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reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 03:00 PM by Nirgal
Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
reply to
post by mr-lizard



And what exactly were they doing? I was there all day and all I saw was a bunch of wasters drinking, smoking weed, and sitting on the floor along Bishopgate...

Wasn't any kind of direct action I'm familiar with... Chalking a few slogans on the floor doesn't constitute 'doing something' in that particular context in my book.

Seriously - all those guys did is hijack a cause that has more relevance to the people who didn't bother to turn up (which in honesty I'm equally as annoyed about as you are).




Looks like my report was accurate after all...


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 04:24 PM by citizen smith
reply to post by Northern Raider



Well, a bit harsh, but you can't call for the revolutionary overthrow of your cake AND eat it can you?

It will be interesting to see what happens to all those who had to give their names, addresses, and have a mugshot taken over the next few weeks



[edit on 2-4-2009 by citizen smith]


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 04:48 PM by CX
Originally posted by Northern Raider
All these lefty toerags need a good kicking off the bobbies, but what would be far more just and fair is to pass everyone through a checkpoint enroute to the protests, Anyone in recipt of benefits and any students should be taken aside. The students should be thrown out of their unis and those on benefits should have them stopped, All should have a lifetime bar from holding jobs in the public sector. All should be banned from recieving state pensions, all student loans should be repaid immediately. After all if they object to capitalism they cant expect to live on a capitalist benefit and education system.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Northern Raider]


Sounds a good option You'd clear probably the majority of the people that were there i reckon.

Not sure how many people will agree here though.

I'm going to bow out of this thread now, it seems to be going back and forth and is achieving about as much as the protests have.

Maybe the last straw for me is reading things like this....

there was a breif scuffle between us protestors to let the ambulance through! we parted to let the ambulance through but we didnt let the 2 police vans escorting it through they got hit with missiles and all sorts


I can read a thread of posts slagging off the police, i'm not saying i agree with it, but i can handle it.

Yet when i read comments like this, talking about what amounts to one of the most stupid and dangerous acts people carry out these days, i'm afraid i have no sympathy for those who say they were doing nothing wrong.

The same protesters that say the police hindered the ambulance getting through, did the very same thing by obstructing the ambulance escort. Ambulances get escorted for a reason, especialy in trouble spots.

To think it is funny to stop the police escorts, verges on totaly idiocy!

That police escort was trying to get an ambulance to a casualty. Most probably a protester. So all you did was jepordise that help.

I have yet to hear what the ambulance was for, if it was a minor thing or if it was for the guy who died last night. If it was for the latter, then i hope that along with any police that get dragged in for this, so do all the protesters that were obstructing and pelting the police escorts with missiles.

I'm going to leave it there, i would dearly love to carry on however i love my ATS account and the remainder of this post would have earnt me an instant ban!

Take care all.

CX.

[edit on 2/4/09 by CX]


reply posted on 3-4-2009 @ 06:45 AM by Dutty_Rag
reply to post by CX



'Can't do with people slagging off the police'?

Why exactly? The police operation was appalling on Wednesday and before all this anti terror legislation crap was pushed through many of the police actions would have been illegal and for good reason...

Police were confiscating mobile phones.

Demanding that photographers delete images from their cameras or have them confiscated.

Restricting the freedom of movement of EVERYONE who happened to be in a certain area regardless of whether they were involved in any kind of violence (by misapplying the public order act to the situation)

Restricting the movement of mass groups of individuals hours after and before any trouble occurred.

Letting 'bankers' - or anyone who claimed to be working in an area through the cordon - based entirely on what - they way the looked? I hadn't committed any crimes either but I wasn't allowed through - why because I'm young and wasn't wearing a suit?

Police baton charged forward to disperse a crowd that as yet hadn't acted violently (other than a few taunts to the police which they really ought to be above in these situations). This resulted in multiple casualties. I witnessed this and was hot with a baton on my arm - despite not even wanting to be in the area.

Police responded with aggression to any attempt to speak to them - I asked directions and was told to 'F**k off' - had I said this to the officer I would no doubt have been arrested under the public order act.

Many of the 'shock troop' type riot police - not the ones in the green jackets, the one's in full US style paramilitary armour - had their numbers on their epaulettes covered with tape. This is surly illegal (clarification?)



Overall I'd say the police took a very bad attitude to the event. Aren't they meant to be politically impartial and only serve in these situations to prevent/respond to violence?

In this situation they were clearly allied with the government stand point/banking institutions as an organisation and were there to take 'a hard line' against protesters in general.

The police should not be a political tool. In this case this is how they were used.


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 12:04 PM by CX
Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
reply to
post by CX



'Can't do with people slagging off the police'?



Just thought i'd pop back to say, read my post......i said "I CAN handle a thread slagging off the police"........if you'd have read it properly you'd have saved yourself a load of typing.

CX.
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