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posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Taliban threaten 2 attacks per week in Pakistan


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ISLAMABAD (AP) — A suicide bombing at a crowded Shiite mosque south of Pakistan's capital killed 22 people Sunday, the latest evidence of how security in the U.S.-allied nation is crumbling well beyond the Afghan border region where al-Qaida and Taliban fighters thrive.

The violence came as a senior Pakistani Taliban commander said his group was behind a deadly suicide bombing Saturday night in Islamabad and promised two more attacks per week in the country if the U.S. does not stop missile strikes on Pakistani territory.

Sunday's suicide bomber set off his explosives at the entrance to a mosque in Chakwal city in Punjab province, some 50 miles (80 kilometers) south of Islamabad, said Nadeem Hasan Asif, a top security official in the province. The blast killed 22 and wounded dozens, he said.

A little-known group believed linked to the Pakistani Taliban claimed it had staged the attack. Pakistan also has a history of sectarian violence, often involving Sunni extremists targeting minority Shiite Muslims.
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posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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So because american drones are raining missiles on the Talibans heads these days, the Tabliban leadership figures by killing their fellow countrymen they will somehow convince the americans to stop the attacks.

They obviously didn't figure out after 911 that the US government could care less about killing americans citizens, so why would they care if the Taliban kills Shiite's in Pakistan.

I have to note there really doesn't seem to be any unity in middle east countries like Pakistan, Iraq, India, etc. They are divided by religion and commit acts of violence against fellow citizens regularly. This all changes however when it is a "infidel" who commits the act of violence against their country, then its time for all to hold hands and start holy war.

Can't see this threat going anywhere, there is no way Pakistan is going to turn down Obama's aid package in return for helping the US fight the Taliban.



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posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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A little-known group believed linked to the Pakistani Taliban claimed it had staged the attack. Pakistan also has a history of sectarian violence, often involving Sunni extremists targeting minority Shiite Muslims.


Yeah I think they'll stop.
Sure they will


It's not like there isn't already a history of violence lets just blame the US of A again and keep killing their own countrymen.


The Taliban are feeling the heat and they think that by killing even more of their own people if in fact they are really Pakistani Taliban that will solve their problems?

I love the logic.



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:01 PM
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It's not like there isn't already a history of violence lets just blame the US of A again and keep killing their own countrymen.


Nobody here is blaming America for inciting the Taliban's aggression.

That's obviously a fallacious argument.

What the US can't allow to happen though is the complete breach of Pakistan's sovereignty (via these cross border attacks) just because they're frustrated at their military's ineptness at combating the Taliban strongholds in Afghanistan.

That's just like saying Pakistan has the right to air strike New York if they discover a Taliban stronghold there that's complicit in attacks in Pakistan.


The Taliban are feeling the heat and they think that by killing even more of their own people if in fact they are really Pakistani Taliban that will solve their problems?


Pakistan is suffering a terrorist attack every other day in recent times, especially in the autonomous provinces.
American casualties in Afghanistan are nowhere the amount of civilian lives being claimed monthly by Taliban attacks within Pakistani territories.

They want the madness to end as much as anyone else, but these Drone Attacks and Special Forces raids don't help anyone.

Instead they continually claim the lives of innocent civilians and don't achieve any significant tactical gains in the Afghan war.

This is a Pakistani problem and it requires a Pakistani solution.

If America keeps pushing and prodding Pakistan on this issue and forcing them to accept illegal breaches of it's territory as a necessity, they could well loose a key ally in this conflict altogether.

Obama is already talking in hawkish tones about the "necessity" of Pakistan allowing the US military to march all over it's territories to combat the Taliban.

Nothing gives the US the right to conduct hostile operations in an Allied country without their permission.

That IS TERRORISM.

[edit on 5/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Obama is already talking in hawkish tones about the "necessity" of Pakistan allowing the US military to march all over it's territories to combat the Taliban.

Nothing gives the US the right to conduct hostile operations in an Allied country without their permission.

That IS TERRORISM.


