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posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 12:53 PM

off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


Mod note: If you believe a post violates the terms & conditions, ALERT the post or submit a complaint. Otherwise, please stay on topic. -- Majic

[edit on 4/9/2009 by Majic]

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 12:57 PM
Stop ignoring the message they're trying to convey to you regardless of religion. Of course this is a conspiracy forum so if you feel there is a conspiracy in a religion you're welcome to refute it by any means that you wish. However on the contrary, one simply tries to convey their beliefs because their beliefs encourage sharing the idea of a Creator and the bearer of our sins Jesus Christ. He foretold of many things including the re-birth of Israel. Is it wrong to relate prophecy to current events, as most of them relate to a global meltdown? I personally feel the Bible is attacked because of its morality, but we all have a free will and can choose to do whatever. You can simply choose not to listen to them.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 12:58 PM
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

You seem to be very comfortable being a slave and you are upset because your slave like environment is crumbling all around you. What im trying to say is that our whole system was designed to enslave human kind. We where all enslaved to our 9 to 5 jobs, enslaved to paying our bills, enslaved to debit and taxes and enslaved to what a few old rich men think should or should not be acceptable in our society.

We all lived in a very evil and corrupt slave like system and all of this is crashing down like the Berlin Wall and its wonderful. This means that we all have a great opportunity to turn this around and build and create a bright and wonderful future that we want to create.

Ask yourself, how can the human race be enslaved so easily over and over again throughout our history?


You openly announce under your title that you are a slave to Yahweh and Christ. This is what religion teaches us is how to be a slave, tells us how to live and and limits your knowledge, power and potential as a human being as well as a spiritual being.

Do you honestly think that Jesus original intent was to have you be his slave?

Or do you think that Jesus intended for you to look into yourself and harness the power within you to help you grow in life?

The evil controllers of this world have a new plan of enslavement and control of your body mind and soul. You have a choice now, do you want to follow that path or do you want to create a wonderful future that we can all be truly free in?

The choice is up to you my friend.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 01:06 PM
The ILLUMINATI control everything and manipulate history. the Bible says so. Not in the plain text but it's there. Trust me. Bible Codes are far more complex than the mainstream media ever let out. There just has to be debate otherwise it would be useless to refute. God gave us free will and we can choose to refute His existence. He did that so that men may find God. THEY DID NOT CONCEIVE OR INVENT RELIGION. They themselves worship Satan and think they have been Illuminated. Satan is the arch deceiver. Even if you don't believe, the Bible can be a fairly good source of just plain old morals America lacks these days. Most of them are too caught up in celebrities on TV to be aware that the government is not what it seems.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:03 PM
I have been telling many friends and family members about what is going on and they just dont listen. They think it will just get better and what they dont realize it's just getting worse. I was discussing the economy and many other issues in the world today with a co-worker, probably the only person I know who understands, and she completely agrees with me. I have been trying to get my boyfriend to understand but he just wont hear of it. He thinks I am crazy for even believing this or reading this site but you know what, I have learned a lot on here from many different people. I want to be prepared!

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:27 PM
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

After reading your post and all the links Im glad my parents never forced religion on me as a child. I remember the last time I went to Sunday school my folks literally had to drag me there kicking and screaming. After that day they realised Hey, if my kid is crying then there must be something off here.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Vyrtigo
Obama is the best president we've had in centuries.


So you will surrender your right to choose whether or not you should do Mandatory Service under the control of the Corporation?

You want to be part of Obama's youth, which is similar to the youth movements in Communist and Socialist nations?

This youth program will be militaristic, and Obama himself said it will be as powerful as the Armed Forces, as well trained, and as well founded.

You will allow yourself, and your children, or little brothers and sisters being indoctrinated by the Corporation in school, and college? Because now and thanks to Obama and his administration the Corporation has control not only of voluntary, and mandatory Community service, but all learn-based programs aimed to brainwashed children and people like yourself to accept the party line no matter what.

You also accept what Obama said that "we need a new Declaration of Independence"?

