About the Wolvery ST google pics!

People said " The nine silver spheres hover above a row of shops, including a Coral bookies, on the internet giant’s new Street View service"

hover above a row of shops? Jets or ducks or what ever do not hover.

reply to post by Kukulcangod

The so-called "spheres" have been proven to be the "Red Arrows" behind what is otherwise nothing but sensational journalism. A still shot of ducks in flight would make them appear to be "hovering" as well I suppose.

Case solved.


[edit on 1-4-2009 by spectre76]

it wasn't the red arrows but a sixteen-strong formation of Tornado GR4s representing all four of the squadrons based at RAF Marham.

see here

and watch the video here

now can we finally put an end to this as this has to be the 5th or 6th thread about this.

reply to post by Kukulcangod


Who? Source? More Sun readers I suspect...

reply to post by afgang


Excellent links, thanks afgang. It's a pity there are so many threads about this, infact I think i'm done wasting my energy on it..

reply to post by afgang


I agree thst they are jets but it's looks like 9 aircraft in a diamond 9 formation to me

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/001600409b60.png[/atsimg]

you'll find another picture if you trace the street view car's route which clearly shows 16.

here it is

it should be the junction between clarkson st and ellsworth st. now look up above the scaffolding.

turn to the left, you see people watching them. you can still see them as you move down clarkson st.

reply to post by afgang


Another squad maybe.

The only reason I say that is because, as you can see the original streetview pic, it clearly shows 9...

Nice find though

well, in that case, it's most likely to be

a diamond-nine formation of Tornado F3s, led by Wg Cdr Peter Cracroft, OC of 111(F) Squadron.

which is an earlier part of the fly-over on that date.

see here for details

reply to post by afgang



Nice, which frees up the Red Angels for the other pic

either way...case closed!

Originally posted by spectre76
reply to post by Kukulcangod

 

The so-called "spheres" have been proven to be the "Red Arrows" behind what is otherwise nothing but sensational journalism. A still shot of ducks in flight would make them appear to be "hovering" as well I suppose.

Case solved.


[edit on 1-4-2009 by spectre76]

Sorry, where was it EVER proven it was Red Arrows?

The Red Arrows have never had permission to fly over the London Airport / Heathrow Airport airspace.

Not in their traditional Diamond 9 formation, at least.

Neither have any other flight squadron... Although I'll agree they DO look like GR-4's or F-3's but that video is from Aylesbury and proves nothing to the OP.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by A55A551N]

It was a flight of 9 Tornados, not 16.... and we have yet to see empirical evidence posted to say the pictures were taken the same day as the queen's birthday... so case not quite closed yet...

oh, please.

right. here's how i worked out the date.

I followed the streetview car's route.
I was looking for something to tie an approximate date, perhaps the news headline on a billboard or something in a pub advertising some football game fixture but, alas, all I could find was the Prince Caspain Chronicles of Narnia advert. it says, in cinemas June 20 something.
you can see it here

it's on the tower hamlets billboard thing outside the la Forchetta.

Now, having that bit of info, I headed over to ole google to see if any air displays took place in june 2008 knowing full well that streetview images take approximately 9 months or so to go live online (I asked one of their drivers). I found the youtube footage which has a date when it was shot, which clearly shows a series of fly-pasts. Then I headed back to google to search for air displays and the exact date to find the Air Scene UK site I mentioned above somewhere with the precise details of what took place that day. There's photos too of the practice runs from the days before somewhere.

and all this within the time it took me to drink a cup of coffee.

as for the whole tornados debacle i shall quote the page should folk be too lazy to look for themselves:

