Let me clarify: not all conspiracy theorists are nutjobs. There are quite a few cowards amongst the CT community and thus these guys will only talk a big game, but never play it.

My point is, however, that it is foolish to think that conspiracy theorists do not take these theories seriously. They obviously do. A few posts ago, somebody said the government would like nothing more than to take away our guns. He/she said it without providing a single bit of evidence to back it up. In other words, they desire such an outcome because it gives them meaning. The mere fact they would make such an allegation without backing it up with evidence shows how powerful of a reach conspiracy theories have.

No, not all conspiracy theorists are nutjobs. They don't need to be. All it took was a single man and a building came down, along with the lives of hundreds of people.

How many more will die before you realize there is no New World Order? There is no "homosexual agenda?" There is no "threat to sovereignty?" Our rights have not been violated?

Just another reason deluded websites such as this should be shut down.






EDIT: This was a joke by the way. All groups have nuts, though, I do wonder if he was registered here.

[edit on 6/4/2009 by C0bzz]

Horribly sad for the police officers who were killed, and their families.
Upsetting for CTer's as well. Been so many of these lately, it's hard to keep track!

I just wonder if there would've been another way for mom to evict junior?

I won't defend lil' Richard, at all, I'm only thinking that mother didn't know best in this case. Certainly, she must have been aware of his 'basement bunker' and his growing paranoid beliefs, and there must have been lots of tension leading up to the blow-up over bow-wow urinating on the rug.

Mom must have been at her wits-end over other things besides just the dog. Was Richard a free-loader? Sounds like he was stuck on himself, going to the gym, posting positive things about himself, yet negative things about others, when perhaps his time could have been better spent helping his mom out?

One possibly theory of her growing disdain for her own son, to be upset enough to want the police for help with her little tyrant. Because a mother doesn't suddenly call 911 due to a fight over the pet!

His entire lifestyle obviously displeased her. I see nothing but a shameful, disrespectful, ungrateful treatment of one's own mother, leading up to this tragedy.

dont mind rcjw,

he is a sympathizer of corrupt law enforcement and military.

he has a history of defending even the most guilty police, even the one's caught on tape clearly killing someone for no good reason, beating someone, etc. he has always been one to come up with oddball "explanations" as to why that incident occurred and how the officer is not necessarily so bad for blowing the innocent guys brains out, or locking the poor woman away for no good reason, etc.

im not trying to bash him, im beyond that point, im just stating a fact. he knows its true, he openly says the same thing. he just wrote what basicly means not all Nazi's are bad, and not all "Pigs" are bad. Last I checked, Pig was a word for a BAD COP, a corrupt one, not a normal police officer. Thus the derogatory name. I would never call a decent cop a pig, its disrespectful.

But apparently, not all "pigs" are bad now. great. but anyways.

I don't defend what the kid did, he was obviously mentally ill to an extent, was delusionally paranoid well beyond the fringe point. The fact that had had the AK-47 ready to go and shot the first two cops who walked into the front doorway is indication that he didnt hesitate at all. I dont care how crazy you are, deranged, you don't confidently blast away two random cops like that. To be honest the idiot shouldve cleaned up the dog piss, he'd be a free man and there'd be 3 more police officers on the street. But his psycho mom *I mean who lets their kid turn their house into a weapons cache/bunker, and then calls the cops over a dog piss argument?* It's like GEE, everything was cool with your vast arsenal of weaponry my son, but this has gone too far, clean the piss or im calling the cops.

My point is, even if *I* owned a rifle and was in a situation where I knew LEGIT that my rights were being violated and yada yada, I'd maybe defend myself, but realisticly, most people crumble when the cops roll in, because theres multiples of them, and what can you do against that? Plus the notion of going to prison forever, lethal injection, or dieing in a gunfight all rush to your head as you ask yourself DO I REALLY WANNA DO THIS THING? And 99% would back down and let the officers have their way. That 1% .. to which this kid belongs... well what can I say, they are some crazy MFers. Coldly efficient too. Had the vest, marine training, acted like the thing was a legit combat encounter in a warzone from the read of it.

I'm disappointed he didn't go down fighting. What a puss, he let them come in just because he got hit in the leg, despite knowing he had already fatally shot a number of cops. He has a vest on to protect vitals, what, he didnt expect an leg wound? You dont stop in a combat zone at war over a leg wound, you keep going and keep yourself alive. You dont give up to the enemy, and you dont stop fighting. This guy stop fighting who HE perceived to be the enemy after killing a number of them simply after receiving a leg wound. That is .. WEIRD. You'd think he would've fought until he was killed, or even killed himself, thats how these things typically end right. I guess the leg wound stung a little, I wonder what kind of police bullet/gun it was, to give up just like that. My point? If you're going to intentionally blow away a number of cops, you should be prepared to die or run for your life. You simply do not give up from a leg wound. The kid is nuts ...

[edit on 4/6/2009 by runetang]

Originally posted by runetang
I'm disappointed he didn't go down fighting. What a puss, he let them come in just because he got hit in the leg, despite knowing he had already fatally shot a number of cops. He has a vest on to protect vitals, what, he didnt expect an leg wound? You dont stop in a combat zone at war over a leg wound, you keep going and keep yourself alive. You dont give up to the enemy, and you dont stop fighting. This guy stop fighting who HE perceived to be the enemy after killing a number of them simply after receiving a leg wound. That is .. WEIRD. You'd think he would've fought until he was killed, or even killed himself, thats how these things typically end right. I guess the leg wound stung a little, I wonder what kind of police bullet/gun it was, to give up just like that. My point? If you're going to intentionally blow away a number of cops, you should be prepared to die or run for your life. You simply do not give up from a leg wound. The kid is nuts ...

If you value your life wouldn't you take the chance that your enemy will take you as a PoW and that hopefully someday you'll be released? Killing one or two more people wouldn't change the outcome of a war, why not take the chance of surviving?

[edit on 6-4-2009 by Leto]

WHo knows? Maybe he's going to go to jail for a while so he can write his Mein Kampf.

I think what is so interesting is how a LOT of people - MOST people i've spoken to - are getting the two incidents all confused. They think it was the 'conspiracy nut' who killed the folks at the immigrant center.

Now why is that? It reminds me of how everyone thought S. Hussain bombed the WTC.