Every promise that president Obama made he has borkne, except the fact that he, and Emmanuel Rham stated that every American, even disabled and retired, will have to do some form of MANDATORY service.

Greatest president?... I doubt it. In fact this is the most anti-Republic president the United States has ever had.

Oh, and who is to forget, Emmanuel Rahm, and Hillary Clinton among others have stated that they can't let any good crisis go to waste, and they can do things now that never would ahve been possible... i guess you think this is good heh?

Or even the comment that Hillary made that "no Human right is more important than any made up crisis" by TPTB....

Why is he "the greatest president" according to you?....

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:49 PM
reply to post by pluckynoonez

NO yahweh is purported by the jewish torah faith among others to be the true name of the creator we refer to as god, and that black guy is another of the fasle profits to expose themselves in the last stage before tribulation, and he goes by the prophet yahweh, wich is in it's self is blaspemouse if yahweh really is our creators name. Who can say

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:51 PM
The "ONLY" thing that I like about the OP is the hope that is portrayed through this persons religious beliefs. I am somewhat tired of doom and gloom but the truth is not something that is always wonderful and warm and fuzzy.

I believe in God but not organized religion.

Your god will not save you. The only one to save you, is you.
Justify your religious beliefs however you feel necessary to give yourself the comfort of denial.

What you state as the "Truth" is only the "Truth" for you and no one else, therefore giving you no divine purpose to enlighten others and furthermore completely making your prophecy/warning false concerning the religious aspect of it.

The whole problem with religion is people continue to try to sway others towards thinking the same way. Divide and convert. Religion almost seems like the NWO's brainwashing tactics on a smaller level in that, when one person thinks they have the answer they do their damndest to convince or convert others. Respect that every man's journey is his own.

You have the right to speak your mind and opinion but you are in the midst of many intelligent people. Don't expect everyone to take your prophecy as truth as there are many people that have stopped spoon feeding their self the lie of religion and have come to deal with the harsh realities of "Truth".

Many will see through it. Perhaps someday you will be one of those. I am one of those.

[edit on 9-4-2009 by N3krostatic]

[edit on 9-4-2009 by N3krostatic]

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:55 PM
The fact that religion is tied into your ideas deteriorates my interest, and also takes away it's legitimacy.

If god were a real being why would he contribute to the fall of the world? Would he not make it better? Sorry but your post seems to hint that god is tied in with the corruption of the world lol, that's a stretch dont you think?

And who cares about whether obama or mccain was the best choice? Do you really think it matters? Neither care about YOU or ME, they are just puppets, no matter what happens under Obama, the same would have happened under Mccain eventually, so stop arguing over that lol, its just a joke.

[edit on 9-4-2009 by Chosen_Breed]

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:59 PM
reply to post by Cloudsinthesky

Not that it IS, but it is often debated as such. I personally think it partially is.

My point being is that poster mentions just about every conspiracy discussed and it was worked into the post.

I was half joking btw.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:09 PM

Originally posted by randomiser
Well, if Christ is your salvation, good for you.

Is that what all that was about?

Man, it pays to read the next post in a thread before meandering all over the OP sometimes.


godbothereres... boring.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

I'm sorry, but I bow to no God who demands my servitude. I am not a slave.

One Quoteworthy post if ever I saw one.

Brilliantly put, star for that!

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:21 PM
I'm not sure here what the point is. We are heading toward a terrible time and the christian god will save us by:

- Persecuting homosexuals

- Not wearing condoms to prevent the spread of AIDS

- Excommunicating the family of a nine year old girl, who became pregnant after being raped by her stepfather for three years

Instead of placing your faith in god, instead put your faith in a decent rifle, storable foods and community action.

[edit on 4/9/2009 by mithrawept]

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:21 PM

Originally posted by stander
Rockpuck, I beg you to cast away any heathen belief you hold and to turn yourself at the mercy of Our Lord.

And you guys wonder why you wear loon hats in public.

Just wow.

We've not come so far as to walk on the moon, as yet we still walk in the garden of eden.

Blessed relief, visit me soon...

