There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government

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posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by depmode21
Now, this might cause a bit of controversy but if I was part of a secret group that could influence the world's events, I would certainly try to stage some sort of Extraterrestrial contact with the world that would challenge people's beliefs.

This has already been extensively discussed, if not planned. The Report From Iron Mountain and Project Blue Beam both involve phony extraterrestrial invasions.


Originally posted by depmode21
Now ask yourself if such an event happened, would the suicide bomber have still bombed the subway due to his religious beliefs?

Now ask yourself if the London 7/7 bombings were really carried out by religious extremists? Can you say "false flag terrorist attack?" Do some research and take a harder look at that "secret group that could influence world events."

Something tells me you already know a lot about them.


Originally posted by depmode21
1) War Would End

2) Poverty & Disease Would End

3) Over-Population Would End

4) Violence Would End

5) Religious Extremism Would End

All of the above are very effective problem/reaction/solution scenarios created by that "secret group that could influence world events."

You forgot one:

6) Freedom Would End



[edit on 3-4-2009 by GoldenFleece]




posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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1) War Would End

In order for a One-World Government to be firmly established, there would have to be an understanding between all the nations of the world.


One world government will not bring an end to war. In fact if anything it will spark more conflicts by people who want nothing more than a sovereign body.


2) Poverty & Disease Would End

No, poverty and disease will be carefully controlled and reserved for nations/peoples who refuse to accept this one world government.


3) Over-Population Would End

Over-Population is a myth. You could give every person on the planet a 1/2 acre of land to grow crops, raise livestock, become self sufficient, and that 1/2 acre of land for every person on the planet would only take up the total land mass of australia.


4) Violence Would End

See above where new conflicts start from nations/peoples unwilling to except your standard of rules and laws. Who are you, even if you have a majority, to impose your will upon others. The very thought makes me want to take up arms at this very moment.


5) Religious Extremism Would End

Not true, in fact everything you've said is down right falacy.

One world government is going to cause more problems than you can imagine. Why should people that have lived all their lives with a certain set of rules, unrestricted uninfringed all of the sudden give away their rights.

I will not submit to tyranny. You're going to have to shoot me.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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It depends on what the one world government IS
...
But we do need a universal standard.
The problem is, most people quiver at the thought of a one world government. They would bring the system down (or try to) if it happened.

Wouldn't that be ironic?

"Don't worry about the vase"
"What vase?"... oh crap...



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece
You forgot one:

6) Freedom Would End



Define freedom.
In what way would it end?

Because there's a Universal standard?

We never truly had freedom to begin with.
There are rules, taxes, laws...
You're not free to do anything without a consequence, good or bad.

You're probably imagining a scenario in which the military is constantly dispatched to enforce insane laws, it's always raining outside (or at the very least, cloudy
), the leader of the world has a big bushy mustache...

You watch too much TV...



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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the point is that every time throughout history that a government gets too large and too powerful it ends very,very badly for the people. once a NWO type government is implemented we will all be forced to mold our lives around their templent. this is bad news. what our fore fathers fought against in the revolution is comming back in full force....the american way is dead....name one government that got too big and powerful through communism, facism, socialism or a variation of, that ended well for its people's liberties and civil rights!!!!............NOT ONE

the american way and constitution is burning because of people like the OP



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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My point of view on this is : Actually governments are controlled by who?Make your research and you will see that its about all the same persons who got power with all the lobbyisme. They are all linked to each others by some ways....make ur research.... Who got most power in this world???In my opinion its the "very wealthy and rich" who are very very just a little portions of population and they do control LOT things. So a New World Order as they call it, yes can look good , but it also means we give lot power to very few mens...Did anyone consulted us for these decision???It look like to me they do what they want. Anyway i think controlling the world as 1 government its a first step in abolishing freedom. I think we enter some dark times....and under applause;((



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:34 PM
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at first glavnce a one world government may look very good in the short run....but this is only in the short run, once they have total power we have no freedom and subsequently become mindless drones. watch or read 1984
its exactly what we may be moving towards.

not one time as an omnipotent all powerful government worked for the people, they always become slaves to their government, every time



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by TruthParadox

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
You forgot one:

6) Freedom Would End

Define freedom.
In what way would it end?

Because there's a Universal standard?

What "universal standard" are you seeking?

Have civil liberties and freedom in the U.S. increased or diminished with the expansion and consolidation of the federal government, e.g. "Homeland Security" (I love that name!), the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, executive power abuses, domestic surveillance, constitutional rights, federal bankster bail-outs, etc?

What makes you think global government -- even larger government by a smaller group of individuals -- would reverse this trend? It would only exacerbate it.

If politics and government can't be eliminated, they should at least remain local.





