Overpopulation? Nope, not the problem

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


I have seen this video a long time ago. But I have to say try reading the breakdown of nations by Leopold kohr.

The main problem with violence and social breakdown actually has at its cause people wanting bigger and bigger things. Big cities actually contribute to misery, in fact recently a scientific article said that they cause mental illness. So there would be your Obama adminstration and it's city community organizer crap, it leads to misery and dashed hopes and dreams that go unfulfilled.

They used to say GO WEST YOUNG MAN for a reason. Too bad now if say that you are painted as a Turner Diaries terrorist, what a croc of BS.

reply to post by bubbabuddha


lol totaly agree.. our life style is based on greed and over consumption!!!

we are screwed we cant go on for ever having growth its not POSSIBLE!!!

fininte vs ever increase in population / capitor = armagedon

we just dont even see it coming but yet its a basic fact...

we aint even found a new place to live but we insist on the very thing that wil llead to our down fall

why cant people just be honest and say look guys we have come to a point were our planet can not do any more for us we need to take drastic mesures in order for the human race an everything on the earth to survive

Oh but no.. why? coz the people at the top have another plan ... perpetuate the game..

the game is greed power and controll we are fuczkord



[edit on 6-4-2009 by symmetricAvenger]

reply to post by OpusMarkII


that is the reason why we are in the mess.. can you not look past your own nose for one minute???

its got nothing to do with A PLACE its the fact humans f# like rabbits...

WE LIVE ON A PLANET THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE POPULATION OF THE HUMAN RACE

god how simple can it be? WE ARE ALL THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE DONT GIVE A RATS BEHINDE ABOUT HOW OR WHAT WE USE TO SUSTAIN OUR VERY LIFE..

fs man its not hard... its OUR ENTIRE RACE AT STAKE HERE not britan not the usa not china THE #HUMAN RACE

why bother..

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reply to post by spinkyboo


no the problem is we live on planet earth....

we live on a PLANET !!!!!!

people think its like star trek or something THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON THE EARTH is the problem...

didnt you bother to listen? or watch the vids? if we keep going at the rate we are WE WILL HAVE A HUMAN PER METER SQUARED ON THE PLANTET

omg :/ /me bangs head on wall

The problem is more than just overpopulation. It is compounded by our wastefulness, our overconsumption and our waste by-products, both biological and industrial.

Sure, we could spread ourselves out over a larger area on the globe, but then well will run into new problems such as conflict with nature (animals, insects, diseases) and we cause even more extinctions that we are currently directly or indirectly responsible for.

Our wasteful use of land has led to desertification, extinction and the rise of diseases as we move further into new areas and clearcut the land to make room for human civilization.

There are so many of us that we are poisoning the land and water just by being alive. We are consuming the worlds renewable resources faster than they can regrow.
As someone else pointed out, we are also running out of fresh water.

It's not all doom and gloom though. A lot of these problems can be solved with technology and a shift in how we use the resources at our disposal.

We can convert sea-water into fresh water, but it takes a tremendous amount of electricity and is extremely expensive.
We can recycle more spent resources and finished products, and better filter and treat our wastes. The only thing holding us back is $$$.
These things are expensive, and we are too hung up on our own creature comforts and these problems do not directly threaten us right now.
When things become critical, we will either act and stave off a bleak future, or there will be a mass human extinction brought about by a combination of greed and laziness.
We will probably save ourselves though, I just had to add in the other alternative because there is a chance it could happen.

It wouldn't hurt for us to thin out the human herd through planned parenting and a limit on children per family.

PS Symmetric, try some decaf

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reply to post by Thinkmore


hehe im sorry

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[edit on 6-4-2009 by symmetricAvenger]

The population is so dense in some places because those places have something to give the people living there, like, oh I don't know, WATER or arable land? So we can hardly spread our people out more, because living in deserts and on tundra is hard, and you know we'd send the poor people who can't afford heating there to DIE.

Originally posted by spinkyboo
There is plenty of space for us to live.
There are plenty of ways to grow food and keep our water flowing and clean.
There are numerous ways for us to get our needs met.
Some people think they "own" the land.
Some people make laws and rules that make it impossible for the
general public to investigate outside of the box - and use their own creativity
to manage their own lives.
Some people want to control the masses.
The problem is not the population.
The problem are these people.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by spinkyboo]

I agree,

There is much more thought that can be put into alternate energy sources. Its obvious they are out there, if e.t. can use them.

Unfortunately, the mass thought of the world is contributed elsewhere, particularly in places that are ultimately futile.