Frankly, I did not like your opening posts (too combative and superior) and very much doubted I would score on the libertarian side. However, it appears I am more libertarian than you, by a couple of rows.

im a newbie that cant figure out how to import my graph to the forum. i was placed at the far left 3 blocks before the side and 2 blocks above the center line. im not very political so could someone tell me what exactly that means?

I believe the future of politics-government is in what would now be called ultra-libertarianism or near-anarchy. (Those who believe total and utter absence of government is possible probably aren't realistic). Of course this is in tandem (or eventually) with the end of secrecy-based government period and the revelation of much new (to us) science/knowledge. Here's hoping we can get it over with, like, yesterday.

If in Windows... you right click the graphic, copy the address (url), paste it here in [ ats ] [/ ats ] tags, without the spaces. You can click quote on my post to see an example.

Libertarianism can be summed up in one little phrase:

Self Determination!

You alone are responsible for your self.

Politically speaking, Libertarians are on the far-right of the political spectrum. Right meaning small government, Anarchist are the absolute right. This gets confusing because most Libertarians and Anarchist are often very Liberal in their social beliefs, for instance, no restrictions on drugs, being pro choice, etc. But what it all comes down to is "How big does the Government need to be to give you that choice?" The answer to a Libertarian -- almost no centralized Government! Most social issues that divide Liberals and Conservatives NEVER get debated in Washington -- so why hate each other over it!? In the end, take away the religious right and liberal nut jobs and you get a unified Socialist party with absolutely NO competition.

Libertarians don't have a grouped social conscience as to what is right, wrong, should be allowed. You can have very Social Liberal Libertarians and Religious Conservative Libertarians. The entire point is to remove the Federal Government, and return to absolute State Rights. From there, in the States, social issues can be debated.

Federally though all Libertarians regardless of beliefs have one common demand REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT FROM MY LIFE!

We are the True guardians of the Constitution!

I answered in the most appauling, nwo/globalist way possible, in ways I never would. Here is what it came out to:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.97

I beat hitler and thatcher!

I've taken it before, it's a good accurate read. I'm (a bit) leftist and libertarian.


[edit on 1-4-2009 by CapsFan8]

Originally posted by paperplanes
I'm surprised by how far to the right my own little dot is. I expected it to have moved toward the liberal side since I last tested a year or so ago.

The four-box visual is a bit misleading because Libertarians of left and right only have very slight differences.

I cannot agree with the strict non-interventionism of many (perhaps most) Libertarians. I believe that humanitarian intervention in foreign affairs is rarely necessary, but it cannot be taken off the table

Even though we're strictly non-intervention I dont think anybody rules it out entirely.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by Skyfloating]

Originally posted by Boom Slice
I really think Ron Paul will have a legit chance in 2012, if things keep up this way. Let's just hope people listen this time!

If the Internet-Populace-ONLY had voted, RP would now be President. So yes, there is a good chance for that 2012 or 2016.

Originally posted by YourForever
Frankly, I did not like your opening posts (too combative and superior) and very much doubted I would score on the libertarian side. However, it appears I am more libertarian than you, by a couple of rows.

A little bit of exaggeration there in the OP so that Libertarianism gets discussed

Congratulations on your results.

And I suppose that the view that the left and right got us stuck right where we are today and are both the same party that gets it's pay checks signed by the same person would make me....Reformist which shares some of the basic's as libertarians views except we want to tear down the government and rebuild from the ground up and induce TERM LIMITS of 2 years on ALL government offices and once your term is up your OUT forever! Period! Never to become career politicians again. And of course flat tax or consumtion tax it's only fair. Also any government held office is subject to immediant FIRING if he or she fails the year quartly report cards no more free rides for elected officials if they don't produce they are FIRED! Police are to be under a very,very watchful eye of civilian over-site. No more free ride for corrupt officers protected by police unions. All government fleet vehicals including police are to be down sized to small eco class cars and a couple of larger vans to pick up prisoners deemed needed for jailing via. Europe's police model. No more jailing of non-violate criminals they will be working there time on the week-ends re-pairing roads and re-painting etc. Thats just some of the way the reformist roll

Im libertarian left

Economic Left/Right: -1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

I lean towards left probably because of my inability to trust the multinational corps including the bankers and what not. Interesting test there Sky....

Eh, well I took the little test, turns out im slightly Authoritarian Left. Then Firefox froze before I could copy the picture lol.

The test was stupid though. I will tell you why:

none of it matters. Half the stuff in there would describe the difference between Democrats and Republicans, but shouldn't matter to a true Libertarian. I am more Authoritarian, I could have told you that before taking a test. I am also more Socially Conservative, not religiously so, but I prefer moral guidelines for society based on reason. However.. I am a Libertarian, and would never join in a party that would push my ideas onto anyone else.

I could have been the highest Authoritarian, Communist point on the little compass and it wouldn't matter, because they are my beliefs, not something I would push on people 3,000 miles away. And that, is the entire point of Libertarianism.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
The entire point is to remove the Federal Government, and return to absolute State Rights. From there, in the States, social issues can be debated.

That's the bit that I find strange, even confusing.

What is the difference between a State government and a Federal Government?

All you are looking for is essentially substituting one authority structure for another.

Then what?

Will being Libertarian mean that you want to do away with the State gov. and narrow it down to District, County, City, neighborhood, to when each person is his own ruler?

Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is anarchism.

Federally though all Libertarians regardless of beliefs have one common demand REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT FROM MY LIFE!

Exactly.

We are the True guardians of the Constitution!

Not really as I understand it. Under the Libertarian premise, again as you explain it, there is little or no need for a constitution to begin with.

Originally posted by digginforthetruth
im a newbie that cant figure out how to import my graph to the forum. i was placed at the far left 3 blocks before the side and 2 blocks above the center line. im not very political so could someone tell me what exactly that means?

It means you're a commie

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Click Upper Left "Video & Media".

Log-In to your Media Account using your ATS-Name.

Click "My Account" and "Upload Photo" (the photo would have to be on your computer first)

Upload and then Click on Photo. Option 3 is "embed in Thread". Copy/Paste into the Thread.

You'll get the hang of it soon enough.