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Originally posted by Anomen
Its weird how people are giving all of the attention in the world to pointless topics about some dude who can create portals or something weird like that... but the real important things get overlooked.
For those of you who don't know about it, let me introduce you to possibly the last thing you may ever know about the Internet; The Conficker Virus.
Don't just roll your eyes and say "oh man... another worm"... because this worm actually has the capability to destroy the Internet as we know it overnight. The Conficker virus is not your conventional virus. Its a megaworm designed to attack specifically the Microsoft Windows Operating System. It infiltrates your computer, blocks your virus software from retrieving updates, blocks you from accessing web pages such as Microsoft's Update page which pretty much makes it impossible for you to remove the virus.
Some other symptoms include but are not limited to:
account lockout/ policies being reset
domain controllers responding slowly to client requests
congestion of local area networks.
Once on your computer, the worm then starts its real dirty work. It attacks the node your Internet service is based out of infecting every computer that is also connected to that particular node. The virus then spreads through every means possible. Have a thumb drive? the second you plug it into an infected computer the virus attaches itself to the thumb drive and whatever doomed computer you plug that thumb drive into afterwards is now infected along with the entire network that particular computer is connected to as well... and this is all done silently.
The scary part of this virus is once its in... It sends for update information on its own... meaning that the millions of computers affected world wide by this virus are under the control of a single commander. He hasn't yet, but when the person behind the creation of this virus feels the need to absolutely devastate the Internet, all he has to do is send out the order and he will bring millions of computers to his mercy.
so you're thinking... how has this person not been caught yet? Microsoft has a 250,000 dollar bounty on the creaters head who is suspected to be based in china somewhere.
"What the April 1 update did was simple: It provided instructions for linking up with the thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of new nodes registered by Conficker.c over the last few weeks, effectively growing the size of the p2p botnet to a point where it can not be stopped."
for more info please see the gizmodo news article.
some information about this virus:
how to tell if you're infected:
People... this is far more than just an April fools joke now... this is real and the entire Internet is at stake.
(visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 4-4-2009 by Anomen]
Originally posted by Helig
I have little doubt that this bug has nothing to do with updating anti-virus because most of the folks who get hit with things like this probably don't even know how to install anti-virus software let alone maintain and update their operating systems. By and large the prey of virus writers and their ilk are the lowest common denominator, the soccer mom who is so afraid of her computer that she has to ask her 7 year old son to turn it on and off for her.
.i know a lot of governments who would be pretty happy with a tool like this!!
I can almost assure you that most governments and especially the United States Government have no desire to kill the internet overnight for any of the myriad of imagined reasons you will no doubt see in this thread. If the internet ceased to function in say the US then you can count so many businesses as down for the count because their DC, NYC and LA offices suddenly lost their VPN links. Think the stock market has dropped in the past few years much, it would rocket downward so fast you wouldn't have time to evacuate your lunch.
Government get their money from taxes, if the people aren't making money then they aren't paying taxes and thus some suit on the hill goes without his expensive meals and even more expensive hookers; in short if we sink they sink and vice versa.
Originally posted by aero56
Excuse me? I have been hit by this virus. My computer was well "protecteod" with anti virus software, but it didn't stop this virus! McAfee didn't catch it, nor did Xoft.............
Originally posted by v3_exceed
ok, Not to bash your opinion here, but the whole point of using unix based operating systems is to be able to defend against these kinds of floods.
I'm thinking your not familiar with just how much internet backbone there really is, if you think it can be flooded at all. True a million machines hitting a specific location could cause things to slow down, but only until the filters kick in and either "Tar pit" the attacking ip's or simply deny access. This kind of attack could take out your average website, but not any real link provider.
The way these floods generally work, is a windows box sends a small packet of information crafted in such a way to request a large packet of information back. The target system is so busy replying with large packets that it is unable to respond to regular web site requests, thus a denial of service. So lets consider that you preemptively tell your *nix system not to respond to those requests. Tada! website is still use able. As the system is generally being sent small packet with a request for a large packet, a *nix system can handle a whole lot of small packets without breaking a sweat.
So unless a person is naive enough to use a windows based system for a mission critical server, there is really not a whole bunch to worry about.
Thanks for reading.
How big is the Conficker threat?
The general consensus seems to be that approximately 3 million computers are infected on any given day. The number 15 million gets thrown around a lot as well, but that number includes computers that were infected and then scrubbed clean of the malware.
Originally posted by aero56
It downloaded on it's own, and started taking over.
Originally posted by sc4venger
I agree with you, but not on all points. You are not safer under unix if we are talking about dos or ddos attacks, yes unix is better for serving various services but we are talking about a botnet of millions of computers, not 10,000.
You cannot tar pit millions of requests per second coming from everywhere on the planet.. we know so little about this virus that it could be much worse than simply sending packets constantly.. what if it hammers pop/imap servers? ftp? what if the virus has the ability to flood an array of different services?
[edit on 5-4-2009 by sc4venger]