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posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 07:14 PM
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I have been doing research on Nazi legislation leading from the 1930's and a few things stuck out at me that really hit home.

The first is a BLS(Bureau of Labor Statistics) Report on the pervasive unemployment and underemployment rates for the youth of this country.

EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT AMONG YOUTH--SUMMER 2008


Employment

In July 2008, 21.0 million 16- to 24-year-olds were employed. The
employment-population ratio for youth--the proportion of the 16- to 24-
year-old civilian noninstitutional population that was employed--was
56.0 percent, down 2.0 percentage points from July 2007. The ratio
has fallen by about 13 percentage points since its peak in July 1989;
the steep decline from July 2007 to July 2008 may reflect, in part,
weaker labor market conditions during the summer of 2008. (See
table 2.)

The July employment-population ratio for young men was 57.9 percent
in July 2008, down from 60.3 percent in July 2007. The employment-
population ratios for women (54.2 percent) and whites (59.7 percent)
in July 2008 also were lower than a year earlier. The ratios for
blacks (41.2 percent), Asians (46.4 percent), and Hispanics (50.5 per-
cent) were about unchanged.

In July 2008, 23 percent of employed youth worked in the leisure
and hospitality industry (which includes food services) and 18 percent
worked in retail trade. In addition, nearly two-fifths of employed
youth worked in education and health services, professional and busi-
ness services, government, manufacturing, and construction combined.
(See table 3.)

Unemployment

In July 2008, 3.4 million youth were unemployed and the youth
unemployment rate was 14.0 percent, the highest rate for July since
1992. As with the decline in employment, the increase in youth
unemployment in the summer of 2008 partly reflected a weaker job
market. The July 2008 unemployment rates for young men (15.0 per-
cent), women (12.8 percent), whites (12.3 percent), blacks (24.8
percent), and Hispanics (16.0 percent) increased from a year earlier.
The jobless rate for Asians (8.4 percent) was about unchanged from
July 2007. (See table 2.)


This is illustrating a problem. You have young, healthy individuals who cannot find work. And as the economy continues to contract you end up with a lot of youth broke and potentially on the streets. You get exploting crime rates as a result.

The solution? Public Service Programs.
GIVE Act of 2009 HR 1388(PDF)


8 ‘‘(9) recognize and increase the impact of social
9 entrepreneurs and other nonprofit community orga10
nizations in addressing national and local challenges;
11 ‘‘(10) increase public and private investment in
12 nonprofit community organizations that are effec13
tively addressing national and local challenges and
14 to encourage such organizations to replicate and ex15
pand successful initiatives;
16 ‘‘(11) leverage Federal investments to increase
17 State, local, business, and philanthropic resources to
18 address national and local challenges;
19 ‘‘(12) expand and strengthen service-learning
20 programs through year-round opportunities, includ21
ing during the summer months, to improve the edu22
cation of children and youth and to maximize the
23 benefits of national and community service, in order
24 to renew the ethic of civic responsibility and the
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HR 1388 PCS
1 spirit of community to children and youth through2
out the United States;
3 ‘‘(13) assist in coordinating and strengthening
4 Federal and other service opportunities, including
5 opportunities for participation in emergency and dis6
aster preparedness, relief, and recovery;
7 ‘‘(14) increase service opportunities for our Na8
tion’s retiring professionals, including such opportu9
nities for those retiring from the science, technical,
10 engineering, and mathematics professions to improve
11 the education of our Nation’s youth and keep Amer12
ica competitive in the global knowledge economy,
13 and to further utilize the experience, knowledge, and
14 skills of older Americans;
15 ‘‘(15) encourage the continued service of the
16 alumni of the national service programs, including
17 service in times of national need;
18 ‘‘(16) support institutions of higher education
19 that engage students in community service activities,
20 provide service-learning courses, and encourage or
21 assist graduates to pursue careers in public service
22 in the nonprofit or government sector; and
23 ‘‘(17) encourage members of the Baby Boom
24 generation to partake in service opportunities.’’.
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HR 1388 PCS
1 (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.—The Act is amended by
2 inserting after section 2 the following:
3 ‘‘SEC. 3. SENSE OF CONGRESS.
4 ‘‘It is the sense of Congress that the number of par5
ticipants in approved national service positions, including
6 the Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA) and the
7 National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC), should grow
8 to reach 250,000 participants by 2014.’’.



The Nazi's tried this. And it was wildly successful:

Nazi Economic Policies 1933-1939(PDF)

Youth unemployment was dealt with by the forming of the Voluntary Labour Service (VLS) and the Voluntary Youth Service (VYS), these planted forests, repaired river banks and helped reclaim wasteland.



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Free labor for the Green economy? What do you think?








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posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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[edit on 7-4-2009 by projectvxn]



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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The real question is "What are they working to as an objective?" Is it the same?



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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I doubt it. Public objectives are often very different from Government objectives. It seems to me that they are looking for an excuse to create a sort of slave class under the flag of volunteerism.



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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[edit on 7-4-2009 by projectvxn]

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posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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There is also a Federal Neighborhood spy program called USA on Watch under the Citizen Corp:

www.citizencorps.gov...

