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Women- are they the goverments secert agent?

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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by deathpoet69


yes women like that i respect who will fight, you wouldn't see a western woman do that

[edit on 11-4-2009 by deathpoet69]


Oh really?

Think I stated in an earlier post that I would most certainly fight to protect the freedoms of this nation. And I know plenty of women that would as well. Stop with the over generalizations before you get a headache...




posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:12 PM
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No, I don't dislike women, I dislike people who would rather not think objectively about things, and close their minds to an opposing viewpoint because of their feelings.


I said I would reply to this - and I guess I am - sorta

I've been putting it off all day - and finally I realized why - it's because I dislike people who would rather not think objectively about things, and close their minds to an opposing viewpoint because of their feelings

but also, to be honest, yesterday morning I woke up believing: I can change the world - one misogynist at a time

this morning I woke up believing: I am a moron

:-)

sucked the wind right out of my sails

you haven't listened to one thing anyone has said in this thread - reading through it again - you keep repeating your examples - but you won't even take a good look at your own examples

it's not an Even-Steven universe Edrick - and 50-50 is not the same thing as fair

there are reasons behind all those figures - what could I possibly say to make you see those decisions - those outcomes - aren't just about the numbers?

what could I say to you that you would even listen to - considering I'm a woman?

bowing out -

interested to hear where you go with all this - if you have anywhere else to go



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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I said I would reply to this - and I guess I am - sorta

I've been putting it off all day - and finally I realized why - it's because I dislike people who would rather not think objectively about things, and close their minds to an opposing viewpoint because of their feelings

but also, to be honest, yesterday morning I woke up believing: I can change the world - one misogynist at a time

this morning I woke up believing: I am a moron


Well, if you are going to give up that easily...


you haven't listened to one thing anyone has said in this thread - reading through it again - you keep repeating your examples - but you won't even take a good look at your own examples


Yes I have, and Yes... I have.


it's not an Even-Steven universe Edrick - and 50-50 is not the same thing as fair


So are you saying that mandating an equal representation of women in the workplace is Fair, but Mandating an equal representation of men as primary child care custody holders is not?

Your hypocrisy is frighting.


what could I say to you that you would even listen to - considering I'm a woman?


Saying that you are sorry is a nice start.

And realizing that any claim you have to being oppressed, downtrodden, or a victim is merely your attempt to retain the upper hand.

-Edrick



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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Saying that you are sorry is a nice start.


for what?

this ought to be good...



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
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Saying that you are sorry is a nice start.


for what?

this ought to be good...


you asked me what you could say that I would listen to... And I would listen to an apology.

Secondy Second.

-Edrick



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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you asked me what you could say that I would listen to... And I would listen to an apology.


now, this is fun

:-)

but Edrick - for what?



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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now, this is fun

:-)

but Edrick - for what?


How about for your presumption of my Misogony.

or, how about for giving up so easily... you do yourself a disservice in that.

: )

-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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How about for your presumption of my Misogony.


oh, Edrick - so much to say... :-)

no - I wasn't being presumptuous

and to be fair - I never actually said you were a misogynist - I only implied it :-)

but, I'll tell you what - since it seems that I've insulted you somehow (somehow) if you go back through this thread, and apologize to every single person in this thread that you insulted - for each and every instance that you insulted them

and then apologize to women - in general - just for being so snotty

in the morning, when I come back - if it looks like you got it all covered - I'll be able to see that I had it all wrong - and I will apologize - promise

I always apologize when I realize I've made a mistake


or, how about for giving up so easily... you do yourself a disservice in that. : )


that was no disservice - I was doing myself a favor

that was just pure self indulgence back there

now Edrick - that part was actually amusing :-)

and with a smiley and everything

see - arguing doesn't have to be so joyless - does it?

seriously though - even if you made one big fat blanket apology (because - misogyny aside - you were a little bit rude) I would still apologize

I would apologize for implying that you were somehow less the egalitarian gentleman that you really are

deal?



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 01:28 AM
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yes women like that i respect who will fight, you wouldn't see a western woman do that

That woman is a Tamil Tiger suicide bomber. A terrorist. To fulfil the mission for which she has been trained, she will blow herself and many innocent bystanders to pieces.

If you are a religious man, get down on your knees and thank whatever gods you pray to that western women are not (on the whole) like that.



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 01:35 AM
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no - I wasn't being presumptuous


Yes, you were.


and to be fair - I never actually said you were a misogynist - I only implied it :-)


Yeah, I'll take an apology for that too.


but, I'll tell you what - since it seems that I've insulted you somehow (somehow) if you go back through this thread, and apologize to every single person in this thread that you insulted - for each and every instance that you insulted them.


Can't find One instance... would you be so kind as to quote my "Presumed" insults?


and then apologize to women - in general - just for being so snotty


The truth is not snotty.

You may Feel that I am being snotty... but that is just your FEELINGS and not the truth.

Just speaking the truth here...


seriously though - even if you made one big fat blanket apology (because - misogyny aside - you were a little bit rude) I would still apologize

I would apologize for implying that you were somehow less the egalitarian gentleman that you really are

deal?


I was offering my viewpoint, and was vilified.

I defend myself, and suddenly I am the bad guy?

No Deal...

I never said anything derogatory about women.

I never stated a hatred of women.

Prove me wrong.... Go ahead.... Do it.


-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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You may Feel that I am being snotty... but that is just your FEELINGS and not the truth.


I can't help myself Edrick - you know how we women are - all emotional and everything

but, I should say - calling snottiness the truth is not exactly camouflage

regardless - I'm guess I'm not apologizing - because I was only speaking the truth

apparently



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 02:13 AM
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I can't help myself Edrick - you know how we women are - all emotional and everything


Yes, I know... that is why I have been so patient with you.


but, I should say - calling snottiness the truth is not exactly camouflage


Snotty means conceited or arrogant.

