ABC Special to Dismiss Idea of Using Guns for Self Defense?

Originally posted by A NeWorlDisorder

And thats all I have to say about it.

That woman in the video is right. Politicians think they have the power to take away from us our right to own firearms.

I feel for her loss, and can't even imagine how I would feel if what she went through happened to me with my family.

The Second Ammendment does not allow for ANY firearm to be banned, and all these guns bills that target law abidding citizens are UnConstitutional.

I saw previews for this ABC Mockumentary. These people don't know what else to do.

Kids are curious about EVERYTHING. If you leave your kids unnatended, they could get into your kitchen and drink some, or a lot of bleach from your kitchen, or any of the other products that could kill a child.

Do you see any politician or news media trying to ban these products? No, because it is stupid to ban anything that COULD kill a child when left unnatended.

This woman, the ABC, and the rest of the gun grabbing people and politicians out there are nothing more than hypocrits.

I used to attend neighborhood watch meetings in Miami Florida, in which those of us who were part of it would meet with cops, and other reps to talk about problems in our neighborhood, for the most part it was constructive.

Anyway, I left Florida and moved up north but I still receive emails from the neighborhood watch about issues down there, and more so since I still have family down there.

About three weeks ago I got an email from one of the neighbrohoodwatch reps claiming, and giving advertisement to pass legislation to ban law abiding citizens from buying assault weapons, and the excuse, which is the same excuse the present administration is giving, is that the Mexican drug cartels have FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS because Law abiding citizens in the Republic of the United States can buy, own and use SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPONS....

Well, I sent a response back to her, and I explained to her the differences between FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, and SEMI AUTOMATIC WEAPONS...

But then after I sent the email which was a bit long, and I went into detail about our history, and the Second Ammendment, I realized that this woman, like the other anti-gun brainwashed people out there, don't care about facts.

They want to ban ALL law abiding citizens from owning, and bearing ANY, and ALL firearms. These people will use, any, and every excuse they can find trying to pass legislation and laws to restrict our Second Ammendment right, no matter what the facts say.

That is the main goal of these people, and if we are not careful we are going to find ourselves in the same situation the British have been, and that is crimes with firearms has almost doubled, and crime in general has increased since the ban on all weapons in Britain.

We cannot allow these brainwahsed, UnConstitutional, gun grabbing aholes ban our Second Ammendment, or put more restrictive laws on firearms, WHICH IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



[edit on 9-4-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

reply to post by The Oracle


The Oracle,

This is very very naive. It is however textbook politics and of public education standards which is also paid for by the body politic. Are you getting the connection??

Chances are it was committed with a stolen weapon. The less guns around the less gun crimes

While this kind of quote I have posted of yours above makes good initial sense and rationale...to those who can think outside the box...it doesn't make good nonsense...which is what a lot of the body politic does now days if you can once again ..think outside the box.

What your statement does not do is speak of less crime..period. It makes the numbers look good in gun crime..but not crime. Crime includes murder, rape, theft, kidnapping and all kinds of nefarious conduct. Your statement is one of the body politic who's main occupation is making the poll numbers come out correctly...which could also mean all kinds of poor unlawful immoral conduct being supported by law and government as long as the gun crime numbers go down. Any thinking moral person can see past that one. But not the body politic who's main intent is poll numbers used or misused to get elected and re elected.

People take real risks with their lives and safety in their occupations. Real risks to earn their properties. What you and others do ..especially the body politic is carte blanche ...state that these people have little right to enforce protecting themselves and their families in their homes ..nor their properties..against crime of any kind...but must be subject to the whims of the body politic in order to make the gun crime numbers come out correctly.
This does "nothing" to protect people nor their private property. Private property so often earned and purchased at great risk to themselves in their occupations.
What it does is make citizens themselves .."Disposable and expendable" second class peoples along with their private propertys, for the whims of government. A government who is also financing public education to promote more of this feel good stupidity.

This is the same or similar tack the old Soviet Union used to use in declaring how much milk was produced that year..but no one could get it.
It was simply not available. In other words ..politics.

It eventually destroys the security and fabric of a people and nation while subsidizing those in the populace of the Lowest common denominator. Those with a propensity towards criminal/immoral activity. This includes the body politic.
This clearly means that our own government has become themselves...criminal. For they are fostering criminal activity in order to get re elected and have the poll numbers come out right. But the reality is something quite different.

This is evident in areas of England, Australia, and New Zealand. Also in nations in Africa. Places in Europe are the same.

This poor politics does nothing about crime...period...

This technique..Oracle..is textbook bait and switch. in other words it is textbook politics. Also known as "Whoredom." The bartering, selling, trading of peoples souls for power...under the guise of a false sense of security.

What is clear in nations where this trend has taken place is that anyone's life, property, and risks are safe except yours if you decide to defend the same. This is why it doe not make good nonsense to those of us who can think outside the box.

All this cheap politics will do is protect those of dubious character...criminals and politicians...while making the rest of us take more risks, over and over, to re earn the property stolen from us the last time.

One has to go to school and be educated to get this stupid. People left to their own devices are not this stupid. But that is precisely what government tries to do...stupid us down to tolerate what does not make good nonsense...such that they can get elected and re elected.

That article you quote...it looks good and intelligent initially..but then look at the title.

"Less guns mean fewer gun homicides"

Once again...it says nothing about crimes...or even homicides by other than guns. It is textbook number crunching and furthermore..the author states in the article that the numbers are difficult to digest.

It just looks good to those who can only see the title. Makes good rationale sense..until you learn to look past the nonsense.

This does nothing about crime across the board. It will only shift the crime in favor of criminals and the body politic. It will not help the ordinary citizen going about their business and earning their properties. It will do nothing for them.

The shift..the placebo arguments so often prevalent in boards like this is that gun crime is mentioned in lieu of crime of all types. This is a false and misleading argument point on the part of the anti gun peoples. It is a three card monte shuffle...the pea is not under any of the shells.

But it makes good whoredom..ie..politics.

Thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom




I am adding this to the bottom of my post earlier today as a way of putting more emphasis on the concept of private property.

Private property is important to Americans as the very basis of good government and life principles. The ability to own and obtain private property by a process called labor.

Implicit in this in court case after court case from the begining of this country to now..is the ability to protect private properties. Thus protecting our ability to labor not in vain.

Remove the private property and or the ability to protect the same..and you have remove the Republic gauranteed by the Constitution of the United States. Our country was formed on the right to Persuit of Happiness...meaning the right to own/acquire property...which includes your person..private...not public. To be safe in your homes/properties.

Remove the ability to do this and you have chaos...no private property. You now remove the principle of being an American.

Wealth redistribution is removal of private property...since your property is now subject to the whims of government and is not private nor property.
Our arms as well as our persons are private property. We are not subjects who must ask...Yes Governor?? By your leave my Lord.

Private ownership of property is what seperates Americans from the rest of the world. What is desired by politicians to be elected/ re elected is to get rid of private property and have subjects....a captive audience.
This is why we have leaders who kowtow to other countries and apologize to them for us being Americans. We must be made to take on the mantle of other countries while giving up that which makes us Americans.

BEWARE!! of those who will constantly remove from you...your private properties.

Orangetom




[edit on 9-4-2009 by orangetom1999]