Does the earth move and rotate on its axis?, page 8

Originally posted by ngchunter

I'll be famous for reproving something long proven? Amazing. Well in any case, the fact that the shuttle and ISS don't keep flying over the same points on the ground in every consecutive orbit but instead propagate east to west on every consecutive orbit as the earth rotates beneath it is proof enough that the earth rotates once per day.

Yes, you will be famous. Many have tried before you. The orbits you speak of are not proof and support the geocentric model equally. The only experiment you have in physics to support your model is Faucault, and this is not even a free swinging pendulum.

Originally posted by ngchunter
I've already shown why your attempt at reinterpreting the results is wrong, I even showed why your attempt to rename one of them is revisionist.

It's not my attempt to rename Airy's Failure. I'm quite sure this experiment was named that from the beginning because it proved the opposite to what the experimenter (a helio) intended. He set out to prove the earth was turning, moving, and his experiment proved the opposite. So it was called a "failure" by general consensus from the helios cheering him on (who are the vast majority). Only recently, with the rise of the Internet, has geocentrism been reconsidered as being the truthful explanation concerning origins and the movement of the earth, stars and planets.

(by Salt) The Bible says that God "hung the earth in space" and that He set the sun and moon and stars in their paths.

Originally posted by ngchunter

The sun, moon, and stars are also moving in heliocentrism...

According to modern "science" the paths of the stars are straight out to nowhere until they reach some point whereby everything will suddenly implode back to its original state of one speck containing the entire universe. This is not a path per se. The Bible, in contrast, says the sun is likened to a swift runner that hastens back to the place from which it started each day.

The orbiting of moons around the planets in our solar system does not prove that the earth is orbiting the sun. The claim by science and its Hubble telescope that they see other stars with planets circling them -- I just don't believe it. It's just another lie among many. Lies, lies, lies.

There's one thing that does not lie, the only thing I have ever found so, and that is God's Word. God doesn't lie, and neither does his word.

Who are you going to believe? NASA and it's Hubble telescope that can't take a decent picture of the moon? NASA who claims to have flown men 12 times through the Van Allen belts, landed men six times on the moon in a treehouse made of roofing paper and gold foil, all propped up on spider legs --

Do you believe NASA or the Bible?

If you haven't figured out by now that the Illuminati, who own this planet, LIE, that everything they do is designed to deceive mankind through mind control, and

they are the most religious people of all, in total communion and obsessed with their devils that empower them and give them all their wealth

-- they are LAUGHING at all of us for believing their silly magick tricks and falling for their hoaxes and scams to the point that we go to war and kill each other off, abandon belief in God, become atheists, start believing in aliens, and will accept their chimera abominations they have bred to be their slaves, creatures made in their labs by combining human, animal, bug genes -- that we will accept these creatures as alien "gods."

They are LAUGHING AT ALL OF US. They teach you to be atheists, believing in space aliens, while THEY sacrifice and torture and orgy in honor of Satan and communicate with devils face to face. The former astroNOT Mitchell who is telling us the aliens are coming, HE is a freemason who believes in Lucifer.

So HE believes in Lucifer, but he wants you and me to believe in space aliens.

And he is willing to LIE TO US to get us to believe this.

All the astroNOTS are Freemasons. They believe in Jahbulon, a god with three heads on a spider body. Or Baphomet, a creature with a goat's head, a woman's torso, and a goat's legs and genitals. They are SATANISTS.

They are murderers. They murdered Gus Grissom and the other two astroNOTs. They are liars. They are devil worshippers.

Right now they are preparing an alien invasion hoax on us. They are the ones planning to pull off the Operation Blue Beam, to project a hologram in the sky to make us literally worship the devil.

They meet with devils in underground dungeons, help them to breed creatures that are an abomination to God.

They are not satisfied to steal your body and your money and your homes. They want your SOUL and YOUR MIND.

Dr. Jones is a physicist. How many of you can earn a Ph.D in physics? Same with Dr. Bowe (sp?) and others. I'm not a scientist or certainly a physicist, but I have enough sense to know when I'm being lied to. Anybody who can take a close look at that phony moon lander and insist that it landed on the moon six times, then took off to join up with the "mother ship" -- look at the pictures supposedly of the surface of the moon and not see that it just looks like earth, a bunch of small rounded rocks and such, can't see that the astroNOTs are either photographed slow motion and/or on wires -- and just use your common sense a bit, trust your own brain and eyes is the one who is the religious one, worshipping "science so-called," afraid to think for yourself, to use the brains God gave you, to believe your own two eyes.

Dr. Jones could be making big bucks working for Satan like all the other people who sold their souls. Some people can't be bought.

Wake up. Satan is a real person. You want aliens? They are devils, and they are real, and they exist in the air, on the earth and under the earth. They are intelligent and they have one mission, which is to destroy the earth utterly, to kill every human being, and, first and most important, to deceive each person, to steal their mind and soul forever.

This is the truth, the bottom line. These beings are REAL. They are NOT "ghosts" or "aliens." They are DEVILS.

They are liars and deceivers, just like you were sitting in the audience at a magician's show. The world is their stage. In a magician's show you know it's just a show, that it's "magic," and even then people wonder if it's really illusion or real. But when they do this stuff in the real world, announce their lies with a straight face in unison on the controlled media by their talking points through their paid actors (paid liars), we should not be listening or believing them.

NASA is notorious for being Freemasons, but Congress is also full of devil worshippers, pedophiles, the best Congress money can buy.

Just wake up. Stop living in the matrix. Wake up before it's too late.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by Salt of the Earth]

[edit on 15-5-2009 by Salt of the Earth]