[edit on 3-4-2009 by GoldenFleece]



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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The reality of your proposition will never come to pass.

There are too many differences between the people in the world to establish your vision.

For instance, will Saudi Arabia be willing to give women equal rights? Right now, women are not even allowed to drive over there.

How, would you solve all the differences between societies to insure that one government would be acceptable?

It's not going to happen in the near future.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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As well, if you look back through history, every time the people have been disarmed, it's been followed by genocide.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

someone is still 2 years old...thinking oh the world doesn't make sense IF only they did it THIS way we could help the world! i learned a long time ago the way people who control the world really think, and it is nefarious in nature. A one World government would be hell on earth.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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Well if this NWO happens, there goes my plans for having kids. I dont care what anyone says, this is a pre cursuor to what is spoken of in Revelations. Lets not get G20 high, yeah we worked toegether for one day, wow. one day. Next they'll chip us.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by depmode21
Hello guys,

I've been lurking these boards for a few weeks now and it seems there is a lot of hysteria going on here.

Well, kinda lurking:

Recent posts in last 180 days of activity from depmode21 (250 Max)

Thread Title Replies Post Date

1 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 07:12 AM

2 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:59 AM

3 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:58 AM

4 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:53 AM

5 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:47 AM

6 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:32 AM

7 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:19 AM

8 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:07 AM

9 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:03 AM

10 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 05:51 AM

11 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Sure. It sounds good on paper, but it will be a living HELL before it is fully established because there will be war with resisting countries.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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If you are favor of a one world government...

I suggest the following...find a world where you are the only one on it to govern.

If you want to have a one world government on this world you better have a lot a lot of guns, a will of iron and steel, and be prepared to exterminate 3/4ths of the population and give partial lobodomies to the ones you don't.

The people will all love you that way...I am sure you will get past the drool in no time.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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You want to talk about morality...try to have morality without religion. Do your research, read how the founding fathers of the United States of America, said all laws are based on an intrinsic belief in the Creator, who gives us our rights.


Well I for one don't have religion and find myself pretty morally upstanding thank you very much. Over the centuries religion has proved itself to be more often than not morally bankrupt.

Not to digress too much off topic though, I fail to see why religion should not be removed from its' auspicious position in society and kept in the home or churches.

I for one would be very happy with a one world government as long as it's the people who are doing the governing and the politicians are doing our bidding.

Perhaps a one world government is evolutionarily inevitable, it's just that the greedy corrupt bastards figured it out before the rest of us. If their going to do it anyway what difference does it make to any of us, as we're not free at the moment.

Perhaps if we all developed a spine like Mahatma Gandhi and just said no in unison we'd start making progress, the greedy controlling scumbags are outnumbered by us billions to one for goodness sake.

You can't sell oil if no one turns up to drill or pump it, you can't drop bombs if no one wants to make them and you can't be starved to death if your neighbor keeps bringing you food.

A handful of people are laughing at the rest of the world, why ? because they figured out how to exploit our imaginary differences.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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It only seems like the perfect answer (RIGHT NOW!) because THEY (illuminati, Freemasons, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, whatever they want to be called) have created a world in which it is a living Hell to live in otherwise. Problem (they create the wars, poverty, plagues, financial collapses, corruption etc.) Reaction (our fear and necessitated need for the governments intervention and the "saviour effect" kicks in.)Solution is to give us what we have to have or have been conditioned to 'want'. A NEW WORLD ORDER, where if you are a slave to the one world leader, they will 'supposedly' stop all of the wars, plagues, crime etc. Unfortunately, under a NWO, these will increase, only now there will be wars against YOU (the people) not other countries. Plagues will be increased to downsize population to a controllable amount (see Georgia Guidestones) and crime will be wiped out under the terms of overshooting the mark of what a crime IS. Innocents will be put in prison, without trial, because of situational crimes that will be just ridiculous, only to be never heard from again because of the "no trial" clause in a new and (uhem) improved world constitution. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and when one man is in charge HE CAN DO AS HE WILLS. That is the problem. Don't tell me he won't and that he cares for us either, I think history proves what politicians are all about, you will have no case. Notice in the last days (the days when the 'mark of the beast' is supposed to be unveiled, that the Bible says that the "BEAST ...."CAUSETH" all men great and small, free and bond to accept the mark of the beast or the number of his name." It doesn't say that he forces them to, it will be a decision for one to make. Unfortunately, The Illuminati (or whoever lurks in the shadows pulling the worlds strings) has created a world which will "CAUSE" us to accept the NWO and thus have to accept their financial fix as well. the fix, as we know, will be a chip of some sort to go into the right hand or forehead. Those who don't take it will be called terrorists and be labeled enemies of the "Great Work", hunted down and legally marked 'wanted DEAD or Alive', these people will be known as the scourge of the earth and deemed fit for extermination, Constitutionalists, Revolutionaries, Christians will be in this category, as there will be a new constitution and Religion put in place for all.(Warning: God makes it clear, accepting this mark is a one way ticket to Hades/Hell) Ignorance will be no excuse, it is written in Revelations 13:16. (Also google "Verichip" and "Digital Angel") as the chip is already in the works and 'low altitude satellites' are already in place to monitor us.At any rate, The world has been created a living Hell, so that we would beg for someone to save us from it. Don't ask for proof of this from me, the proof is so overwhelming, I could fill up this site with questions and answer just from myself. Just look from page to page on ATS for proof and verify it by matching it up to the gov'ts' own sites. A NWO is a horrible idea considering, if the elites and commercialization and corrupt law were to be removed from our midst as well as counter-productive reverse engineering or our psyches to condition us for evil and greed and lethargy.....we might actually have a decent world to live in. I care not if the OP or naysayers respond to what I have said, but come on people, do you not feel what I am saying, considering I have only scatched the surface here???


