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Originally posted by pepsi78
They are marching with Romanian flag because it's what they are, they are Romanians. The languege is Romanian the flag is colored the same so where is the difrence. There is no such things as the moldovian languege.
The flag and the languege are the same.There is no national identity. Everything is taken from Romania because the majority there are Romanians.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Can you feel the difrence? Evertything is a ripoff.
Originally posted by pepsi78
The president of Moldova is a Russian citizen, speaks the Russian languege, is a former high ranking military Russian officer, just call it a hunch.
Originally posted by pepsi78
The state ran TV station is broadcasting cartoons for kids at 7 aclock in the evening when people should view the news whith what is happening in the country.
Originally posted by pepsi78
The internet network and the mobile phone network were taken offline to disrupt comunications(state controled)
Originally posted by pepsi78
Students that learn over the border in Romania were not permited to return home, they were not permited entry in Moldova and were left standing at the border by the Moldovian border police.
Originally posted by pepsi78
The reason the EU observers called it clean is because the EU does not hold intrest in a small little country
Originally posted by pepsi78
If you did not know 25% of Moldovian population is outside the border, they left the country, and what you do not know is that they were not permited to vote.
Originally posted by pepsi78
All the votes were counted without an observer in a state controled institution by goverment officials. Well how about this, I count the votes without anyone looking at me , I anonce who won, I won.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Another important aspect is seen in the statistics. Statistics said that the comunist party would take about 30% and they took over 55% of the votes making them rule over the majority at the finish line.
Originally posted by pepsi78
And the EU will have a very good motive for rejecting Moldova.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
... The Moldova flag is the same as the Romanian flag, do your research before you put both feet in your mouth....
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Another member already tried to inform you about this, and you continue with your charade.....
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
The breakup of this section of Romania is nothing more than the same old trick of the Communists trying to install their dictatorship.
Originally posted by maloy
It is similar but not the same. Your foot comment is best applied to your own schizopherenic posts, where you claimed that the communists have never won anything fairly.
Originally posted by maloy
And another member already informed you that your knowledge of communism and world history is severely flawed.
Originally posted by maloy
Where are those evil communists that are the subject of your conspiracy theories? Are they hiding inside of hollow earth? Or in an alien spaceship? Or up in the clouds whispering into God's good ear? Oh Oh I know - they are hiding in Kremlin's basement, and remotely controlling cyborg Putin. You should be in Hollywood making films.
Originally posted by maloy
I rather cease commenting to you now, because you don't really present any arguements in your posts, or any facts. All your posts deal with your master conspiracy about evil communists, and arguing with a chronic paranoia is much like arguing with a wall.
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The fact remains that they live in Moldova, which is a sovereign country. The will of the majority there must be respected regardless of whom the minority of Romanian nationalists there owe their loyalty to. They cannot simply take over a country because they are Romanian.
Well just like you point out that there are many Romanians in Moldova, there are similarly many Russians in Moldova.
Any independent proof to that?
It wasn't just the EU. Several international organizations upheld the results. So far every country in the world has agreed with results.
So you are saying OSCE is a sham, and their report on the elections is false? If not the OSCE who else do we have to believe? Anyone with an opinion? Well you do know about opinions and what good they are right?
This is not so much about EU. The EU wouldn't accept Moldova right now, regardless of who is in power. The EU isn't accepting anyone at the moment in fact.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
My knowledge on Communism has come from experience and not from reading meanwhile you sit confortably with all the priviledges that people under Communist dictatorships lack.....
Originally posted by maloy
Oh Boy, I really wonder what Chavez meant by as stated by him in the comments I gave......
Originally posted by maloy
Do not make comments regarding where I live or where my information comes from if you know absolutely nothing about me - which you don't.
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Communism isn't black and white, nor is capitalism or any other idealogy - everything has pluses and minuses - and to say otherwise would be ignorant.
And I suggest you don't voice any assumptions about my priviledges again - unless you know who I am and where I come from.
Originally posted by maloy
What the hell does Chavez have to do with any of this?
Chavez says China part of 'new world order'
BEIJING – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez says his two-day visit to Beijing this week is part of the creation of a "new world order."
