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reply posted on 9-4-2009 @ 02:31 PM by Zaphod58
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Uhm......why?

I know of AT LEAST 3 privately owned MiGs in US hands, as well as a group of pilots that fly Russian built trainers as a demonstration team.

Today, there are several MiGs in the USA that are privately owned and flown. One of these is the ‘Red Bull’ MiG-17, owned and flown by Bill Reesman at airshows across the nation. Seeing this agile and nimble ex-military fighter perform aerial displays at airshows is always a thrill, and according to Bill (and others who have flown the MiG-17), the MiG-17 is itself a joy to fly, with very few if any of the inherently unforgiving flight characteristics possessed by the original MiG-15 design (it took a skillful pilot to exploit the MiG-15’s full potential safely, as there were a few nasty little surprises awaiting the unskilled at the edges of the MiG-15’s performance envelope). In the course of restoration by American warbird owners, several of these now privatelyh owned MiGs have been found to have dents in their ejection-seat armor plates--evidence that they had stopped significant enemy fire at some point in their service lives!

www.authorsden.com...


reply posted on 9-4-2009 @ 03:29 PM by Zaphod58
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The US Air Force came into several MiG-29s and SU-27s(I think) among others. The rumor I heard is that they got them from Germany after the cold war ended.



reply posted on 9-4-2009 @ 07:40 PM by punkinworks
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It's not THAT hard to do. There are a bunch of MiGs flying around the US in private hands.


One time when I was camping on the east slope of the sierra,
we were startled by the roar of a jet engine and looked up the canyon to see a MIG-15 chasing an F-86 down the canyon at tree top level.
they were only 150-200' above us as they passed over.

It was quite the sight.

There's an airport in the northern san joaquin valley that has several migs parked on the tarmac


reply posted on 10-4-2009 @ 12:08 AM by on_yur_6
Originally posted by Zaphod58
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post by USamf



The Concorde at 50,000 feet could cause damage on the ground under the right conditions. The SR-71 at 80,000 feet had a pressure wave of about .9 at ground level. Anything over 1.0 could cause minor damage, and damage hearing.


Not true, our aircraft would break the sound barrier right over the aircraft carrier. Absolutely nothing wrong with my hearing. But it did scare the SH*T out of some Indian Naval officers on board watching the display.


reply posted on 10-4-2009 @ 12:28 AM by USamf
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Well, they probably barely went over Mach 1. I would think that as the speed gets faster maybe there are multiple booms? I am uneducated on this subject, so I may be full of it.


reply posted on 10-4-2009 @ 07:58 AM by Zaphod58
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I was wrong on the numbers.

1.5-2 pounds will cause reaction. 2-5 pounds will cause damage to structures and hearing.

SR-71, Mach 3 at 80,000 feet: 0.9 pounds.
Concorde, Mach 2 at 52,000 feet: 1.94 pounds.
F-104, Mach 1.93 at 48,000 feet: 0.8 pounds.
Space Shuttle, Mach 1.5 at 60,000 feet: 1.25 pounds.

An F-14 or F-18 would probably come in somewhere between 0.8 and just over 1 because of their shape and size.

www.nasa.gov...


reply posted on 10-4-2009 @ 10:32 PM by USamf
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As always zaphoid...you amaze me with your information. Are you in the Airforce or just a plane buff?


reply posted on 10-4-2009 @ 10:36 PM by Zaphod58
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I spent many many years working around Air Force planes. Never in, but I grew up on flightlines around planes.


reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 08:18 PM by Zaphod58
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Erm.....I'm gonna go with no. Even if you could, it wouldn't fly. Most of the Blackbirds had their wings cut to transport, and once their cut, you can't fix them again.

The only member of the Blackbird family to carry weapons was the YF-12, which was an interceptor based on the A-12 Oxcart. It carried Falcon missiles in recessed bays under the fuselag.e


reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 09:16 PM by Zaphod58
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Seriously doubtful. It's in operation in many countries right now. Most MiG or fighter aircraft aren't sold to civilians until years after they're out of service. I know where you can pick up an SU-25 though. They also have several F-5s and A-4s for sale too.

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