The problem is the Taliban continuously running back and forth over the border, knowing the US isn't supposed to cross the boarder and pursue them. If Pakistan really put a effort into securing their border with Afganistan we wouldn't have this problem. The Pakistan border is Packistan's responsibility and the people crossing it are its citizens. So if they aren't going to control their own citizens and allow them to cross the boader and commit acts of war and terrorism, personally I could give a crap less about their sovereignty. Do your own work or someone will be forced to do it for you.

We keep hearing they are doing their best, but where are the results?

Perhaps if the US and its allies actualy saw some arrest of militants that matter, not the nobodies they drag in once and while just to say "look, we are helping".



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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If Pakistan really put a effort into securing their border with Afganistan we wouldn't have this problem. The Pakistan border is Packistan's responsibility and the people crossing it are its citizens.


Easier said than done mate.

Is the American-Mexican border any more secure? How many illegals flood in through there ever year?

You're acting like this problem is unique to Pakistan and brought on by sheer negligence.

Every developed country in the world is dedicating significant resources to securing it's porous borders.


personally I could give a crap less about their sovereignty. Do your own work or someone will be forced to do it for you.


Great more of the "International Sheriff" mentality.

Tell me, why aren't we conducting cross border raids into Mexico or policing Russia's or Italy's porous borders?

I'm sorry but you can't make ANY excuse in the world for that kind of blatant violation of sovereignty.

If you agree with that, you agree with the fact that Pakistan could do the same to the United States under the same circumstances and I'm sure you'd deny that as lawful.

No one has the right to just to move military assets across the territory of a neutral or allied nation without their permission.
That's just utter anarchy and perfect breeding ground for more conflicts to erupt in the world.


We keep hearing they are doing their best, but where are the results?


Likewise buddy.

How is Afghanistan improving? It's not. That's precisely the point.
Karzai's a dope (and smokes it too).
Causalities are on the rise.
And the troop surge is still yet to show results.

Both sides deserve blame for ineptness and lack of initiative to secure the region.



Perhaps if the US and its allies actualy saw some arrest of militants that matter, not the nobodies they drag in once and while just to say "look, we are helping"


Remind me....

When did we find OBL, Ayman Al-Zahiri, Mullah Omar, Baitullah Mehsud or any other high-ranking Taliban official?

Oh that's right, we haven't.

'Nuff Said.


[edit on 5/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
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If Pakistan really put a effort into securing their border with Afganistan we wouldn't have this problem. The Pakistan border is Packistan's responsibility and the people crossing it are its citizens.


Easier said than done mate.

Is the American-Mexican border any more secure? How many illegals flood in through there ever year?



Oh as if you would know!
OK Why don't you ask the people who actually live here


The majority of the Mexicans that come to the states are looking for a better life and the vast majority of them are catholic you don't see them killing other Catholics over religious issues like the Pakistani Muslim Taliban killing other Muslims. What was it again two attacks a week?

Apples and oranges
MATE


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posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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Oh as if you would know!
OK Why don't you ask the people who actually live here


Yeah it's just me claiming 500,000 illegal immigrants cross the Southern Borders ever year: ipsnews.net...


The majority of the Mexicans that come to the states are looking for a better life and the vast majority of them are catholic you don't see them killing other Catholics over religious issues like the Pakistani Muslim Taliban killing other Muslims. What was it again two attacks a week?


What difference does it make?

Sheesh you sure can bring up irrelevant points to dodge anything you can't refute.

They're STILL ILLEGAL. Hence they're violating America's sovereignty just as the American military crossing Pakistan's border violates Pakistan's sovereignty.

It doesn't matter whether they want to start a family or a start a terror cell, they're still both trespassing illegally across a border.

Apples and APPLES.

[edit on 5/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Is the American-Mexican border any more secure? How many illegals flood in through there ever year?


It isn't secure, and we know why. The drugs must flow so the banks can illegally launder the money and get richer. That does not mean it cannot be done.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraIf you agree with that, you agree with the fact that Pakistan could do the same to the United States under the same circumstances and I'm sure you'd deny that as lawful.


If the US knowingly harbors terrorists and does nothing about them and will not ask for or allow help in dealing with them, then I say they can forget about their sovereignty being respected aswell.


Originally posted by The Godfather of ConspiraBoth sides deserve blame for ineptness and lack of initiative to secure the region.


Who could possibly argue that.



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