The Queen's birthday and RAF 90th anniversary flypast went ahead in fine weather, the biggest flypast since the Jubilee in 2002. Element 1 was the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, with the Lancaster leading two Spitfires and two Hurricanes. The pilot of the Lancaster was Flight Lieutenant Mike Leckey, and one of the Spitfires was being flown by Group Captain Stuart Atha, Station Commander of RAF Coningsby and the Typhoon Force Commander. Element 2 consisted of a Hercules from RAF Lyneham, accompanied by two King Airs from 45(R) Squadron, based at the RAF College at Cranwell, the first time these aircraft have participated in the Queen’s birthday flypast. Element 3 was nine Typhoons, representing each of the four squadrons based at RAF Coningsby. The flypast leader was Wing Commander Johnny Stringer, Officer Commanding 29 (R) Squadron. Element 4 was led by a VC-10 from 101 Squadron flanked by two Tornado F3 fighter aircraft representing 43(F) and 111(F) Squadrons based at RAF Leuchars, closely followed by a Sentry AEW1 simulating in-flight refuelling. The Sentry was flown by Wg Cdr Stu Reid, better known as 'Bomber Leader' with the BBMF, training pilots to fly the Lancaster and the Dakota; this is his ninth season with the BBMF. Element 5 was a diamond-nine formation of Tornado F3s, led by Wg Cdr Peter Cracroft, OC of 111(F) Squadron. Element 6 (main pic): One of the RAF’s five C-17 Globemaster llls was flanked by two further Leuchars-based Tornado F3s. A sixth C-17 is expected to join the fleet imminently. Element 7 was a Nimrod MR2 from from 201 Squadron, RAF Kinloss, escorted by two more Tornado F3s from RAF Leuchars. Element 8: A Lockheed Tristar from 216 Squadron, based at RAF Brize Norton, was flanked by two BAe 125s from 32 (TheRoyal) Squadron, based at nearby RAF Northolt, Middlesex. Both types have served extensively in the Middle East, the Tristar refuelling other aircraft and transporting troops, and the 125s providing high speed transport for senior military personnel. Element 9: The final element was a sixteen-strong formation of Tornado GR4s representing all four of the squadrons based at RAF Marham. Among the formation was Air Commodore Phil Osborn, the Station Commander at RAF Marham until the previous day, and his successor, Gp Capt Colin Basnett

still not happy?

sheesh.





[edit on 1-4-2009 by afgang]

reply to post by afgang


Thanx for that, can do without the patronising tone though, it just makes you look like an arrogant clod..

Had you done the right thing and pasted your exact way of working earlier, no-one would have had to ask ..

i wasn't aware that I had to spell everything out when it's simply the obvious way of working.

simply a case of working out the date from the 'evidence' once a rough date was found, then figure out if anything that should have been in the sky was in the sky and struck lucky with a precise date.

i'm no investigator, but if I can backtrace a google streetview car's route, find several shots with obvious formation flying aircraft in it and find something with an approximate date to work out the rest, then everyone else on here, who have been doing this for far longer, should have been waaaay ahead of me.

however, there is a distinct lack of actually reading preceeding threads and replies on behalf of some people on the earlier threads who, once they get the idea of a fleet of ufo's terrorising east london can only see that and nothing else, it does get a bit like banging your head on a brick wall

reply to post by A55A551N



Other than the same day the Tornado GR4s were there (apologies the first link/reference to the Red Arrows is unrelated to the UFO pic - see edit note), and as the finale of the Olympic Handover.

Nice detective work on the date and Tornado GR4 diamond 9 afgang. If Google release the date (if anyone in the press even bothered to ask), I have little doubt that you're correct.

Edit: cocked up on the first link, it's rubbish. Damn eyes.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by jackphotohobby]

reply to post by afgang


Agreed, but posting your workings goes some way to backing up you claims. I'd presumed it was August 24th 2009, because that was when the Red Arrows were in town, and it was dry enough for substantial goods displays outside shops, but you convinced me otherwise and I'm a sceptic.

Prior to saying why you arrived at that conclusion I had no reason to believe you, and I don't see why that doesn't apply to believers also, but, still, nice job.

Thank you



i only knew about the 9 month approximation on images from the car being taken to going live from chatting to one of their drivers and that he confirmed that in cities, they work on a grid system, which is why you might notice that following a street doesn't always get you to where you want in one click. sometimes the arrow stops whilst there is clearly a lot of road ahead. that usually means that they have turned somewhere, so you have to follow the route if you want the images taken at that particular time. the image that joins on to where you want to go may have been taken hours later, or indeed, earlier.

They also stop the car and put covers on the camera if there's rain. this also may interfere with the way the images look from one click to another.