4.) Freewill and omniscience – It has long been believed by Christians that free will was a gift from God. Freewill is our ability to do as we choose, and omniscience is a deity’s ability to know all: past, present, and future. But how can I have the freewill to choose a course of action, when said course of action was long ago predicted by the omniscient being?
5.) This isn’t really a reason why I don’t believe in God, it’s more of an irritant. There is a reason why belief in God, Gods and religion is called a faith. That reason is that such beliefs are not proven fact. So it boggles my mind when I see, or read of religious apologists arguing in favor of God’s existence
Why would such an advanced being choose such a primitive people to relay his message to? Why would he allow his words to be skewed, mistranslated and used as justifications for murder and violence?
7.) The God of the bible displays childish human characteristics such as jealously and anger
but yet everybody tells me that God is well beyond the realm of human understanding.
8.) Idiots – Religion has certainly given birth to some of the biggest idiots in the history of humankind.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Man has created thousands of names, thousands of analogies, thousands of images and ideas. But they are very often not as different as they are alike, especially in the most famous cases, serving as examples and pointing towards the same ideas which are ultimately deeply-rooted archetypes of the human mind and are self-empowering.
Moreso in centuries past, but today man blindly uses the material sciences as so much of a crutch
That science, or theology, or any other name for a field of study, cannot provide all the "meaningful answers" to the questions man asks,
So do you, though you are obviously blind to realize it.
are metaphors for exactly the same thing, being symbols for logic and wisdom in general, though they are much more creative, colorful, and richer in meaning than scientific formulas printed in arbitrary English letters, by arbitrary English rules of grammar, in an extremely dry book of mechanical rules.
Time is not invariable according to conventional science. Sometimes it is assumed not to exist at all, or is irrelevant. On top of that, it also has its own geometry and shape to it, such that time in our solar system and time in another solar system theoretically do not match (relativity, gravity, etc.).
In fact, unless quantum indeterminism is replaced, modern science supports my position.
It boggles my mind how dependent weak minds have become upon solid yes/no, right/wrong dichotomies, that they become irritable simply entertaining unknown possibilities, especially in the face of the undeniable fact that we are still lacking in knowledge in all fields of study. We aren't even close to knowing everything there is to know. And in your daily life you must assume hundreds of things are true without objective and rigorous proof, for example moral ideas.
If that confuses you then you are still getting tripped up in the semantics. Violent people will always be violent, selfish people will always exist, so will egotistical people and ignorant people. Everything exists, and the universe would not be a complete expression if that weren't true.
Maybe that doesn't make sense to you, but I bet neither does the pyramid with the all-seeing eye on the back of a dollar bill, yet it made it there because SOMEONE understands, too.
That just goes back to you picking and choosing the meanings of the symbols you attack, and the symbols you identify with. Both concepts of god exist. Why invest so much time arguing about the stupider concept, with stupider people, when you have the "higher" symbol to work with and build yourself personally?