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This is WHY Humans Can't see the Truth...

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posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 04:47 AM
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Dont get so offended.
people arent always going to listen or agree with you, you gotta learn to take it like an adult.
If they dont take the time to look at it their loss, who ever did look at it is more open minded than most.




posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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I agree it was one of the best threads I never read on ATS , something about the title, but when you feel so passionately about your thread topic that you re-post it as an example of "Why humans can't see the truth" I felt obligated to go back an read it.

I am open to multiple dimensions and the beings that exist there.

However I feel it is a bit presumptuous to expect these entities to assist me with my goals and desires. I would have hoped that these beings would be beyond petty materialism or domination games . I can find these qualities with the entities that inhabit this 3d reality sans portals !

What is the difference from a socialist nanny state welfare system and conjuring multidimensional beings to save you ?

These multidimensional beings sound like they are offering the same Hope and Change that was foisted during the US presidential elections,... I am curious of their true agenda, they may want something more soulful than tax dollars



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 06:11 AM
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This is even worse than your Portal Thread.
You claim that people simply are ignorant and closed minded for dismissing your thread.
So you create a whole new thread to dismiss them. Pathetic at best and even if it is for the points, its as lame and unimaginative as your Portal thread. Fail.

Your Portal thread was not important, it was mundane, juvenile, misleading, unsubstantiated and backed by evidence of "man I know it works because I used it to get chicks". Please.
What is your claim for this thread, That its the Most important thread about the most important thread, based on what? Your own opinion. Again, epic fail.

My suggestion, get a nappy, where it on your face. Cut the crap off from the source instead of having ATS members clean it up.

Man, if this is what happens when you chant MARA, i'd give it a rest Bobby.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 07:26 AM
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Hi Bobbylove321,

I can see you are copping a fair bit of flak on this site. I felt compelled to write and offer you my support and let you know that I understand where you are coming from. I have done my own research on 'magickal' texts and have read a lot of grimoires - and I do agree that entities, both light and dark do exist.

I wish to stress that I have not undertaken any exercises to open any portals or to make contact, never have done any rituals, however, that has not stopped some entities from making contact with me.

I have been exeriencing astral OBE's for the last 18 years now, not something I have brought on, just something that happens to me on roughly a monthly basis.

I have been psychically attacked twice by a dark entity. Something I would not wish upon anyone.

I have experienced other entities in the astral realm, both benevolent and nasty.

Yes, you are right, they do exist. But they are not to be messed with!

From my reading - King Solomon DID lose his soul to the darkness! He was overcome in the end.

I wish you well my friend, be careful and know that help from the light is always there should you need it. You just have to ask.

With kindest regards,

Dobbie

P.S. I didn't have any problems downloading the texts from your other post. Very interesting reading, but again I stress, not to be messed with.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321

I presented probably one of the BEST threads here in a while:



I do not agree with this statement. You claimed to have been able to open it, then claimed to not have gone through with it....then refused to provide evidence....then after many prompts posted the evidence, then argued with everyone that didnt believe you due to lack of evidence

If you want good threads, maybe you should read some of Internos' or ziggstars threads, now those guys create they types of threads considered to be "the BEST"



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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This thread isn't to bash on people. It's to let everyone know that people are simply liars in the nature when it comes right down to it.

They say they want proof, evidence, and want to believe, but when it comes right down to it they just dismiss it.

This is what the "open minded" people are now a days. It's simply sad.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 05:25 PM
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WHY humans can't see the truth? i thought you were gonna at least mention fluoride!!


here's a couple of my threads that illustrate this point:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

...you'll see! and hopefully everyone else will, too!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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JEEBUS not another thread by bobbylove321.... this is more propoganda to get links to his previous post... I know I am not following my own word by posting here but PLEASE... don't respond to this guy's hoopla!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by bobbylove321

I presented probably one of the BEST threads here in a while:



I do not agree with this statement. You claimed to have been able to open it, then claimed to not have gone through with it....then refused to provide evidence....then after many prompts posted the evidence, then argued with everyone that didnt believe you due to lack of evidence


EXACTLY! This guy is claiming anything he can and it gets thrown to the skunkworks!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321
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This thread isn't to bash on people. It's to let everyone know that people are simply liars in the nature when it comes right down to it.

They say they want proof, evidence, and want to believe, but when it comes right down to it they just dismiss it.

This is what the "open minded" people are now a days. It's simply sad.



It's to let everyone know that people are simply liars in the nature when it comes right down to it.

forgive me for saying this, but would not that make you a liar because its in u nature when it comes down to it?

You are letting everyone know that you think other people "not you" are liars and im going to controdict myself because im not apart of nature when it comes to me when you get down to it...

so what you are saying is infact we are all liars because thats our nature but someone how telling the truth because nature does not effect you?

Im confused?



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321
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This thread isn't to bash on people. It's to let everyone know that people are simply liars in the nature when it comes right down to it.
Yeah I can see how claiming that everyone but YOU is a liar would not appear to be bashing anyone. Fail.


They say they want proof, evidence, and want to believe, but when it comes right down to it they just dismiss it.
People don't just "want to believe" they base their beliefs and thus what they take to be the truth on what you present, they don't believe YOU, that is all. YOU, it is not that they are ignoring the truth, just YOU, because you do not represent the truth. Simple.


This is what the "open minded" people are now a days. It's simply sad.

