There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government

the problem with a one world government is the process of getting there. the poor people get the crap end of the stick and get killed in the process. thanks. do you want to be part of the ones who die in the process. you haven't seen anything yet. who do you think is behind all this one world government crap? guess who. the roman catholic church. thats who. they never lost power. they evolved with time and just hide themselves better. they hide behind religion and a web of secret societies, royal bloodlines and families of the super rich, and governmental organizations created by them and thier partners to further their agenda for a one world government.

its so obvious. i don't know why people are so purplexed at why the world is the way it is. if its not an act of nature, its a conspiracy.

its like a big spygame controlled by the the creators of an ancient religion who created most of the worlds religions as they expanded their territories for thousands of years.

just take a look at the mormons. they saw how well the roman catholic church was doing with religious control and said to themselves that why don't we make up our own religion. it works good for them. so im gonna make up my own little following of people. that has happened all throughout history. some were more successful than others. leaders are usually very lazy and figure out ways to get other people to do the work for them. why not take god out of context and make some stupid elaborate story with lots of fear and control in it.

just take a look at international spy and espionage experts. who do you think they work for? thats right. the roman catholic church, people. they may be taking orders in a "need to know" chain of command, pyramid shape bussiness model, but all lead up to the cardinals, jesuits, to the jesuit general, and to the pope.

now you all know who to blame and why i don't go to church and do my best to tell people to stop blame the puppets in our government or anyone elses government.

"1) War Would End

2) Poverty & Disease Would End

3) Over-Population Would End

4) Violence Would End

5) Religious Extremism Would End"

War will never end, as long as human beings live alongside other human beings who are:

a) different from them

or

b) in disagreement with them


The way you make a world free of violence/war is by making one single people with no individuality or character. That is the only way I can foresee a world without violence, as humans don't get along with each other and never have. Violence is a natural reaction, and in the end, the ultimate judgment of right and wrong. If I murder you, your side of the story doesn't mean much does it?

Religious fanaticism follows in the same vein as violence and war, as long as people think they are truly the righteous ones, the non righteous will suffer.

Poverty and disease are again, natural agents which occur throughout the world. Those who are best naturally rise to the top and the lesser folks fall to the bottom, it's nature. Is it cruel and sad? Absolutely, but I don't see lions taking too much time out of their day to cry for slaughtered gazelles. Our species progresses because the individuals better suited to survive prosper, it's simple evolution. Eliminating this agent creates a stagnation in human evolution.


I personally despise the idea of a one world government, and truly feel "the government that governs best, governs least". Leave me alone with my family and my rights, why is that so much to ask? Big government leads to the invasion of personal privacy and the destruction of civil liberties. A government the size of a potential one world government would spell the end for any idea of freedom.

Originally posted by depmode21
reply to post by UrsusMajor

 

There has never been a one world government in today's times. So don't try to bring up history because there is no history for this type of operation.

If you wanna bring up the Roman Empire, then obviously you missed out on 2000 years of globalization.

Our world is extremely different than the Roman times and even to the Nazi regime. Even when the Nazi's were trying to create a one world government, they felt major opposite from the other global powers mainly the US.

Like I've said before, there would need to be a unification of all the global powers in the world... That is the US, UK, EU, Russia, China, etc.

This unification is happening exactly at this moment.

Maybe no perfect emulation of a NWO history....but certainly patterns have been tried (Hitler, Napoleon, Nero etc.) and have increased since the beginning of time. ALL created from the same template but because of the advent of computers and global communication, this is the only time that it might actually work. It is a pattern cut from the same quilt, essentially. Or a new statue cut from the same quarry stone.

[edit on 3-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

If this putz thinks that a 'one world government' is soooo stinking great then why not move to one of these countries out there that believe in totalism, communism, socialism, facsism etc. Saddly, there's plenty to choose from. I kinda like my freedom thank you and will bloody-well defend it if I have to!
I find it ironic that ONLY in countries that promote freedoms do we hear of such tripe!

There's NOTHING new about the "N"WO. A repackaged sales-advertising campaign of the same old secrecy-based CRAP does not a real NWO make. I can't believe anything short of Contact (obviously with the RIGHT beings) would result in enough global consensus to begin a viably new way of life... though not with an actual world government or anything resembling one most can imagine now.

Variety truly is the spice of life. There can be peaceful coexistence along with civilized, friendly enough competition among nations. How many people would be willing to forsake their national, regional and local identities in favor of some bland universal sameness? A truly, fully totalitarian global government can never have enough popular support to work. I still refuse to poop bricks over the matter.

Good Luck with that, what half of the world do you want?

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I agree.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
What "universal standard" are you seeking?

One that aligns with the views of the people.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Have civil liberties and freedom in the U.S. increased or diminished with the expansion and consolidation of the federal government, e.g. "Homeland Security" (I love that name!), the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, executive power abuses, domestic surveillance, constitutional rights, federal bankster bail-outs, etc?

lol, you're talking about the government being involved in every aspect of our lives.
I agree, that is not good.
But you fail to see that a one world government would not have to be like that.

I'm talking about a universal government that doesn't contradict itself, not an all powerful government that tells us when to sleep.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
What makes you think global government -- even larger government by a smaller group of individuals -- would reverse this trend? It would only exacerbate it.

So, think about the state of Florida. Imagine that Florida was the only American state. Would the government there be better just because it includes less people? Now let's add a couple dozen states. Is it dictating us yet? Could we add 50 more states? At what point does it become an evil maniacal monster?

We should be worried about the Government's POWER.
Not the idea of it being consistent or universal .

