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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 05:17 PM by Nirgal
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Yes. Cats and dogs are indispensable as long as they remain useful.
They remain useful until they are recycled as fertiliser.
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 05:36 PM by simonecharisse
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Seany, I am GLAD to hear that bluejays are still around where you are. I myself have not observed certain species where I am, in a long while. There
may be less of them to go around, likely due to the bird flu.
By the way, has anyone heard anymore about all the bats dying off, due to that white fungus around their noses? I vaguely recall, years back, on
CoastToCoastam, Major Ed Dames predicting killer fungus being a future problem. ( I saw on their website, that he is going to be on, this Thursday,
4-9-09).
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 06:24 PM by waterdoctor
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Dog goes, cats can stay. We have barn cats to keep down the rats, mice, gofers and rattle snakes. Cats are a wear item here, like brakes on a car
they just don't last long. Hawks, Owls, dogs, coyotes and cars take their toll. I have put our vets two kids through private school with spaying
cats.
During and after WW2 ally rabbit was what my grand father got served in Paris. Or as my dad has often said "never name something you may have to
eat".
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 07:05 PM by Lookingup
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The horses, dogs, and cats are going as long as I have a vehicle. If I had to walk/ride, the dogs and horses would go. All could be pack animals.
If things got really bad, a couple of horses would become dinner/jerky.
As far as cats, I wish my cats would hang out by the garden. I wouldn't mind the fertilizer if they used it as a sand box and they would keep the
Blue Jays from eating my tomatoes. As it is, I'll have to buy nets for the tomatoes.
Northern Raider, I think a lot of your description of cats pretty much applies to Humans: Unhygienic?--my cat would smell better after 30 days
without a bath than I would!
Disease carrying--check
Kills for pleasure--check
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 09:48 PM by HaTaX
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They would be gathered up anytime I'd leave the house without plans for return, they're a part of the family...
I have an AmStaff to help watch over us, and a Spaniel breed to catch small game dinner.
Animals are just so much more in tune with what's going on around them, along with a list of indispensable abilities. Just like guns, if ya got
'em, bring em.
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 10:20 PM by Snisha
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Without a doubt my dogs are a integral part of my bugout. Both of my Blue Weimaraners are trained to point quail and doves. They are not half bad at
being rabbit & squirrel dogs either. With a small amount of tweaking I could train them to scent track deer.
Besides their ability to bring dinner to the table the Weims(along with my Heinz 57 Junk Yard Dawg) make a hell of a perimeter defense. One of the
Weims weighs 120# & the other 88# and they all take no scat whatsoever from strangers.
As far as them being a possible source of protein(slaughtering them), this is beyond the pale as a viable possibility for me. I possess far too many
skills in regards to hunting, fishing and foraging to ever resort to that atrocity. That's just the way I roll.
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reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 10:58 PM by downtown436
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Depends on your pet. If it is chipped, well you have a problem. If it can't tolerate the elements, you have a problem. If it is out of your
control with no leash, you have a problem. If it doesn't come when you call it, you have a problem. If you need to hide from someone, and your pet
won't sit still, you have a problem. My dogs are extremely well trained, so I would bring them.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:11 AM by wonderworld
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reply to post by Seany
My concern is a barking dog or crying infant. this would draw attention to your Bug out location.
If they use heat seeking devices none of us can hide out long. Caves will be taken.
Does anyone know if they sell protective devices to hide from the heat seekers? or Night vision tips?
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:12 AM by smokehouseslim
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If any of you all were true survivalist you could live of the land for a very long period of time without consuming one iota of protein. Of course
theres always the looting of empty stores, but that could put one in harms way, as i'm sure others would be doing the same thing as they to would
have no idea how to really live off the land. Good luck with that
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:15 AM by wonderworld
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I'm a survivalist. Ive got it all covered except heat seeking devices and night vision optics.
I need some tips on how to avoid these. Any suggestions?
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:22 AM by wonderworld
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P.S. Besides the chipped dog. Do not drive your car to your Bug out location all new tires have RFID chip implants in the sidewalls, no cell phones,
laptops. Only a hand cranked radio.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:23 AM by smokehouseslim
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Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by smokehouseslim
I'm a survivalist. Ive got it all covered except heat seeking devices and night vision optics.
I need some tips on how to avoid these. Any suggestions? Really? then you could tell the difference berween a Bramble Berry & a Coccus
Sombulitus then?
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:31 AM by wonderworld
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No I dont know what a "Bramble Berry & a Coccus Sombulitus" are but Ive got the BOB that will kick some butt! I actually 4.
One with hunting and survival equiptment,
one with herbal antibiotics, first aid and Hygiene,
one with weather resistant and cold weather survival
and last but not least Food.
Yes they do weigh a lot. I live rural so hope I dont need to bug out but I'm ready for any emergency!
What is Bramble Berry & a Coccus Sombulitus?
I also dont have a chem suit or body armor. Kind of spendy. I may get some gas masks though.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:36 AM by smokehouseslim
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A Bramble Berry is simply a Black Berry & the Coccus is a form of Night Shade (Poisionous) That has a berry resembling a Black Berry. When I go out on
the State trails here walking & taking pics I only ever have a bottle of water for thirst my snacks come from Mother Nature.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:37 AM by Anuubis
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The brambleberry is in the raspberry family. Similar bushes and berries.
They usually grow in wetter areas than raspberries and blackberries.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:41 AM by Anuubis
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Actually a brambleberry is not a blackberry. They are in the same family but grow in wetter areas.
Wonderworld and i don't really have to worry about night shade, it doesn't grow to well up here in Washington and Idaho.
But what does this have to do with pets anyways?
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:46 AM by smokehouseslim
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Originally posted by Anuubis
reply to post by smokehouseslim
Actually a brambleberry is not a blackberry. They are in the same family but grow in wetter areas.
Wonderworld and i don't really have to worry about night shade, it doesn't grow to well up here in Washington and Idaho.
But what does this have to do with pets anyways? I'd much rather eat berries fruits nuts grains than my pet.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:49 AM by Anuubis
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Ya me too. I don't think ferret would taste to good.
My daughters chihuahua might taste like a burrito though
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:50 AM by smokehouseslim
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Ok maybe this post will work....My point was that I would rather eat berries/fruits/nuts/grains/ & whatever else the land has to offer than to eat my
pet.
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reply posted on 6-4-2009 @ 12:53 AM by Anuubis
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Originally posted by smokehouseslim
Ok maybe this post will work....My point was that I would rather eat berries/fruits/nuts/grains/ & whatever else the land has to offer than to eat my
pet.
I got your point in your post. When you quote someone click your cursor after the bracket where it says quote, then hit enter two or three times.
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