Open minded does not mean blindly accepting someone(YOU) who claims they opened a portal, then claimed they actually didn't, then claimed they were sure it must work because they apparently did another ritual that made a girl want to date them. Please. If this is your definition of what being Open minded its no wonder you appear upset and dejected by the lack of enthusiasm, justified in MHO, apparent in the responses you got.
Perhaps it is purely YOU that lacks an open mind as you appear to ignore the faults and contradictions in your threads and posts, this sees you rather intent on blaming everyone else. Open your mind, it may just be YOU and YOU only. If you are truely open then you cannot ignore this possibility, can you?



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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The sheeple are ignorant, it is not your fault Op.

I skimmed through the tread before but I didn't notice the link and I thought it was irrelevant to read cause I already knew it was possible.

I'm looking at the script here in a few minutes, just for referencing.

I'm staying way from portals all together but I wish to lay my eyes upon these.

I do know of some wiccans in my area who use actively use spells.

I trully wonder if all of these spells are connected to the aid of dark entities..

The spells most wiccans use are obviously not.

As far as my knowledge goes it's basically re-enforcing the law of attraction.

Anyhow...

Let the sheeple slander about. They hate being corrected.

Being wrong is seen as a weak thing, a value the sheeple still hold from our common ethics.

Op, you are right to be angry, but how you're utilizing it I believe is mostly vain.

These peoples brains are calised all over, let them find the antidote themselves if they are so resistant.

I probably wont be back to fallow this thread. Any one slandering at me is wasting their time. Have fun with your ignorance.

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edit, not all of these are portals

some may be normal spells.. but still dangerous

[edit on 1-4-2009 by Scarcer]



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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actually you are wrong there about Solomon and even at that it wasnt demons that got him.

In Ecclesiastes 12:13 he wrote, "Now all has been heard;
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the whole duty of man.
For God will bring every deed into judgement,
including every hidden thing,
whether it is good or evil.

He repented his sins at worshiping false idols. This isnt bible time im just explaining what i posted in his other thread, bobby claims you can never go back and you give up your soul. Which is wrong, Solomon didnt lose his soul to evil and evil wasnt going to get him. What was in the balance was his repentance for worshiping false idols to god, not being reaped by some underworld deity.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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If you are going to insult us please at least learn to spell. Must be one of bobbys friends im guessing.

You clearly didnt read through his whole thread or you would see our perspective.



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Aloha,
"playing with fire"
True, people are not lying, they are afraid.
Bill



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 06:57 PM
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I don't see why people are still arguing about it.

I opened up a portal, and people didn't believe me, and that's their own fault.

I can only say what I did, and how I felt. I also provided the information on how to do it yourself.

People didn't believe me because they are skeptical and are not ready for the truth. They REALLY aren't ready.

The mind is blind to the truth when the person remains skeptical.



posted on Apr, 5 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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hi bobby

as u say i believe there are good and evil spirits, though i havent tired opening any portal. my thought is similar to your just wondering if people are aware there is a God then y dont they believe.???
and how could anyone be so blindled to the truth
so now my point is there are spirits and if so there is a God. people in the world worship many gods, I believe the God of the bible is the only true God. what do you say? and if the God of the bible is the only true God. then y dont people follow this true God and y so much confusion going on
everything is so clear and simple .



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Gee that's a sensitive opening of the thread b.!

100% of the people who downloaded the manuscript didn't take a look at it??

You're wrong to think that. Don't forget that most people are curious about a lot of things and some are curious about these kind of texts.

Do you ANY idea of HOW many of this sort of books / texts there are?

So many that one needs a lot of lifetimes to read them all


And don't forget: NEW manuscripts are being written all the time.


As you said there are many ways willingly and unwillingy to open portals and I agree.

[edit on 4/8/2009 by Melyanna Tengwesta]



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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people are still awakening to the fact they have been brainwashed, the truth is most people can not and will not accept the truth as it will rock their whole belief structure and will lead to psychosis.

leave them brother, let then live in ignorance, i also notice from from your opening post that part was deleted due to a drug reference, even the moderators of this forum are just fools who think they are right. yet they know not that drugs are put on the streets via black ops and that prohibition does not work it creates crime and disorder and fear, they will continue to live in the prisons they have created in their heads and never know that they are the problem, not the solution.

so once again i say forget them because the sooner we get rid of the dead wood in this society, the better and the new world order has my blessings in that sense, there is method to the madness and when these idiots realise that it will already be too late for them

[edit on 8-4-2009 by EvilTwin666]



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:42 AM
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I think you are so far off on this.

People are open minded. Because they don't agree or believe your ideas does not make them close mided. This sounds very personal.

It portrays to some this...

"I posted this amazing thing. By the way I haven't really done it myself but it totally works."

Then you tell us "by the way...it'd be best if you didn't do it"

Your new thread says...

"I can't believe that you guys are so close minded. You didn't believe what 'I' gave you."

Alot of this is perception. You'll notice not once in this post did I say you were wrong or I didn't believe you, but this is how things come off. It sounds superficial, glossed-over, and very egoistic.

I think people are alot more open than you give credit for. I myself am a full-fledged Pagan. I am not a neophyte as I saw someone yell out as an insult earlier. (PS...insults don't help your cause rather they make you sound beligerent and clueless)

I happen to believe things such as you posted but the way it came off sounds awful. I would be more than willing to try. U2U it if you don't feel safe here. I am well experienced and will be just fine.

In the end though, how can you expect a person to just believe it when you yourself don't have any real concrete eveidence and you admit you haven't done it either? That's where the hard part comes in

-Kyo



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