A government that governs two people could have too much power.
A government that governs six billion people could have too little power.

This is why I initially said it matters what kind of world Government we are talking about.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
If politics and government can't be eliminated, they should at least remain local.

The power of enforcement is local, the consistency is universal.
Sounds like a good system to me...

No.
There is nothing wrong with a one world society. There are plenty of things wrong with a one world goverment, biggest flaw being corruption.

Originally posted by mikerussellus
If this putz thinks that a 'one world government' is soooo stinking great then why not move to one of these countries out there that believe in totalism, communism, socialism, facsism etc. Saddly, there's plenty to choose from. I kinda like my freedom thank you and will bloody-well defend it if I have to!
I find it ironic that ONLY in countries that promote freedoms do we hear of such tripe!

Totalitarianism? Communism? Socialism? Fascism?
What do they have to do with a one world government?
You bought the hype. Congrats.

Is it not possible for there to be a one world Democracy?
Not that we have a Democracy to begin with, but using the broad sense of the word...


The internet is leading the way to a universal standard.
Universal culture, universal music, universal art, etc...
Wouldn't it also be nice to have universal laws?
Why should it be accepted to do something in one country and not in another?

Just don't buy the hype of "One world government = bad".
It doesn't have to be...

Originally posted by caballero
No.
There is nothing wrong with a one world society. There are plenty of things wrong with a one world goverment, biggest flaw being corruption.

If nukes were fired off at every single country except America, after the dust cleared, we would have a one world government.
Would the percentage of corruption rise just because it's the only government?


Your vision of a one world government is one filled with corruption.
But it doesn't have to be.

reply to post by depmode21


1) War Would End

False. Even within america thousands upon thousands have been killed in the streets, to the point of it being called 'gang wars'.

2) Poverty & Disease Would End

False. Look around you, is there still poverty in the UNITED states? YEs.
How about disease?

3) Over-Population Would End

Overpopulation is a lie. Check it on wiki: divide all acres of australia by the human population to see we could all live on australia with a quarter acre and leave the rest of the world uninhabited.

4) Violence Would End

You're kidding right?

5) Religious Extremism Would End

False. Religious extremism is bred in areas of extreme poverty and lack of education and well being. It's very profitable.

I believe some day we may see a global connnection through the internet, but it would be based on mutual co-operation, ethics, intelligence, sustainability, etc etc,

all of which is impossible under capitalism, which is willing to sacrifice even the planet in search for profit.

We need to return to a state where life is sacred, and we treat it with respect.
As long as there's property and profiteers, we will not see the society we know deep within is possible.

Sorry, but global governance is a very bad idea for the majority of the people (95%)...

If anyone is wondering why these pro-NWO messages are popping up everywhere it's called : Fusion Centers. Where disinformation agents are trained / employed.

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I do believe World War 3 will happen. The are now justed setting up the stage.

Do people truly think we will all live in harmony in a global society? We cant even live together in our own country and acheive peace and prosperity.

There will be only one appointed Dictator. I wonder who that will be?

if you think the whole world run and controlled like europe or even worse russia is a good thing they just can not fathom the kind of person you are.

As a concept i tend to agree with you, a One World Goverment would make more sense and ensure that the planet is managed properly; i think its in our nature to war but we might be able to scale it down somewhat.

The kicker as i see it, depends on the people in charge not putting their own interests first, as the saying goes "we are all equal but some are more equal than others"; do you really think the power brokers would give it up?

Greed will be our doom.

Originally posted by TruthParadox
So, think about the state of Florida. Imagine that Florida was the only American state. Would the government there be better just because it includes less people? Now let's add a couple dozen states. Is it dictating us yet? Could we add 50 more states? At what point does it become an evil maniacal monster?

As soon as it overstepped the United States Constitution's Tenth Amendment: All powers not granted to the federal government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states and to the people.

Sorry, but advocating for an even larger global behemoth government that's not answerable to anyone is a step in the wrong direction.

Originally posted by depmode21
In response to criticism about over-population, you guys should really read what I wrote about it in terms of morality. Perhaps I should have not labeled over-population and labeled it as one of the roots of crime and poverty.

Remove poverty and you remove a lot of crime, because a lot of crimes are performed by people who are so poor they become desperate. Poverty causes stress, anxiety, depression and despair which all result in desperation and they all work together as a recipe for crime.

What if the gov had said to the people, "we are going to hire every person that loses their job and give them free access to education, job training, health care, and we are going to make sure you don't loose your home?
How much would it cost? 1.6 trillion? I doubt it. Would the economy have gotten back on track? I think so. Would GM be facing bankruptcy? I doubt it. Would all those banks and financial institutions have failed? I don't think so. Would this many people have lost their jobs, I don't think so. But NOOOOO, the gov through 1.6 trillion to the rich. Trickle up economics would have been a far better way to spend the money. Put the money in the hands of the people. Save the people, and the banks would do just fine.

But then again, I'm a dreamer, not an economist, so I am probably wrong.

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If that many nukes went off at the same time there wouldnt be an America anymore. Nuclear winter.

I stand by what I said a one world government is a horrible idea, we cant even manage the problems of the world we run today. Our govenments have their own agenda they are no longer by the people or for the people, A few greedy leaders in the world both religious and political have caused more violence and bloodshed than hitler and stalin, and we want to give these people complete control?

Face it we are too immature to handle a one world society, and until we are ready to unify we are better off the way we are. While we still have some fighting chance.

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1.have you ever heard of civial wars?were running out of food and water
eventually there will be war for them

2.do you want to be controlled by the antichrist?

3.are microchips fun?