Originally posted by count66
reply to post by mental modulator
Thats socialism not communism.
My thread is debating communism - under communism - there are no taxes, the wealth you generate in your factory is distributed to the workers in that
factory - think of a co-op that runs on a multinational level. At the moment the shareholders get all that wealth that you generate - my question to
you is - why should that be the case - why can't you get that share which is what communism says.
You still have to work to receive that distribution of wealth from your factory or your company - only those who cannot work for legitimate reasons
such as disability or retired workers would be maintained by the rest of us - but the difference is - is that they would be maintained at the same
level as the rest of us and not forced to live in sub standard conditions through no fault of their own making
Socialism is the road to communism, Karl Marx himself said as such.
Groupthink, the individual being cast out and absorbed into some commune to be brainwashed into this would be my idea of hell on earth. Just ask the
POWs who were captured by the Koreans.
Your ideal is like a capitalism fused together with communism, but dressed up to make it sound sexy and appealing.
Look, you can never physically have a system where everyone puts in and takes out equally, humankind has too many parasites and free-loaders along
with corruption to do that.
It is also very important to note that there are too many people on this earth for one communal system.
Person A puts in 3 objects to the big pot, and person parasite comes along and takes 10 objects out of the pot.
There's a reason the capitalist system is in place, IT WORKS!
It's been going on since the year dot and you traded with someone for something else.
There are people out there who are inherently attuned to being socialist, it's in their nature.
Just as there those (like myself) who are inherently attuned to libertarian ideals and conservancy. These are just as capable and effective in
defeating or at least impacting the PTB if everyone started acting responsibly and not being so wasteful.
The reason all this palaver about the negative capitalism is buzzing around is because the fat cats and PTB have dropped a bollock and now we're all
suffering from it.
However, that does not mean capitalism is inherently evil or bad, just that the resources have been mis-managed and balance messed with.
Responsibility is where the success of capitalism comes in, if you're responsible and careful with cash and what you do with it, then you don't have
all this problem with lack of cash and so on.