DARPA wants 'clandestine' 3D building-interior mapping kit; 'Active' probes via plumbing, wiring

DARPA wants 'clandestine' 3D building-interior mapping kit; 'Active' probes via plumbing, wiring etc

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Pentagon bizarro-tech chiefs have issued a requirement for mysterious sensor systems which would be able to peer through concrete walls to produce a complete internal picture of a building. US Forces would use such kit for "overseas urban building interior awareness".

The new plans are known as "Comprehensive Interior Reconnaissance", and come - of course - from famed off-the-wall military tech bureau DARPA, where they believe it's better to invent a head-mounted multispectral imaging device than curse the darkness. The Pentagon brainiacs note:

As overseas military and peace-keeping operations have expanded in urban environments, our adversaries have adopted asymmetric strategies such as hiding in and operating out of civilian buildings ... it is imperative that we develop technologies to allow US Forces to confidently manoeuvre within urban interiors whether above or below ground ...

Once specific buildings have been identified as deserving closer scrutiny, our forces [will] concentrate specific resources on these buildings to support tactical planning. Deployed sensors can spend more time providing detailed situational awareness of a single building, determining its floor plan, underground extent, and underground ingress and egress ...

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DARPA is one of many occult government-controlled corporations, which works hard to get personal & public information from large & small foreign & domestic companies & privacy-advocates.

They make microchips (along with Microsoft) & high-tech weapons for death-squads along with subjects of the international-military.

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It would be nice for a soldier to see what is in a house he is about to go into before hand but if the troops have them in the desert, guess who will have them here. Can you imagine anything more invasive? Say good bye to your hidden safes and hidey holes.

Originally posted by News And History


DARPA is one of many occult government-controlled corporations, which works hard to get personal & public information from large & small foreign & domestic companies & privacy-advocates.

They make microchips (along with Microsoft) & high-tech weapons for death-squads along with subjects of the international-military.

Sorry that made me laugh man!

DARPA is a pretty interesting organisation, very secretive for clear reasons, they develop some cool kit... For every one soloution that comes out of that place I bet there were 50 seriously wacky ideas, 50 insanely sci fi ideas, a couple of stupid ones they thought they would try any way and one or two that glowed in the dark.

But why are they occult

Also I don't thnk microsoft produces many microchips... If any, they do software - all the chips are made by the lowest bidder.

I have come across a fair number of posts by N+H, and every single one has the word "Occult" in it. While we know that some of our leaders do in fact dabble in the occult, I'm afraid that N+H sees Occult conspiracy in every thing he sees. If you just look past his obsession with the Occult.. his posts can still be informative. You just have to take him with a grain of salt.

Yes and getting back ON topic....

This seems like a fanciful and cutting-edge proposition, until you read this part:

All this should be achieved without any US personnel needing to get within 10m of the building, and only brief excursions inside 20m: and the machinery should have the complete building map produced within 3 days.

3 Days?

So before you go and storm a suspected terrorist cell or Insurgent stronghold you have to analyse the building, by getting dangerously close to it (within 10m) where any number of people could tip off the inhabitants to your presence, and THEN you need to wait 3 days before you can even plan out the raid?

Doesn't seem very practical.

[edit on 6/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Think your abit abit behind on the current status, below is a link of the hand held unit.

NOTE ** Click on the second photo showing the unit as it is, then enlarge the image to read what it has stamped just above the hand held grip.

www.poc.com...

reply to post by tristar


That's not the same device.

That link shows a handheld X-Ray scanner used by airport customs stuff and the like.

From the original article:

they believe it's better to invent a head-mounted multispectral imaging device

think that operational systems would be deployed in vehicles and aircraft, or perhaps placed near a building of interest by US personnel. The latter static jobs should be no bigger than backpack sized, and "compatible with clandestine operations".

Occult just means secret so don't get all up in arms about Satan and witchcraft and the like. In the context of the sentence he is saying it is a secret organization. Why does everyone think occult means something bad?

reply to post by TheComte


Occult refers to things that are supernatural or beyond human comprehension.

DARPA is a leader in science and technology, the opposite of occult.

Also, DARPA is not a secret organization. The fact that it conducts classified research and development is no different than any other government agency.

Not wishing to get involved in the occult debate, I find this technology to be quite frightening. I believe we need to have a drastic reform as a single humanity to redefine privacy rights in the face of ever-expanding technologies. We could enter a new era in which inter-, super-, supra-, and transnational undermining of privacy could be a thing of the past. Alas, capital is invasive by nature (seemingly).

reply to post by Pyros


Think what you want to think. The fact is the word occult has many different uses in the English language and the root of the word, from the Latin occultus means hidden or secret. The research that DARPA does is hidden and secret so in this context it is correct.

The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In the medical sense it is used to refer to a structure or process that is hidden, e.g. an "occult bleed"[2] may be one detected indirectly by the presence of otherwise unexplained anaemia.

en.wikipedia.org...

Sorry for getting off topic but deny ignorance after all.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by TheComte]

Oh. Well then the enemy will have to come up with something that can screw up the readings from the sensors, which will probably be cheaper than the sensors themselves. This may work for a year or so before it becomes obsolete. Welcome to "Cold War II".

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
3 Days?

So before you go and storm a suspected terrorist cell or Insurgent stronghold you have to analyse the building, by getting dangerously close to it (within 10m) where any number of people could tip off the inhabitants to your presence, and THEN you need to wait 3 days before you can even plan out the raid?

Doesn't seem very practical.

[edit on 6/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

But it's imminently practical for domestic spying, no?

That is a good point. When developed, they could sell this system to the usual suspects, and we would likely see it used in our own countries. I am sure this would be used against us. This is so 1984 it is scary to think about.

Thank god they do not have the manpower right now to watch everybody. This will likely be used with great success to capture some mid-level dealers or to break a hostage stand off.

If they can reduce the time frame that it takes to generate a map of the building, this will be wildly popular with law enforcement and Hostage situations as well.

We can already "see" and track targets behind walls or obstructions. What this proposes is to create an accurate diagram of any building and links connected to it, via remote sensors. You could, theoretically, map any potential (conflict) city in the world (passively) and add it to a database. When time comes for urban operations everyone has situational awareness of the internal, as well as the external structure of any location. Combine this with the above mentioned means of actively tracking targets behind obstructions and one has an effective tool for urban operations.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by WestPoint23]

Same debate that's been going on since people started using sharp things.

There is always the chance that some new technology will be used against you. Question is, do we develop it first, or find out about it when someone uses it on us?

Of course there are domestic uses for this technology. Like the above poster mentioned, some of those uses may include bomb threats or hostage situations. They may also include drug raids or warrants.

Que sera.

Just hurry up and let me know about the hand held model!!
With a few ISP's and one of them, I would live like a king off everyone elses burried stuff!
If, it is true it's pretty spooky to think that in a few years, all federal inspectors "residentual?" would be getting a 3d digital image, of your home.

reply to post by sir_chancealot

But it's imminently practical for domestic spying, no?

Well in it's current state it seems to be ideal for just that purpose.

But I assume this is going to be refined and streamlined to the point where it can draw accurate diagrams of interiors in real-time.