My statements were true.

Therefore, your label of "Snotty" is By Definition... Incorrect.


regardless - I'm guess I'm not apologizing - because I was only speaking the truth


Hardly...

Allow me to give you a clear example:


Saying that you are sorry is a nice start.

for what?

this ought to be good...

How about for your presumption of my Misogony.


I never actually said you were a misogynist - I only implied it :-)



Presumption: an assumption that is taken for granted

Imply: express or state indirectly

I never SAID that you *said* that I was a misogynist...

I clearly said that you PRESUMED that I was a misogynist.

You stated that you IMPLIED that I was a misogynist.

And when one implies something, then one has that assumption as an axiomatic belief.

So, as you can see, you are not even arguing the point.. you are arguing a new, manufactured point in an attempt to make yourself look smarter than you are.... or an attempt to make me look foolish.

How can I have a rational debate with someone who does not even know what simple words mean, or who changes the meanings of questions she is asked, before she answers them?


regardless - I'm guess I'm not apologizing - because I was only speaking the truth


The "Truth" that you are speaking of, is your presumption that I am a Misogynist.

I do not hate women, and have stated nothing in the entirety of this thread that could be construed as a hatred of women.

You are assuming, that your Assumptions, are the truth... when they are not.

MY truth, is based on solid scientific documented evidence, WHICH I HAVE PROVIDED.

Do you see how wrong you are? or am I going to have to spell it out for you again... because you seem to be having some trouble with this simple concept.


So, just for purposes of argument...

What is it, that *I* said (provide quotes) that makes you *believe* that I hate women?


-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 02:42 AM
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I'll tell you what - since it seems that I've insulted you somehow (somehow) if you go back through this thread, and apologize to every single person in this thread that you insulted - for each and every instance that you insulted them

and then apologize to women - in general - just for being so snotty.

Well said, Spiramirabilis!

And when Mister Edrick has done apologizing to women, he had better get down on his knees to men, too. In purpoting to speak for us, he makes us all into women-hating male chauvinists who want to turn the real world into a labour camp for half its inhabitants, and an Arabian Nights masturbation-fantasy for the other half.

I am a grown man. How dare the likes of him presume to speak for me?

Tell me, Edrick - you who had the unbelievable gall, in an earlier post, to equate women with children - do you think it right that women should have unrestrained access to sexual fulfilment? Or is that, too, for men only?



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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So, just for purposes of argument... What is it, that *I* said (provide quotes) that makes you *believe* that I hate women? -Edrick


just about everything you've said in this thread - so far

and I'm not providing quotes - it would be easier if you just hit the posts button at the bottom of your last post

on that note - I'm done for the evening - nice chatting with you Edrick

I think we've accomplished all we're gonna



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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I am a grown man. How dare the likes of him presume to speak for me?


What makes you think that I am PRESUMING to speak FOR you... I speaking for myself, it should be CLEAR who it is that speaks for you.

And with all due respect, you are not acting like a grown man.

Why do you defend those who are "Equal" enough to defend themselves?

Do you think of them as children that need your protection?


Tell me, Edrick - you who had the unbelievable gall, in an earlier post, to equate women with children - do you think it right that women should have unrestrained access to sexual fulfilment? Or is that, too, for men only?


It depends entirely upon what you mean by "Unrestrained Access"

Are you talking about... Female teachers screwing their 14 year old students?

Women stealing men's sperm and impregnating themselves?

Are you saying that women should be able to do these things?

Are you saying that men CAN do these things without reprisal?

You need to phrase your arguments a little better.


-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:14 AM
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just about everything you've said in this thread - so far


It is real easy to make claims and not back them up...

You DO give up too easy.


and I'm not providing quotes - it would be easier if you just hit the posts button at the bottom of your last post


Look, if you cant find an example of my supposed misogyny... that is fine...

I can't either.

The burden of proof lies with the believer... that would be you.

-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:18 AM
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sometimes it's a matter of quitting because I'm too tired to be polite

or, even a lot worse than just not polite

nite nite Edrick

quit your whining and let it go



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:18 AM
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When i got home from work the other day, I got out of the car and put out the garbage; as collection is the next day!
Upon entering the family home my wife immediately reminded me that tonight was infact garbage night, and could I please make sure its out.
Little did she know, it was already done!!

What I ask is: Is it possible that my wife leads a double life? Working for the recycling interests of the government? Controlling my every move to ensure fruition of the illuminatis agenda???



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:22 AM
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sometimes it's a matter of quitting because I'm too tired to be polite

or, even a lot worse than just not polite

nite nite Edrick

quit your whining and let it go


Nothing further to add to the argument then?

Fine by me....

If you are incapable of backing up your claims, you should not say them in the first place.

Oh, and Sweet Dreams little monkey.

-Edrick



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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Female teachers screwing their 14 year old students?

Women stealing men's sperm and impregnating themselves?

Amazing the way your mind works.

I say 'unrestrained access to sexual fulfilment' and you visualize cohabitation with minors. That's clinical evidence of obsession, it seems to me.

And 'sperm theft'? Is that like shenkui?


I suppose you got this tripe from the divorced dads' messiah, Glenn Sacks. I rather like this quote from the court ruling that upset him so much:


when plaintiff 'delivered' his sperm, it was a gift…There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request.

If you don't want women 'stealing' your precious sperm, O Furious Bunnyrabbit, don't have sex with them. What did you think sex was for? Fun? :shk:

You must be younger than I thought. Better ask teacher to tell you about the birds and the bees. Of course, she might rape you...

[edit on 12/4/09 by Astyanax]



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