Originally posted by Shadowflux
I doubt I'll actually attemtp to join the organization, though, as I don't usually pledge my alleigance to any aprticular group and I'm reluctant to get too close with people who are as into sex magic as Crowely was.
makes magick more potent and can lead to reintegration and liberation
"S. L. MacGregor Mathers created the Golden Dawn and his teachings are good.
"However, this institution and its teachings were corrupted when it was taken over by Aleister Crowley. So, anything related with the Golden Dawn must be carefully discerned.
"If you want to become a practical magician, it is better to read Logos Mantra Theurgy and the many other kabbalistic works of Samael Aun Weor."
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
Well then, enjoy the "cake of light". Just remember to ask them if they make it "by the book"..
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
Yes, it's dangerous for your immortal soul. Do not join.
Aspects of their mass are an abomination to God, and even Jesus had something to say about it in the gnostic gospels.
"The Gnostic Mass of the White Brotherhood, has nothing to do with that Black Crowley ceremony that you have seen on the internet!
"The Protoplasmic, Lunar, Bestial bodies (that any beast of the kingdom possesses), in other words, the pluralized ego, is the vessel or vessels that Black Kabbalists use in order to receive or collect the devolving forces of Klipoth (Hell, the infradimensions) by means of Black Tantra.
"Through Black Tantra, that is, through their Masses and the practices of the sexual degeneration of the sphere of Lilith their ego receives or collects, the devolving forces of Klipoth.
"The Naked Priestess of that ritual is the symbol of Lilith (whoredom), which the Black Kabbalists worship. Crowley asked people to call him "The Beast 666"
"Crowle y misused the ancient Gnostic word "Thelema" for his own filthy ambitions!
"We, Gnostics are not members of the Roman Catholic Church either. The Catholic church only follows the path of the Monk."
"The Mysteries of Isis, Osiris and Horus are derived from a Neptunian-Amentian period (Fourth Dimension), which is lost in the terrifying night of all ages."
"Simon Magus, Papus (Gerard Encausse), Crowley and many other Black Magicians who claimed to be Gnostic Thelemites, adulterated the sacred Gnostic teachings and rituals; they betrayed and abused the friendship and the trust of the Masters of those sacred colleges for Initiation from the White Lodge!
"Therefore, it is not strange to presently find among the writings of these cunning individuals from these dens of the black lodge, terms, sciences and rituals similar to those that were used within those colleges for Initiation."
"These black magicians from darkness abound wherever there existed colleges for Initiation. They are the antitheses of those colleges and they speak as Masters, always boasting about being Initiates of those colleges."
"Exactly! Crowley was just a very cunning Hanasmuss! And that is all!"
"And if Aleister Crowley betrayed his oath by printing the sacred rituals of the Gnostic Church for the public that is not our problem, but his! The Cosmic Law already heard his case and sentenced him."
"Actually, the placing of the Tarot/letters of the Hebrew alphabet came from the writings of Samuel MacGregor Mathers and his "Golden Dawn". Crowley was just a copy cat.
"Samael Aun Weor didn't seem to say anything about this. Therefore, it may not be so important as to where they are located. In my opinion, MacGregor Mathers was a very well learned Kabbalist and was not inherently negative (that is why Crowley attacked him!). The so called "path working" according to the above named tradition is not used at all by the studens of Master Samael.
"It is most important for us to create the Tree within us, through the initiatic principles of alchemy and transmutation."
Originally posted by Dokuja
I too am one who is interested in pursuing the OTO. I am a Master Mason and I was wondering if anyone else here was a Master Mason who had experience with the OTO, or the GD, or AMORC, etc. Or even if you are not a Master Mason, what guidance would you have to provide a possible new-initiate with? Thank you and many blessings!