[edit on 3-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Originally posted by depmode21
Hello guys,

I've been lurking these boards for a few weeks now and it seems there is a lot of hysteria going on here.

Well, kinda lurking:

Recent posts in last 180 days of activity from depmode21 (250 Max)

Thread Title Replies Post Date

1 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 07:12 AM

2 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:59 AM

3 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:58 AM

4 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:53 AM

5 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:47 AM

6 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:32 AM

7 Seriously, would a ONE World Government be THAT bad? 38 3-4-2009 @ 06:19 AM

8 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:07 AM

9 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 06:03 AM

10 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009 @ 05:51 AM

11 There is nothing wrong with a One-World Government 71 3-4-2009


Too funny! But on a serious note...What could be wrong with a One World Government is precisely this: Money = Power = Corruption...

This was published in December of 2008...


The World Bank - IMF is owned and controlled by NM Rothschild and 30 to 40 of the wealthiest people in the world. For over 150 years they have planned to take the world over through money. Former World Bank President joseph Stiglitz pointed out to top executives that every country the IMF/World Bank got involved in ended up with a crashed economy, a destroyed government, and sometimes in flames with riots. Jim Wolfensen, the president of the World Bank would not comment on his dismissal.

Before Joe Stiglitz was fired he took a large stack of secret documents out of the World Bank. These secret documents from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund reveal that the IMF required nations:
1. to sign secret agreements of 111 items
2. in which they agreed to sell off their key assets - water, electric, gas, etc.
3. in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved
4. in which they pay off the politicians billions of dollars to Swiss bank accounts to do this transfer of a countries fixed assets
If they do not agree to these steps they are cut-off from all international borrowing. Today if can’t borrow money in the international marketplace, no one can survive, whether you are people or corporations or countries. If that does not work they overthrow the government and plant lies about the former government and/or even rewrite history.
windfarms.wordpress.com...



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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There has never been a one world government in today's times. So don't try to bring up history because there is no history for this type of operation.

If you wanna bring up the Roman Empire, then obviously you missed out on 2000 years of globalization.

Our world is extremely different than the Roman times and even to the Nazi regime. Even when the Nazi's were trying to create a one world government, they felt major opposite from the other global powers mainly the US.

Like I've said before, there would need to be a unification of all the global powers in the world... That is the US, UK, EU, Russia, China, etc.

This unification is happening exactly at this moment.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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At first I thought this thread a rather tongue in cheek belated April fools joke, THEN I read it and the responses and I was stunned. The breath and depth of the alternate reality of ‘what’s wrong with one world government’ is almost inconceivable; how could anyone even retain such a thought, especially an American.

Have you seen or heard of the white helmet UN forces standing by and joking while genocide was going on around them? Have you seen them laugh and even join in on mass rapes and the machete mastectomies that followed? Have you seen them take bribes, rob and oppress the very people they were sent in to protect? I have, and I would rather entrust hell itself than those heartless and evil representatives of the NWO. The powers that be will not NEED to instigate wars when all of humanity is entrusted to the tender mercies of those international thugs, especially with them patrolling the streets of America; get a grip!

Further, if you think our elected officials ignore us and our rights NOW, just wait until your dealing with a government zombie from some African nation. Do you think HE’LL care about your paying too high taxes or give a wit about an American? If you do you need to use some of our new socialized medical benefits to see if you have any functioning brain cells left.

I do not mean to offend, just to get you to rethink your premise as I have dealt with UN troops and other agents, and they are NOT what the Hollywood induced perception of them is. THEY HATE AMERICANS AND RESENT US; PLEASE rethink this.





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