The Three Clinchers for Proof of Alien Life, page 3
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reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 10:31 PM by HeluvaStorm
Originally posted by skeptic_al
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post by jkrog08





1. The Nazca lines, these can be made without using aircraft and just using
fixed lengths of string and a handful of people. The scale and dedication
to task is impressive.
But we interpret them differently, big head, big eyes, must be a Alien.
If fact, it's not much different to how children draw their parents today,
stick figures with giant round heads and big eyes.

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Are you implying children made the Nazca lines?


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 10:44 PM by jkrog08
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Yea I've always interpreted the "strip" as just a flat surface,possibly for a smooth,even landing of very large craft.Not really a runway,just a spot to sit down.


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 10:46 PM by jkrog08
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Yea it just goes back to what I said in my OP about people(some)not wanting or willing to shift their paradigm out of fear or whatever.But you know what I could be wrong we all(believers)could be..............I doubt it.


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 11:36 PM by son of PC
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I kinda gag at your post. Didn't you ever read Poe. My posts to G. Noory are one liners. He reads them, or Tommy does.


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:14 AM by Funshinez
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I think you're really off base in judging people who question the evidence you're presenting. It's illogical to assume we're the only intelligent life in the universe, yes. I don't think anyone would argue with that. But that's not what this thread is about.

You made this thread to prove alien life has been here since the beginning of intelligent life on this planet. The evidence you presented simply does not prove, at all, that any extra terrestrial life has visited our planet no matter what you WANT to believe. It's all highly subjective.

I know I would love to believe that something extrodinary has happened with aliens in our history, but your "clinchers" just aren't.


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:25 AM by jkrog08
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I wasn't bashing anyones opinions,I just made a thread with very strong events that are the hardest to disprove,infact the only disproving as been interpretation of one of the three.I welcome all opinions and like usual(and like I said in my OP) I invite all to come discuss,believers and skeptics alike.


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:31 AM by jkrog08
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No problem,that is the reason I created this thread.I wanted it to be kind of a "combo" of evidence and events so even people who are not familiar with the large ongoing saga of believers vs. skeptics can see.I wanted it to be something that at least subdued the argument of "do you believe" so we can concentrate on "why are they here,how long,and for what" and so we can move on and try to get this "universal,UFO on White House lawn piece of evidence".I guess also I want this thread to kinda' be a 'beacon' so maybe some neutral members or viewers can get easy to understand and read evidence from the "believers"side.

[edit on 4/5/2009 by jkrog08]


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:47 AM by Funshinez
Originally posted by jkrog08
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post by Funshinez



I wasn't bashing anyones opinions,I just made a thread with very strong events that are the hardest to disprove,infact the only disproving as been interpretation of one of the three.I welcome all opinions and like usual(and like I said in my OP) I invite all to come discuss,believers and skeptics alike.

Interesting.

Originally posted by jkrog08
reply to post by Skinon



Yea it just goes back to what I said in my OP about people(some)not wanting or willing to shift their paradigm out of fear or whatever.But you know what I could be wrong we all(believers)could be..............I doubt it.


Darn those fearful ignorant sheep not willing to shift their paradigm to my belief system.

As far as none of your other proof being contested, I agree the star map is somewhat compelling but it's still all stuff you have to take at face value. All it is, is a nice story that meshes with your preconceived notions. There's no reliable source to back it up. The NASA recordings are interesting but linking to a youtube video of supposed NASA recordings is NOT proof. Anyone could have made those recordings for any reason. Astronauts could have even made them, they could authentically be from NASA but what if the astronauts did them as a joke? We just don't know from a youtube video. Both of these things lack real source material that can undergo scrutiny.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I want to believe in this stuff but wanting to believe and having a convenient story just isn't enough. Show me the fossilized remains of those aliens that the cavemen drew. There must have been at least one crash right? Or how about you address my original concern of the massive gap in documenting these alien visitors? Why is this all prehistory and post roswell?


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:47 AM by morefiber
Again, what about Oannes and the Dogan.

It's just strange that with entire cultures undiscovered due to our incomplete knowledge of history. There is an account of a creature that can only be called an alien, teaching mankind civilization in one of the main places where civilization started.
Here is the account, I copied from mindspring.com. Just Goggle Oannes, and you find this in many locations. It is written by a Babylonian priest from the 13th century B.C., and talks about the start of Sumerian civilization, right after the great flood.

"At first they led a somewhat wretched existence and lived without rule after the manner of beasts. But, in the first year after the flood appeared an animal endowed with human reason, named Oannes, who rose from out of the Erythian Sea, at the point where it borders Babylonia. He had the whole body of a fish, but above his fish's head he had another head which was that of a man, and human feet emerged from beneath his fish's tail. He had a human voice, and an image of him is preserved unto this day. He passed the day in the midst of men without taking food; he taught them the use of letters, sciences and arts of all kinds. He taught them to construct cities, to found temples, to compile laws, and explained to them the principles of geometrical knowledge. He made them distinguish the seeds of the earth, and showed them how to collect the fruits; in short he instructed them in everything which could tend to soften human manners and humanize their laws. From that time nothing material has been added by way of improvement to his instructions. And when the sun set, this being Oannes, retired again into the sea, for he was amphibious. After this there appeared other animals like Oannes."
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