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reply posted on 30-4-2004 @ 03:18 PM by SkepticOverlord
1.Who filmed Neil Armstrong getting out of the space craft.
The remotely controlled camera on the lander leg.
2. There was 3 shadows on the astronauts implying there is another light source other than the sun.
Don't expect light in a vacuum to look the same as light in an atmosphere that you're used to. Light reflecting off the surface of the moon, and the lander are indeed valid and bright light sources.
3.The Lunar Car would not be able to fit in the apollo.
vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov... The lunar roving vehicle will be carried to the moon in the cargo compartment of the descent stage of the lunar module. To save space, the vehicle's frame will be hinged, with three segments folding together. The four wheels will be folded against the chassis. When the astronauts leave the lunar module for their extravehicular activities, one of them will release the lunar roving vehicle from its stowage compartment. Deployment will be semi-automatic. Springs will unfold the vehicle and its wheels, and they will lock together into the deployed position.
4. The speed of the astronauts defying gravity was inaccurate.
I don't recall them defying gravity.
5.The Apollo missions could have not past through the radiation belt. It would have killed all of the astronauts abored.
Wrong. The radiation is minimal and they passed through quickly. www.lpi.usra.edu... The Laser Ranging Retroreflector equipment is still be used today. It required human intervention by the Apollo 11 astronauts to calibrate the equipment on the moon for proper position. In short, someone needed to be there to set it up and confirm it was set up properly.


reply posted on 30-4-2004 @ 03:58 PM by jra
@ Zuzubar

It's not a well known fact. It's not a fact at all. It's a theory and a bad one at that. The evidence provided by you doesn't hold up well.

1. As far as I know, no one filmed Armstrong. The footage we generaly see is Aldrin. At least the photos i've seen were all of Aldrin. None were of Armstrong since he was taking all the photos.

2. Can you show me a photo of this? I have seen a lot of Photos from the moon, but I don't ever recall seeing one with multiple shadows.

3. You do know that the LRV folds up yes? Here are a few images of it, here and here and here

4. Not sure how to answer this one. I'm not even sure what you're talking about here exactly.

5. No the radiation would not have killed the astronauts. Not all radiation is instantly bad you know. The type of radiation in the Van Allen belts is proton radation. It can be blocked with a piece of wood. Unlike gamma radiation which is the kind you get from nuclear bombs. With that you need lead and lots of it.

to quote the guy who knows the most about the Van Allen belts:

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen


I suggest this site for your reading pleasure. It covers many things about the moon landings. www.clavius.org...


reply posted on 30-4-2004 @ 10:40 PM by Kano
Originally posted by Zuzubar
Actually if you remember they were jumping through the air. Jumping is a form of defying gravity. The radiation was dangerous and experts agree it could have killed them or at least make them seriously ill. The light can not be bended in 3 seperate directions. A moon would not bend light. There are many reasons and they can be found over the internet


Jumping is not a form of defying gravity, the experts do not agree, and noone is suggesting the light is being bent. I also don't recall any images with multiple shadows.

Now, here is my standard reply to these junk moonhoax threads:

Standard reply to Moon Landing threads

There is no 'evidence' against the moon landings that hasn't been solidly and repeatedly debunked.

A few sites:

www.clavius.org...

www.redzero.demon.co.uk...

www.badastronomy.com...

Or you could go to NASAs site and search on Moon Hoax.

Proof...
Now, on the other hand we have the fact that the Russians could tell the landings werent faked from the direction of the radio signals (they would have kicked up a fuss if they could disprove it). The fact that a couple hundred kilos of moon rocks were brought back and have been examined by thousands of geologists on Earth, all of whom can see that the rocks are completely unlike anything on earth and would be utterly impossible to create artificially. Also of course the fact that three missions placed Laser ranging reflection devices on the moon.

www.lpi.usra.edu...



There is also this picture of the Apollo 15 landing site by a lunar orbiter.

www.space.com...

I suggest you read those sites. Starting with badastronomy, and gain some insight into the flaws in your 5 points.


reply posted on 30-4-2004 @ 11:20 PM by SkepticOverlord
Zuzubar's linked image... I love this... Okay class... can anyone tell me why this photo does not prove what the moon hoaxers are saying? (It's painfully obvious)



reply posted on 1-5-2004 @ 03:03 PM by HowardRoark
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Zuzubar's linked image...

I love this...

Okay class... can anyone tell me why this photo does not prove what the moon hoaxers are saying?
(It's painfully obvious)



Uh, reflected light of the suit of the astronaut taking the picture? Film speed and exposure index? Am I close?
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