[edit on 4/9/2009 by bloodcircle]

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:22 PM

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Bombeni

I would like to add that it is not just the people in the Mansions and the Yachts that voted for him. He could have never won with just their vote. Its the average person, who now has a world view that it is the governments job to solve their life problems that creates this mess. These are the same people that vote for Congress people like Pelosi who just hand out money with no idea about how they are going to pay for the debt they create. Its very dangerous, because you have a populace that wants things handed to them and politicians who will hand anyone anything if they get one more vote. Its like the politicians have an American Express card, but instead of them getting the bill at the end of the month they just forward it to our address. In other words, they are the pimps and we are the ho's

[edit on 9-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

I totally agree, it's the Average Joe that actually elected Obama, but it is the crafty, power-hungry elite in mansions and yachts that singled Obama out to be elected Prez and carry out this New World Order plan. If the evidence were a snake it would bite us. Think about it: a US Prez with skin color that makes him acceptable to anyone across the globe, AND a middle name and paternal links to muslims, w/ muslims being the New World Order's biggest obstacle! Seriously, even a blankety-blank-blank (avoiding having my post deleted by mods, lol) should have had him pegged day one. When I saw these crowds falling all over themselves to be near him I just want to gag. He has no real power, no real anything, he's just a puppet chosen by the Machine; really in a way he may be more a victim than the rest of us. One day he was minding his own business, smoking a rock and having sex with a crack ho and the next thing you know someone he probably never even heard of approached him to run for President. Only in America.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:28 PM

Originally posted by maus80
reply to post by stander

Stander, I think you sound a little obsessed, that's not healthy.
Stander, you should consider not starting every sentence of your religious blabber with the same word/name, makes you seem a bit out of it.
Stander, imposing your religion on others is rude and obnoxious.

Does another

make it two lines?
Don't wanna cop a smack but you just made me spill my drink.

Goodness a good laugh cant be punished but I'll cop it if the pointy hats deem it..

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:31 PM
reply to post by bloodcircle

...Except stander has the last laugh. You clearly missed the irony dripping all over his post.

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:52 PM
I all hear is "Gloom, doom gloom gloomily gloomdoom, etc..."

I think it's rather amusing that people assume this is a 'bad situation.' Throughout human history, there has been tragedies, economic downfalls, depressions, and government control far, FAR beyond anything we've ever encountered. Yet people only see in the now, and proclaim that it's so terrible, that it's all coming to a cataclysmic end. This is NOTHING. People have no concept of reality in this pampered, freedom-laden country. When people cry about police going into a home to check for underage drinking and break up a party, they act as if some barbarian mongols tore into the house and lopped off the heads of all the woman and children.

We are even light-ages from how bad folks had it in the great depression.

And economic events have no association with earthquakes, sorry. And the amusement never stops... I love how self-important the U.S. has become, so that some feel anything that occurs to them, encompasses worldwide and indeed, a heavenly span. U.S. has economic problems? Clearly, the world is coming to an end. O brother....

posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 04:02 PM

Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
"But thats the wrong God"...went the line in the movie Starship Troopers 3. A guy was "obviously" under the mind control of a large, alien insect and thought it was God. So that quote is what the woman yelled at him.

Stupid, funny movie...but a good point. Just because "you" don't believe in a God (by whatever name) doesn't mean there isn't one (or many).

Nor does it mean there are no furry ant demons living 1000 miles under the earth. All hail Mr Ant.

God is what culture makes that which it cannot ascertain. Sun, Moon, ghost, alien or supernatural. Why do crops fail, the god is angry. Lets kill a virgin. Wow, the crops are great, therefore god likes virgins.

As long as he reasons things unreasonable. He is the hologram that makes you go WOW!

Sane cripples have crutches.. the rest prefer a bible.

And if you strip out the religion in the original post, it holds a lot of truths and more importantly...the state of mind (or emotion) rising in this country.

We are in a sad, sad state today (blame whomever you wish), but there it is. If there is a God, then this would be a very good time to receive a visit.

Indeed. Good question. Or has it been asked before?!

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