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The Constitution Dies - To Thunderous Applause

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posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 12:45 PM
The Constitution Dies - To Thunderous Applause

Gee, you folks who thought Obama was the be-all and end-all to "solve" violations of The Constitution under President Bush:

A pair of bills introduced in the U.S. Senate would grant the White House sweeping new powers to access private online data, regulate the cybersecurity industry and even shut down Internet traffic during a declared "cyber emergency."

Senate bills No. 773 and 778, introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., are both part of what's being called the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which would create a new Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor, reportable directly to the president and charged with defending the country from cyber attack.

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[edit on 4/5/2009 by JacKatMtn]

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 01:06 PM
where's your messiah,now?

obama is as red as the day is long. the king is dead, long live the king.

so easily fooled by a pretty face, USA.

you should have all voted ron paul. there would have at least been a fighting chance, then.

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 01:23 PM

Originally posted by redhatty

Senate bills No. 773 and 778, introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V....

Why are we not surprised?

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 01:25 PM
'i care not for those who vote, only he who counts them - joseph stalin simply there was never a chane of ron paul getting in and i think its too late to save the masses.
us few who know and resist face two choices surrender or death, people will demand their freedoms to be taken away an the last free world the internet is now under threat.

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 01:55 PM
Well this is no real surprise. Despite having voted for GWB twice I certainly am no kool-aid drinker and was very critical of many things he did not the least of which was many provisions of the Patriot Act and powers given HSA and FEMA.
I know of many Obama supporters that were convinced there would be changes to correct those items under Obama and I always said no way.
Instead of returning our liberties that were endangered by those acts of GWB, Obama is simply continuing the power grab by allowing yet more anti-constitutiional legislation to be passed and signing it into law.
And as much as I admired and supported a great deal of Ron Pauls idealism, had he been elected I believe he would have changed his tone after a few days in office also. Why? because of the power of the Rockerfellers and those like them has amassed to the point of no correction by any man or group of people.
Many (including me) have suspected Big Brother would infiltrate and control the Internet eventually, taking away the last true bastion of freedom available to us currently in existence.

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 02:18 PM
I knew obama would be as big a sham as bush was.
There is no difference between the two, you cant trust anyone in government.
These people are loyal to their party platform, not to whats right. You have one guy saying yes the other saying no you dont ever see anyone saying "why cant we all just compromise".

Compromise, something that this very country was built on. The colonies would pass the constitution til a bill of rights were added. The bill of rights are all compromises that took a lot of discussion and debate to come up with. You cant get people to compromise anymore, its all democrat or republican, my way or the highway. When we lost the ability to compromise we lost our free country we lost our rights.

what did we expect anyway?
As soon as the party platforms came around there was no more compromise, get rid of the party get rid of the problem.

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:00 PM
reply to post by redhatty

Obama faints, spins, shoots. Basket!!!!
The crowd ROARS!!!!!
The loosing team leaves in discrace. Boo hoo

posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:54 PM
How many blankin' times have I said this blankin' blank?!? You blanking people blankin' deserve every blankin' thing you get. Call me a blankin' wack-job; call me a blankin' conspiracy nut; tell me I don't blankin' know what the blank I'm blankin' talking about?!? Oh yeah, you blankin' deserve every blankin' bit of what you blankin' get!!! You will all blankin' know what the blankin' definition of the word suffering is soon eblankin'nough, if not blankin' already, and I haven't the blankin' capacity to blankin' give a damn.

How's that for freedom on the internet?


posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 08:32 AM
reply to post by lagnar

You will never get anyone to shoulder up with you with all that blankity
blank trash.
Put some sugar in that mouth!

posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 10:22 AM

S. 778 A bill to establish, within the Executive Office of the President, the Office of National Cybersecurity Advisor.

As of this post the text of the bill has not been received from the GPO

S.773 A bill to ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve and maintain effective cybersecurity defenses against disruption, and for other purposes.

