There have been over 20 battles in the Valley of Megiddo, probably because they all thought they were fulfilling the prophecy, but no one saw a cross in the sky, or Christ on a white horse so it wasn't fulfilled. Nor have their been asteroid impacts and other terrible judgments leading up to it. Short to Jesus could be thousands of years. Also, this generation is the one that needs to see to believe everything. It's the generation that has many "chariots" in the streets and we have weapons capable of fulfilling the book of Revelation. Its the generation that has completely put God out of the question and thus must be the final generation Jesus prophesied about along with the other prophets. God Himself said that Daniel would not be able to understand, only the generation of the time of the end. When people would run to and fro(busy busy) and the true knowledge would become abundant(Big Bang Theory, Thermonuclear dynamics, atomic weapons, Earth is round, etc.)

Time is changing every day and even more so in a year. We constantly have to reset time to keep up so our system will function.

Everything that exists has its own cycle of time. And that cycle is changing rapidly as changes in matter and energy is speeding up.

Jesus said. I will come like a thief in the night and i believe him. We dont have a clue when things will happen.

Originally posted by Gawdzilla

"Empty....

Tomb...."

You regard hear-say evidence as valid?

"Witnesses..."

Again, hear-say.

Why are you impressed so much with your short-sighted argument?????


Of course it IS Hearsay? Is that your only point? Because you are stating the OBVIOUS man!!!

Points should contain an AH-HA! moment.....

The crux is......"why do you jump to the conclusion that the hearsay is WRONG???????


No disrespect whatsoever...I am praying for wisdom for you...keep searching and you'll find the truth....

I like joining in on ATS discussions of all sorts, but mostly religion. Man always strives to be greater than God, and the Bible is just trying to say something. In a nutshell He's(God/Elohim/Yahweh) trying to say that if you build a bunch of corporate skyscrapers and only love money, then the next solar maximum will knock out your power grids and completely devastate everything we downright expect as normal today.

There are many references to the future in the bible because it is 1/3 prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled. Genesis is the tale of the beginning, and man was naked. Revelation is a tale of the end, and man now wears a three-piece suit. See how far we've come. There's a lot of new technologies these days that could end life as we know it now. It was just written thousands of years ago in terms they could describe. The Bible is written in the erroneously weird and unnecessary way it is because if it wasn't it wouldn't be encoded. (thus jesus would have to say the parables he did in real life to have it be so) What I find most fascinating about it is the fact that the words tell a story and morals while still being encoded. This is the signature of God they refer to in the Scriptures.

Originally posted by spy66
Time is changing every day and even more so in a year. We constantly have to reset time to keep up so our system will function.

Everything that exists has its own cycle of time. And that cycle is changing rapidly as changes in matter and energy is speeding up.

Jesus said. I will come like a thief in the night and i believe him. We dont have a clue when things will happen.

Yes but remember this saying too: Matthew 24:23 "But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up." He also says no man knows the DAY OR HOUR not MONTH, SEASON, or YEAR. So there you go!!!

Originally posted by OldThinker
The crux is......"why do you jump to the conclusion that the hearsay is WRONG???????

It is more practical to conclude it is wrong than concluded it is right. We need to see real evidence.

Oh and...

Originally posted by lastxdance

Originally posted by spy66
Time is changing every day and even more so in a year. We constantly have to reset time to keep up so our system will function.

Everything that exists has its own cycle of time. And that cycle is changing rapidly as changes in matter and energy is speeding up.

Jesus said. I will come like a thief in the night and i believe him. We dont have a clue when things will happen.

Yes but remember this saying too: Matthew 24:23 "But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up." He also says no man knows the DAY OR HOUR not MONTH, SEASON, or YEAR. So there you go!!!

It is not as easy as that. You cant just quote something from the bible and think everything will be hunky dory. That is not helping anybody. Everybody can read. But that is only half of the clue.

You still have to get the timing right or you will be caught in your sleep.

If we dont fallow the right time we will get board and fall a sleep.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Nice shirt It's a picture of Jesus(latinized name of Yeshua)

The Shroud of Turin is a better picture though. The dating done on that was inconclusive because the carbon dating wouldn't be right on for the materials that were previously torn. Not only that they have found natural cells of the flora and fauna of His whereabouts on the shroud. You know that web bot prediction thing with a margin of error that is REALLY REALLY low predicts mass disappearances this year due to some inter-dimensional gateway opening up. What does THAT sound like?

Originally posted by lastxdance
Nice shirt It's a picture of Jesus(latinized name of Yeshua)

The Shroud of Turin is a better picture though. The dating done on that was inconclusive because the carbon dating wouldn't be right on for the materials that were previously torn. Not only that they have found natural cells of the flora and fauna of His whereabouts on the shroud. You know that web bot prediction thing with a margin of error that is REALLY REALLY low predicts mass disappearances this year due to some inter-dimensional gateway opening up. What does THAT sound like?

Where did that information on on carbon dating come from? Just made up, of course.

As for the prediction, let me guess, that "web bot" is named "St. Big Blue of Assisi"?

Where did the moon come from?

Interestingly enough the answer to that is very important for these times.

Where did the moon come from?

Interestingly enough the answer to that is very important for these times.

Originally posted by Gawdzilla

Originally posted by lastxdance
Nice shirt It's a picture of Jesus(latinized name of Yeshua)

The Shroud of Turin is a better picture though. The dating done on that was inconclusive because the carbon dating wouldn't be right on for the materials that were previously torn. Not only that they have found natural cells of the flora and fauna of His whereabouts on the shroud. You know that web bot prediction thing with a margin of error that is REALLY REALLY low predicts mass disappearances this year due to some inter-dimensional gateway opening up. What does THAT sound like?

Where did that information on on carbon dating come from? Just made up, of course.

As for the prediction, let me guess, that "web bot" is named "St. Big Blue of Assisi"?

I study dimensions,changes and time. I read in my books that as time changes at a rapidly changing speed, matter and energy breaks up and becomes a multitude of new matters and energies. which again speeds up the changes in all matter and energy.

How can scientist ever get their timing right ?

The speed and changes are not constant in any matter observed. They are constantly changing.

That's why time is a illusion.

Originally posted by lastxdance
Nice shirt It's a picture of Jesus(latinized name of Yeshua)

The Shroud of Turin is a better picture though. The dating done on that was inconclusive because the carbon dating wouldn't be right on for the materials that were previously torn. Not only that they have found natural cells of the flora and fauna of His whereabouts on the shroud. You know that web bot prediction thing with a margin of error that is REALLY REALLY low predicts mass disappearances this year due to some inter-dimensional gateway opening up. What does THAT sound like?

It sounds like they may get the LHC at CERN up and going after all...