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Where is the Rapture?

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posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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I have heard alot about what people think will happen in the next couple of years, but where is the rapture? Every topic out there is some form of 'Rapture' so to speak. I havent seen very much about it! I want to know what you think or know about the subject. What kind of 'Rapture' do you think it will be? What do you think will happen after said 'Rapture'?




posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 08:09 PM
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Nobody knows 100% when the rapture will be, or what it will be like.
We only have a few ideas.

Most of the time it's said to be on 2012.
Sometimes people say it's going to be in 2009 or 2010.

Some say it will be like a biblical description of a rapture, or it will be a solar flare, or it will be another ice age, or it be like Y2K.



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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I am attempting to find the link but someone last year had posted a faux news story/video that went into the fact that we all missed the Rapture, and people with bumper stickers saying We're Saved, Rapture Us were demanding their money back, etc.. It was quite amusing ...



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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The jury is still out with me on the rapture. I hope in a way it's true, but I haven't seen enough biblical scripture to support it. Like in 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, the scripture says something about a trumpet blowing when jesus says"come up hither", but that can't be right, for if it was, that would make the scripture in the book of revelations moot because there are only 7 trumpets to be blown in total when the lord returns for his bride. But for the sake of my family and other loved ones, I do hope that there is a rapture, heck, for the sake of the whole world, for I have never thought that satan deserved any soul in hell with him anyways!



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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Its still to come, you in luck... But maybe not.... You will have to go through Persecution before it happens.

The 7th Trumpet is the Lord returning. Rev 11 vs 15. Also read these scriptures to understand the whole Process.

Daniel 7 vs 19-28.
Daniel 8 vs 11-27.
Daniel 12 whole chapter.

All these are the same events describing the same time period.Some giving more info than the next. its all about when Jesus returns.

Oh! don't get mixed up between end of time/end of age(which is the same thing) and end of the world. The end of the world only comes after Jesus reigns on earth for 1000 years.

Then go read Matthew 24 vs 1-44- Its the same events but Told By Jesus.Its also the same story that's in 1 Thessalonians 4 vs 13-18 and 2 Thessalonians 2 vs 1-12. The Trumpet Mentioned here is the same trumpet In Rev 11 vs 15.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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This scripture is a good indicator of world events to watch for prior to the rapture. hmm!

Matt 24:29-31 Jesus own words is the key to when the rapture will be, to gather HIS PEOPLE!.

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 08:40 AM
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Yeah and what happens when 2013 hits and we're all still around?

It's been going on for centuries...all sorts of talk and the date keeps changing. The one thing that never changes is that it doesn't happen.

My answer...the 'rapture' will be in about 4-5 billion years when the sun fizzles and eats us like a Sunday morning Danish

oooh I totally want a Danish now...

-Kyo



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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The idea of the rapture is great simply because it serves as such a wonderful catalyst in the human mind.

those who believe in the rapture; are they acting as better or worse humans? Probably better. Those who disbelieve in it; are they acting as better or worse humans? Probably better, because they have to prove the rapture-crowd wrong.

I believe that if it happens, probably it'll be served up like 9/11 or JFK in that it'll become a crafted black-hole like both of those subjects. If you discuss JFK or 9/11 in a room full of people, please notice how these illuminated dialectical events are designed to superbly divide every room straight down the middle into its own little dialectic.

Similarly, if there is a rapture, afterward people will probably be seen as just "dead" or "missing" and when people talk about it, again, just like JFK or 9/11, the room will divide into two groups, both polarized against the other, neither with enough facts to really convince the other.

But what I personally believe in even more than 'The Rapture' as such, is the "Heavenly VCR". It's always running and the tapes get played to you when you die.

So really, the only question for any human is, "Are you going to want to see your tape?" I think St. Peter might be sitting in front of a TV with a remote control when we die. He invites us to sit down and watch our tape.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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In 2cd Thesselonians the scripture says that "that day", (the rapture) will not take place until the "man of sin", (the antichrist) has been revealed, and only after a "great falling away" (leaving biblical teaching) happens first. This antichrist will enter into the temple in Jerusalem (not yet rebuilt though fully prepared to be) and declare himself to be God, or a god.

Where are we now. We are seeing the unification of one world both in political and economic terms (G20). Israel is at odds with America's new President and possibly a future UN resolution. Orthodox Jews now have a voice in the government through "BB" the Prime Minister. Many mainline churches are liberal and longer hold to biblical teachings. So here it is..

