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Father kills five children, then himself after wife leaves in third US shooting

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posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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Father kills five children, then himself after wife leaves in third US shooting


www.theaustralian.news.com.au

A WASHINGTON state man shot and killed his five children, between the ages of seven and 16, then turned the gun on himself after his wife told him she was leaving him, in the third mass shooting in the US since Friday.

James Harrison, 34, killed his children early Saturday inside his mobile home in Graham, 100km south of Seattle, then drove to a nearby casino and shot himself inside his car, Pierce County sheriff Paul Pastor told reporters.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:18 AM
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this becoming a normal thing in america.
soon i'll be shocked when i don't hear about someone killing their family or some other innocent people.


This was not a tragedy. It was a rotten murder,''


what is it gonna take?

would the average american lay down his gun to stop this madness?

www.theaustralian.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by spearhead


this becoming a normal thing in america.
soon i'll be shocked when i don't hear about someone killing their family or some other innocent people.


This was not a tragedy. It was a rotten murder,''


what is it gonna take?

would the average american lay down his gun to stop this madness?

www.theaustralian.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)


this is getting out of control,something is not right at the minute,to many people are doing things like this.
its unnatural something is causing it.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:25 AM
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Oh well, this sort of stuff has been going on since the beginning of time.

It's not healthy to worry about ALL of society, as there are 300 million people living in America, and I'm only equipped to help/care for a few hundred, at most.

This just isn't something that bothers me anymore -- don't know why anybody would care about it too much, frankly. There are just too many people in the whole of America to worry about every single one of them.

However, I do hate to read stories like this, and we should indeed sympathize with the family members left to mourn. Such is life, though. Very tragic



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by welivefortheson

its unnatural something is causing it.




from the OP's link
Criminologist Jack Levin, of Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts, said there appears to be a link between the failing US economy and a rising body count.

"A mass killer is someone who has almost always suffered a catastrophic loss - that's the link between a recession and mass killings,'' he said, citing the loss of a job, money or a relationship.

"Catastrophic losses serve as inspiration, or precipitant,'' he told AFP.


i guess hopelessness is a powerfully destructive emotion. the sad thing is, many in the MSM and Alternative Media alike seem to revel in it so fully.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:42 AM
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I find it quite a stretch to link this with the other two recent shootings.
Not justifying his actions, but from the info in the article, this guy acted out of temporary insanity due to the actions of his wife.
No, I'm not justifying it, and that doesn't make it any less tragic.
But this guy is not the first in history to go off the deep end under similar circumstances, nor will he be the last.
I wonder if he had not killed his children as well, or if he had less children, would it have been reported at all or compared in the same article to the other crimes.
I doubt we would have even heard about it.
A bit o' media hamburger.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by spearhead
what is it gonna take?

would the average american lay down his gun to stop this madness?

If you consider the average American to be the type of person to kill their family and other innocents at the drop of a hat then I suggest you take a minute to get to know some average Americans.

Prejudice isn't pretty.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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I agree, if he HADN'T killed his children this wouldn't have made the headlines, even if he had killed his wife first then himself, it wouldn't be in the papers.
But because he killed his CHILDREN it garners publicity to make the masses belief that it is another reason to ban guns from the American home.
It's just another nail in the coffin to bring in gun laws pretty much like it has here in the UK ( all the shootings that led to guns being banned involved children being killed) .
There are people killing their families all over the world but it never makes it into the other countries headlines, unless it involves children.

You just watch this and possibly another couple of shootings soon to brin it to teh attention of the US Government so that it can remove guns from teh hands of the public. Allowing TPTB to strip the defenses of the American people for when they try to impose martial law.

It doesn't matter when people shoot dead another person, , it very rarely makes the news and besides taking guns away from people doesn't stop the killings, look at here in the UK, we still have gun crime, the criminals still have guns , the police still have guns, the people don't and who gets killed the most? those without guns.
At least in the US , you get a burglar breaking into a home he runs the risk of being shot by the owner, and sometimes that acts as a detterent, over here they break in and shoot the owner for fun.

I think I'll move to Foresight and get myself tooled up.


