Vatican City gives 'Harry Potter' two thumbs up, page 1

Don't get me wrong, Truth, I'm applauding your efforts here and you do have a good basis to go off of. My problems arrise when you put loose Bible hear-say into pure fact. I know that you will want to argue that the Bible is completely true, but I tend to disagree for several reasons. The only one I will mention is the fact that the original texts for the Bible were not written for hundreds of years after Christ died. At that time, there was no Christian church, nor were there high quality writers to set Jesus' teachings in stone.

If you want the closes known teachings of Jesus, then here is the Gospel Of Thomas.

The current Pope and Catholic Church denies these teachings, but I want you to judge for yourself.

"God founded one true church of salvation with the sacraments of perfection through christ."

God did not found a church, that was man's doing. Christ did not found a church, that was man's doing again, hundreds of years later.

"is kissing the koran and acts of christ which blasphemes christ?"

Was the sign "I hate Jesus" stamped on the book? The Koran is not a terrible book and a "kiss" is a sign of respect, not a sign of divinely inspired writing. The Pope was merely showing the Islamic Faith that he respects where they are, as do I. Would you rather he throw the book down and spit on it, starting a war that you would be drafted for and would be forced to KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL in the name of "peace." I reiterated that for a reason. That word strikes up emotion and you have to use those emotions to tell yourself what peace is worth. Also, the Koran does speak of the same supreme being (God/Allah) as the head of their faith. The Pope merely believes that the Muslims are on the right track in finding the wonders of Christ, Heaven, and Happiness. So I ask you Truth, do you kiss the book or spit on it? And are you willing to handle the consequences? It is your life after all.

"is praying for the coming of the messiah aan act of christ?"

Who wouldn't want Jesus to come back and reign peace forever? Have you not read your own Bible? What do you think happens when Christ finally returns? It may be an odd prayer request, but it is by no means a point of heresay... that I know of... I could be wrong.

"which means he rejects christ as the messiah."

Since when? That is just a falicy and there is no reason for either one of us to debate this one.

Why did god let him live?

to fullfill prophecy.

"" One of its heads was mortally wounded, but this wound was healed, fasinated the whole
world followed after the beast ""

"" he had power to blaspheme god and his tabernacle ""

chapter 13 of apoc.

I'm extremely impressed with this one. This is a great claim and it does seem to "PERHAPS" have validity. Of course, there are a number of other people who could still qualify for this prophecy, not to mention scores of people to come. The shot probably would have been a mortal wound had he not gone to the hospital. This is all still hardly enough evidence in itself to convict this Pope of being an antichrist. It is grounds for speculation, I do agree.

"he has not converted anybody, but proclaims all religions as true."

This is very non-specific and we all know that the Pope finds the Catholic church to be the superior faith, without a doubt. He probably should have, or might have said that all religions have good intentions in mind (almost all of them, anyway).

"Dont sit here and tell me hes doing the will of christ when thats all hes done his whole journey as pope is blaspheme christ."

He has probably brought people to Christ that would have never given Christ a second thought if not for his righteous actions. This may seem like a bold statement that you have made, but it is more of an opinion as I see it.

what has happened since hes been in office?

1. abortion has risen.

2. technology increases for the worse.

3. the internet was born which causes masive sin.

4. tv and music have become drastically worse in sin.

has he really converted the world?

More good points that I will not deny. I will say, even with these claims, it is not like evil prung up overnight. Evil has always been here, you just probably weren't so aware of it when you were younger. In addition, the world has been going through boughts of Chaos for centuries, even back in the days of Christ, and we are still here and we are not at the breaking point for Armageddon. If you think we are, someone needs to take you to a drill seargant and have him pound some fear into ya

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"do you know about the novus ordo mass which he promotes which goes against, the council
of florence, the canon of the mass, pope pius V, the council of trent."

No I don't. Enlighten me. I do remember hearing of some of those things in my old European History class.

"he tells caholics to not hold on to tradition."

Thank God!

Tradition should die off, just like people, over time. New possibilities are often stifled by "traditions." I don't want an argument on this because I've seen some of the worst forms of tradition manifest itself in evil you probably can't imagine.

"he promote other false religiions."

Probably, but then he becomes more popular and his cause gets a promo. That is a bad way to look at it, but he is into politics as a Pope... goes with the territory.

"hes (supposed) to be the vicar of christ."

I don't know what a vicar is. Sounds like a fun game!

LET'S ALL PLAY VICAR!

"It only sounds good to those who are not catholic, what hes doing."

Uh, I was somewhat Catholic. I was baptised Catholic and went to a Catholic church for a long time. Don't I have some room to talk?

"promote falsehood in the name of peace."

You or him?

"peace."

Exactly my point.