USAOnWatch
In 2002, the National Sheriffs' Association (NSA) was awarded a grant to expand and enhance the National Neighborhood Watch Program, in part as a result of September 11, 2001. In the aftermath of the tragic events of that day, the need for a strategy to strengthen and secure our communities became even more critical. As a result, President Bush announced that as part of his Citizen Corps initiative, the Neighborhood Watch Program would be taking on added responsibilities and greater significance. In addition to customary neighborhood crime prevention, programs would also be developed to address terrorism prevention. One of the ways National Sheriffs' Association has sought to educate Neighborhood Watch groups on this issue is through the dissemination of information that teaches them how to incorporate terrorism prevention into the mission of their Neighborhood Watch programs and make preparedness a part of their daily lives. These resources arm private citizens with knowledge that can play a potentially crucial role in the detection and prevention of terrorist acts.

In addition, National Sheriffs' Association was called upon to work with the Administration to double the number of Neighborhood Watch groups throughout the country by January 2004. To assist law enforcement agencies and citizen organizations in meeting the goal of doubling the number of current Watch groups, National Sheriffs' Association launched this website, USAonwatch.org, immediately following the President's State of the Union address. The site not only provides information on Neighborhood Watch and the enables browsers to download National Sheriffs' Association's Neighborhood Watch Implementation Manual, which contains information on how to start a Watch group, but also features success stories and articles on Neighborhood Watch, a weekly email newsletter, and live audio interviews with government officials, law enforcement officials, and others involved in Neighborhood Watch.


This is all directly linked to the Department of Justice through the Community Oriented Policing Services:
www.cops.usdoj.gov...

Essentially a US spy agency for law enforcement to use to gather information on day to day happenings in your neighborhood.



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 09:48 PM
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Here's the COPS resource list as it pertains to Homeland Security:
COPS Publicantions and Training Tools



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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lots of good information here. It reminds me of a film I watched on nazi germany. A child was a volunteer for some government youth program, and ended up being coerced to tell on his parents for their anti-nazi views. Not saying that will happen in America, but clearly the child was brainwashed in the youth program, and I wonder what kind of brainwashing will happen to our own children in a us government sponsored youth program.



posted on Sep, 2 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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I'll add this video to my list of Hitler-esque propaganda:



posted on Sep, 3 2009 @ 08:03 AM
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The United States is collapsing. Vast international conspiracies or not, the only choice the leadership of a collapsing state has is to a) start a war with somebody, or b) revert to fascism or c) collapse.

There are a lot of smart people in the peak oil community who have arrived at many of the same conclusions about the future of the USA, without the conspiracy theories ATSers might use to explain things. I am not saying that either group is wrong - both are probably half right.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Well, the individuals brought to the United States under Operation Paperclip, became some of the most influential members of your contemporary society.

Majority of them, such as Reinhard Gehlen and Wernher von Braun, became significant members of the American military. Somehow, I doubt these gentlemen repented and renounced their pro-Nazi and idealogical past. Do you?

The CIA used former Nazi spies during the Cold War. Parts of the intelligence gathering, and operation itself, were based on models from Nazi Germany.



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by infinite
Well, the individuals brought to the United States under Operation Paperclip, became some of the most influential members of your contemporary society.

Majority of them, such as Reinhard Gehlen and Wernher von Braun, became significant members of the American military. Somehow, I doubt these gentlemen repented and renounced their pro-Nazi and idealogical past. Do you?

The CIA used former Nazi spies during the Cold War. Parts of the intelligence gathering, and operation itself, were based on models from Nazi Germany.


Don't forget Prescott Bush's financial ties to the Nazis, Lindbergh's Nazi sympathies, or Henry Ford's gushing admiration for Hitler along with his outright anti-Semitism. The upper echelons of both the American and British financial and military sectors were full of sympathizers.

If there's a trend toward fascism in American politics (and I don't dispute this) it's been happening for a long time. Eisenhower himself, in a rare fit of laconic honesty, warned of the dangers of the "National Security State."

What's really interesting to me is that fascism seems to be creeping in dressing up as good Republicans and good Democrats. Both parties push similar corporatist agendas, but people only seem to notice when the side they don't like is ostensibly in power. The process has been gradual and insidious. Half the country gets to feel like the "good guys" win every election cycle and the other half gets to fret that the country is going to hell in a handbasket. Wait a few years. Repeat process. Switch sides.

There is an interesting bit here www.youtube.com... by Gore Vidal about the evolution of the "National Security State." It's a very basic but informative and lucid introduction and Vidal, who feels like he hasn't had a horse in the mainstream political race since sometime just after WWII, doesn't hesitate to excoriate both parties or, as he refers to them elsewhere, "the putative right and putative left wing of the only real American political party--the Property Party."



posted on Mar, 31 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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His entire campaign was ridiculously creepy.

Seeing his face posted every on those ridiculous posters made me shudder constantly:





You would think that people would be paying enough attention to see the similar propaganda tactics taking place between the way all Fascists propagandize their leadership and the direction the Obama Administration has taken thus far.

[edit on 3/31/2010 by dalan.]




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