[edit on 6/4/09 by DataWraith]



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by DataWraith
But because he killed his CHILDREN it garners publicity to make the masses belief that it is another reason to ban guns from the American home.
It's just another nail in the coffin to bring in gun laws pretty much like it has here in the UK ( all the shootings that led to guns being banned involved children being killed) .


the article states he died of a rifle shot to the head, as far as i'm aware you can still get a hunting licence in the UK allowing you to own a rifle, or a shotgun.

in other words, a "weapons ban" would be pointless in this situation, he probably owned the rifle for hunting rather than shooting burglers.

perhaps we should ban hopelessness instead, it seems a nicer solution. it would probably work better but it would be unpopular because it would require everyone to contribute to the happiness of others as a priority over themselves.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Yes you can still get a firearms and shotgun licence here in the UK, I even downloaded the forms to do so this morning, but like I said , it doesn't matter what type of gun is used to kill, its still another " oh no we must ban guns " kind of comment everytime something like this happens.
And yes I would love to ban hopelessness, but unfortunately we should be banning hopelessness caused by the Governments , failing that ineptitude and government corruption first.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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Shock and Gore sell papers and airtime.

Unfortunately this type of thing goes on all the time. We have had one or two big public shootings and now the media is on the lookout for the next massacre to grab even more ratings!


I wish they would focus on some the good things that are going in the world as much as they zoom in on the ugliest things man does to each other!




posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by DataWraith
And yes I would love to ban hopelessness, but unfortunately we should be banning hopelessness caused by the Governments , failing that ineptitude and government corruption first.


the government is an extension of the will of the people and nothing more.

the people will always get exactly the government they deserve and, no matter how you try to abdicate responsibility, this will always be true.

to paraphrase "i don't blame the [government], the [government] are just arseholes, we on the other hand are ruled by arseholes"





posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 09:17 AM
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These type of events come in clusters. Synchronisity? Copy cat? Mystical connections? Media attention?

As the economy declines and joblessness increase; I expect the clusters to get closer and closer together. Or perhaps the MSM will glom onto another media event and the mass killings will be forgotten. My cynicism of the medias grows daily.


to paraphrase "i don't blame the [government], the [government] are just arseholes, we on the other hand are ruled by arseholes"

That isn't very flattering to those that choose the govt. is it? How does the future look in your eyes? To me it looks bloody.

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house.





[edit on 6-4-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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.....the economy.....the coming apocalypse....hell who knows....



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by whaaa
That isn't very flattering to those that choose the govt. is it? How does the future look in your eyes? To me it looks bloody.

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house.


the government does exactly what those that choose the government want them to do.

the future looks bloody to you? it's nearly impossible to get a voter turnout above 50%, i hope you're not expecting a popular revolution on a national scale.

this isn't the monkey house friend, it's the lions larder.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Why do people automatically go to giving up our guns when it comes to this? Would this man have reacted differently if he had a sword or a chain saw?

I think it is very obvious why we're seeing a RISE IN COVERAGE of these events.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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These type of events come in clusters. Synchronisity? Copy cat? Mystical connections? Media attention?


Definitely media attention.
Notice when a plane crashes, you hear nothing but plane mishaps for the next 2-3 weeks afterwards? Even if a plane has a rough landing and overshoots the runway you'll hear about it whether there were injuries or not.
There appears to be cycles in which the news around the world revolves and how the spin doctors present it to us.
Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see. period.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by pieman
...the government does exactly what those that choose the government want them to do. ...

Care to look up what percentage of the population was AGAINST the bank bailouts? When you have done so, see if you can make that same statement with a straight face.

On topic: I'll bet anything the wife had some BS excuse for leaving him (in other words, not a VALID reason). More and more men are going to be doing this in the future, watch and see. Society hasn't left them any alternatives.

Men being forced to pay child support for kids that aren't even biologically theirs (paternity fraud), men being forced to give up 1/2 of their stuff when divorced (even if the wife cheated), and men being denied access to their own children via court's penchant for giving children to the mother (ieven though, statistically speaking a single mother is the MOST dangerous person to a child, followed by her boyfriend). I predict that you will see more and more of this happening.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by sir_chancealot]



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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yeah, lots of people whined about the bank bailouts but they mostly don't vote, and when they do, they always vote for who they're told to vote for, they rarely lobby, they don't donate to political parties and they certainly don't ever support anyone beside the two main parties.

the fact is, until such time as the people are fulfilling their democratic rights in a responsible manner, they won't be the ones choosing the governments.

and as long as the US allows instatutionalised bribery in the form of professional lobbist's, the US will be the least democratic of the industrialised nations. (and i include china)

and read the link, she was seeing another man.

from the OP's link
Harrison on Friday looked for his missing wife and found her at a convenience store with another man. The woman said she was leaving Harrison to be with her new boyfriend.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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Obama and his green scientists should be happy, less CO2 makers causing global warming! He should be handing out guns with bailouts and mandating gun purchases with tax rebates to end the global warming crisis for good.

They call for less population, more abortion and yet somehow they don't want us to own guns, I think they are scared of the population revolting against their welfare to wall st programs and the tax credits to Al Gore going south, so they fear real CHANGE.

Same as it ever was.



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