Originally posted by asmall89
I believe that the companies should be allowed to fail, no intervention. Better car companies will come along and take their place in this supposed
free market system we have.
True, IF we can keep the country together through the massive shake-up that would cause. If things proceed badly, cars might never return as we have
them today. Also, roads will get worse in that scenario.
The difference between what the Russians did to that Italian car and what Americans do to our cars, is we actually improve them (usually). We don't
take a modern car and equip it with drum brakes made out of aluminum.
Good point, but we also have to respect each others "intellectual property rights" yeah? This, I think, is a huge smokescreen behind which much
car-pork is hidden. For example, if I invent the tech for disc brakes (better than drums) why, I then need to protect
that invention and make
sure that it only gets used A: When someone pays me, or B: When someone has enough legal might to subtely design a somewhat different disc brake.
Although as the original inventor of the "official disc brake" I will sue them of course, but in the end, everyone will copy my design anyway.
Lawyers and court workers and judges will be richer, of course.
I actually think that GM and Ford have come out with some decent stuff lately. I've riden in a new Ford 150 and have to say it was probably the best
new car I've been in lately.
Yes, the truck division is different, so next question is: Is it good that more Americans are buying trucks? Well, I would have to say on a political
level, the answer to that is yes because I want Americans to be mobile and enabled to travel. But even the biggest truck can be effectivly wrangled
by the DMV so really the DMV are the ones who should colletively mobilize on the car makers since they're the ones who graft the people daily.
There's good cars out now too, but the reputation of the companies has just killed them for the past 20 years.
The cars of today can't be worked on by the buyer and that is where the soul of the US car manufacturer of the era we are discussing, lies.
If they wanted to really change things, they'd provide a free diagnostic repair computer which you could plug in and dial yur problems up easily and
get parts for under 200 bucks. The cars of today support politics and repair divisions at dealerships. The cars of old were 100% in the hands of the
buyer. The main question is: How do we keep the huge power-structure involved in owning a car dealership intact? And my answer would be, lose all
car dealerships and have all car sales web based and have the car drivin to your house.
Also immediately find other professions for all mechanics. These manufacturers could, for example, use their own trucks to convert their
mechanic-fleets into mobile repair fleets which interact with local mechanic shops.
I am saying all there needs to be is a shift to the older way of putting the whole car into the hands and driveways of the customers. If that means
taking your mechanics and putting them on their backs under that new car AT the house of the buyer, then why not? They need to EMPOWER, not
DISEMPOWER, the customers.
Everybody who is sucking off the human race for profit, be they opium manufacturers (UK/US sends in green-thumb teching corps to help them) or planned
obsoklesecnce schem-sters unions of blind workers, ALL who are sucking off the productive labor of humans and not paying it forward toward humans in
general, will be disempowered within the next 20 years, imo.
For instance, GM put the old Iron Duke in the Pontiac Fiero which ruined it, instead of putting the latest 16 valve 4 cylinder in. This is the type
of stuff that killed the company. But what do hot rodders do? They take the car and stuff a V8 in it.
You are right and my question for you is this: If the Fiero was a great car and we can agree that it was DESIGNED cool but full of shat parts, then
why can we not simply take all the CAD models of that car, slap in new suspension parts and a four banger with correct computerization of fuel/air and
so on --WHY DO WE NEED SOME NEW CRAP? It's all been designed already. Lawyers and judges tell us that "stealing even from the unused past, is a
crime, because those ideas/designs are still owned" but those designs don't ever get used!
It is as if we are talking about a convoy of ships (brands) here, all sinking, all with proven parts of floatation devices down in each of their
hulls. Idiot captain and crew cannot figure out how to get those flotation devices (ideas already owned abd liked) out on deck! Who wouldn't want a
retro or newly styled Fiero if it cost three-grand and had a PS2 built into the dashboard with every Sony PS2 game loaded onto a hard drive in the
dashboard?? Do you see where I am going with this? Intellectual property says that we must let the old ideas and designs die, for if we simply lay
hands on them and if there are not a thousand million phone calls and meetings between legal parties and profiteers, then we violate some archaeic
code which says that ideas left dormant have value even in their slumber. I say, if your idea comes to frution, that smaler car co's come into the
mix with this sort of rotten mix of DMV and Govt and GM/Ford in other countries... Well, I am sure GM and Ford can sue all the little guys quite
easily from Brazil especially if they make anything that looks like a Fiero.
But seriously, redesign the Fiero (Pontiac is a great hot rodding brand) put better imprt style parts on it and a simple computer to dial four
cylinders with fuel and air and it could rebuild the hot rodding culture in America overnight. Other countries are moving this machine under other
brands, using American workers. What market relevance do GM and Ford have if not nostalgia?