1. a great falling away - almost done
2. a united world - almost done
3. a defiant Israel - almost done
4. a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem - ready to build

It can't be long now...



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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After the turn of each century, their is always ALWAYS a predicted end of the World. Google it if you do not believe me. We are not the first nor will we be the last to ask this question.. Stay strong in your faith. Don't get disheartened if the GREAt PREDICTIONS are just bullcrap. During all bad periods in history men arrise to make magical money making schemes that prey on our fears. Perhaps some study on principalities is in order.


The Rapture, is debated between different denominations of Christianity. In the Book of Revelations it is said that all who die, up til the rapture that are saved are in a purgatory of sorts. Least in the version of the Bible I studied. Which their in lies more complications, so many versions. Quite frankly I feel revelations and the rapture is a mechanism of hope to keep our Faith's strong in following our religious beliefs being good, etc, etc. Quite frankly their may be no rapture, or perhaps it will happen in your own way.

[edit on 8-4-2009 by Adrifter]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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Are you saying that Obama is the "anti-christ"? I think that if Christian scriptures are right that he would fit the description better than anyone else in history. I am not saying all this just because I am a republican, I am saying it because it is a FACT that he is what is described to be the "Devils Son". It says in the bible that he will be in control of the most powerful country in the world, aka The United States of America! As soon as this was certain, it all starts. So if Christians are right, we are all screwed!



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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Obama is just a man with an agenda, but not that agenda. The Beast will be someone that you do not expect and I mean that you DO NOT expect. Also since the Beast is against the USA in the End Times it can't be a US President. I can believe no one has figured out the Beast yet. Calculate it for your sake! I can't post it here, but if you want some insight look in my favorite websites section. The Beast is a man in the last days case, not a kingdom, other-wise the Bible would be contradicting itself. So find the NUMBER of the MAN and it is indeed 666.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 06:49 AM
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I, honestly, don't know if there is a rapture. But...

My "hypothesis" if you will, is that the rapture is something that happens over time.. it is not this "all at once" thing that happens. If you are "raptured" then what happens to your body? It dies? People die, and I think it is a part of the rapture, or at least some of it is.

I think it will get faster as we get closer to the "event." I'm not even a christian, but I think this idea is partially true. These "strange" mass dieings are happening more and more through either mass murderers or more "natural" means ... plane crashes, etc.

People tend to take things way too literal, IMHO.

Uh oh..I'm getting "manic"... I best calm down a bit...

[edit on 9-4-2009 by dragonking76]



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 07:46 AM
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In matthew 24, the olivet prophecy, Jesus plainly states that nothing's gonna happen until "after" the tribulation. I think it is verse 21. So, if there is a rapture, it's not happening til after the trib.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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Perhaps there is simply more than one rapture event. One before the Tribulation so the anti-christ can have something to explain, and again before the start of the GREAT Tribulation or perhaps even afterwards when the beheaded martyrs are taken up and avenged for their testimony. Make sense yet? I think for a fact though that both will happen before the Day of the Lord period.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by tpeele
Where is the Rapture?

It is in the mind of failed Anglican Priest Nelson Darby .. and it's in the minds of all those who believed in his rapture cult. The Rapture was thought up by Nelson Darby in the mid 1800s. The soul-candy mis-interpretation of scripture caught on and now 'the rapture' can be found in the minds of many christian fundamentalists.

That's where it is.
Not in the bible.
Not in reality.
But only in minds.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:13 AM
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I must make a point now.

"For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man" (Lk. 21:35-36).

Then there are verses that seem to suggest a rapture in the middle. After makes no sense as Jesus comes back at the end on the next Sabbatical Year Day of Atonement or maybe a feast which switches dates (which would correspond with "...no man knows the DAY or HOUR.") He did not say MONTH SEASON YEAR...and if God did not tell Noah about the flood he wouldn't have built a boat. So would the faithful not have warning as to the times when we are IN those days?

This leads me to two raptures one pre-trib and one post GREAT TRIB because it does say that all who accept Christ through the Great Tribulation will be made a beheaded saint or martyr when they refuse the mark.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 08:18 AM
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Matthew 24:13 - He who endures to the end will be saved.
Wanna get in a scripture spitting contest?
Those are fun.



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