The frequent U.S. critic, who met with China's president and Communist Party leader Hu Jintao on Wednesday, told reporters that power in the world was shifting from America to countries such as Iran, Japan and China.
"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world," Chavez said after arriving Tuesday evening.
"The unipolar world has collapsed. The power of the U.S. empire has collapsed," he said. "Everyday, the new poles of world power are becoming stronger. Beijing, Tokyo, Tehran ... it's moving toward the East and toward the South."
Originally posted by pepsi78
There is no natioalist Romanian minority there, most of Moldovians are Romanians. The languege, the customs, the flag and so on.It's the same thing as over the border, same water, same blood.
Originally posted by pepsi78
You can't sustain that a group that form a minority ploted to take over when in general all the people there are part of Romania's national identity.
Originally posted by pepsi78
It's normal that people want to go back to where they come from. What happened there was independent , there was no plot
by anyone. I don't think anyone istigated or ploted for this to happen.
Originally posted by pepsi78
This with pointing fingers is just how comunists deal with things, they find someone to blame to cover up for failure.
Originally posted by pepsi78
What happened there is not the fault of anyone, the comunists are to blame.
Originally posted by pepsi78
No one demanded that they join and unify, what is happening now in Moldova is something that the people there decided to do whithout any influnece from outside.
Originally posted by pepsi78
No that is wrong, there are Russified Romanians, comunists made them learn Russian, and an intense Russification took place. They may speak Russian but I guaranty you they are not of any sort that you speak of.
Originally posted by pepsi78
I can guaranty you that is what happened, even more borders were cloesed , international press was denied entry, baricades were formed on the road to the capital so no one else will join the protests, does this ring a bell for you from the past?
Originally posted by pepsi78
It's just because they do not care about a little country, you can be sure it was a fraud.Others that left the country could not even vote.They make up for 25% of the country's population.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Long lines were formed at the Moldovian ambasy in Romania for people to vote, it never happened.
Originally posted by pepsi78
It's what happened, they counted the votes in a state ran facility by goverment officials, it's not normal for goverment representatives to count the votes, the party involved should be a public institution.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Yes and this will be a big excuse for EU to reject Moldova. It's why it was "all clean" so there is no remorse when they deny entry to Moldova.
It's all true and fair, however fact of the matter is that the two countries are separate and independent from each other. The leadership in Moldova should be chosen by the majority of Moldova's own population, as in citizens of Moldova.
Either way I never argued that Modova and Romania must be completely separate. But why do these youths resort to vandalism and violent protest to voice their opinion?
The riots were not sponteneous - the participants were called on to come and organized in some way. Somebody had to carry out a massive messaging campaign to make people gather in Chisinau. Somebody led the rioters to storm the government buildings. These types of thing don't happen sponteneously. Who organized them I don't know - but they were definitely planned. After all - communist victory was predicted ahead of time - so they had time to prepare.
What failure would that be?
The "communists" are not to blame for the split between Romania and Moldova. I have studied the subject of "divide and rule" Soviet tactics of the 1930-50 well enough to know that much of this was the work of one man, who wasn't even a true communist but just a tyrant - Stalin. It was him who made similar geographical divisions in the Caucasus - paving the way for the Nagorno-Karabakh, South Ossetia, and Abkhazia conflicts.
You have to admit that Romania has substantial interest in these events.
For many years Romania has been to some extent involved in Moldova's politics (not that that is a bad thing). I am willing to bet that Romania is having some measure of involvement - how much is unclear.
As for after the riots started - what else would the government do to cease the vandalism and rioting? Any country would have declared martial law after what happened in Chisinau.
Well are they legal citizens with documents? And even then, the communists' win was overwhelming, so the outside voters are unlikely to have changed anything.
How did they cast votes before? How do you propose they vote if not through an embassy?
Well blame that on the bureaucracy of the Moldovan government. Similar "voting" happens in many Eastern European states. Is the process any different in Romania?
Either way, knowing OSCE and how much they like to find any fault in elections of any Eastern European country, I seriously doubt that their opinion is incorrect. If anything OSCE was always somewhat biased against communists, so certainly they would watch this one closely.