As of this post the text of the bill has not been received from the GPO

The link provided by the OP seems to be erroneous. Thomas does not have the text of the bill. But I am sure they will update as soon as they receive the text.

Try not to jump the gun and blame Obama for something that a senator introduces. There actually is a separation between the executive and legislative branches of government.

If you are worried about this legislation then I suggest that you write, call or email your representatives and or senators and tell them that you are against this bill.

Edit to add: I will update everyone with links to the text of these two bills as soon as they become available. I will also give more opinion on this legislation once I have read the text.

[edit on 4/6/2009 by whatukno]

posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by lagnar

You will never get anyone to shoulder up with you with all that blankity
blank trash.
Put some sugar in that mouth!

Star for you, as I totally agree...on the surface. It'll happen when it needs to bud. Besides, don't you mean dip my fingers in sugar?
I never use profanity...look at my posts. There's an ironic meaning to that post that hopefully didn't go over your head. The words we think are profane have no meaning at all without context.

The ones I want shoulder to shoulder with me already think the same way...and more I might add (they wouldn't have used "blank"), and they know it wasn't them I was talking to. I already have my life or death friends. What about you? Got anyone you can count on every single time you need to for whatever (universal) you might come up against?

We're about to have our last bastion of freedom stolen, and all you can think about is trying to convince someone to have your value system? Typical.

EDIT: Star for you too...WUK. Nice.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by lagnar]

posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 02:41 PM
ok people..for what its yuo really know how and why obama is president? It isnt because of his words of change and puppet acts prior to election. The word on the street, is the only reason obama was eelcted, was becuase people did want change , anything was better than bush, many african americans, that never even voted came out to vote. It wasnt necessarily because of his words fo change...african americans saw a huge change of hisotry to be made as well. That is all a fact. I dont mean to sound bias, and i am not racist, im just poitning out a fact of life and how things are.

posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 03:51 PM
Voting for some one because they are black isnt a very good reason to go out and vote. If the african american community's participation in this election was based only on the color of his skin then they should have stayed at home and done nothing.

Obama isnt fit to be president, Mccain wasnt either because they are both loyal to their party or to themselves. They arent loyal to the american people, if Obama was he would take our issues seriously.

posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 04:07 AM
reply to post by billybob

You should know most Americans' votes are not counted by the government. Research & watch documentaries (and read plenty of articles) about Diebold and the history of politics in the states of America. You don't have to be American to be fully-aware of the fact that this nation is not a democracy or place of fair national politics (which is a rigged game, anyway).

Why would anyone steal land & slaughter many native-inhabitants of it, then hold "open elections" for anyone to win? The U.S. government/big-bankers wouldn't dominate a country, and allow others to take it over. That's why they don't even bother counting all of the votes in this country.

CNN Exposes How ACORN Steals Votes For Democrats

FOX: Diebold Electronic Vote Fraud Confirmed

Google Video Link

Ron Paul Fraud! 'Diebold' Vote Machines Steal 2008 Primaries

[edit on 7-4-2009 by News And History]

posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 04:28 AM
reply to post by ziggy1706

We don't know how many African-Americans were even voting for Obama. Let's stop assuming they're all voting for black people, just because they share the same skin-tone or have common ancestors.

Only a racist African-American would judge someone based on their skin-color. We can't just assume they're dumb racists because the government-shills on TV reported that blacks love Obama. They don't know half of the African-American population.

posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 03:38 AM
reply to post by ziggy1706
Clearly not the case if you think of how many times Jesse Jackson tried his hand at it.

No, it certainly had more to do with his "message" and the "promises" he made along with it. If Jesse had tried Obama's strategy, and had the charisma and acting ability Obama has, he most certainly would have at least done better.

Too bad Obama's already been instructed as to how he's going to run this country - [into the ground] as it were. Or perhaps he's just motivated (in some way or by someone) or somehow believes it's right to deny every promise he made during his race.


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