700 Billion WAS The False Flag (must watch vid) 9-11 info too

If you were upset at the banks bailouts

A bailout of 700 plus billions

.DONT BE


Those were the false flags

A Game of Inflation Anyone ?

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Thank you for posting this.

My thoughts are... if anyone doesn't already know, they need to watch your posted video and keep looking deeper into it. Crazy times...

So surreal, I just want life to go back to 'normal', I keep thinking to myself.

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Can you believe Rumsfeld ?

"I can't remember the question"

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Yep I remember these events...

~$2.3T "Missing" day before 9/11...

~$2T 9/11 payout to Silverstein...even though he just purchased it...right...

Got swept under the rug in all the "War on Terror" hype...

That's how it always happens...keep things moving fast enough and people lose track...short memorys...

All of America needs to see this vid. All of America must wake up and see what is about to befall upon it. America would kick out all of it's government if they would listen to Ron Paul & Gerald Celente for just a few minutes, but they are ether to afraid to listen or choose to be willfully ignorant!

America wake up!!! We need our country back....

www.trendsresearch.com...

On inflation:

Is there any way to stop inflation? I realize nobody wants their bank account to be invisibly taxed, but I don't think there's really a good way to stop it -- and besides, the banks which are responsible for lending out money, which increases inflation, also give you a portion of the profits. -- So as far as your bank account is concerned, if you want "no inflation," that also means you don't want interest payments on your savings account.

When I first became acquainted with fractional-reserve lending, I was outraged. I thought it was the biggest fraud on the planet -- as that was indeed how it was portrayed. However, that was nearly a year ago, and having become more knowledgable on the subject, by doing my own homework, I can't see a major problem with it.

Inflation means your dollar buys less, but that is because the amount of goods in the system has not increased with the amount of money. That is a natural consequence of being able to take out a loan for a new house, a car, or a business. It also ensures lending institutions can gamble on a basket of business ideas, which in theory leads to productive industries, which makes all our lives better. What does the bank get in return? All they ask for is their original loan back, plus a little extra, which is payed to themselves and their depositors (you and I). It's the banks job, however, to make sure that the business plan is sound and safe. That's what they get paid to do -- make those kinds of analyses.

On derivatives:

I recently began investing in stocks -- how recently? 11 days before the crash in September! Boy, what a historical time to get involved, huh? Well I've learned a lot in this category as well: One thing you learn about rather quickly is what put/call options are. Investopedia explains them this way:

What Does Put Option Mean?
An option contract giving the owner the right, but not the obligation, to sell a specified amount of an underlying security at a specified price within a specified time. This is the opposite of a call option, which gives the holder the right to buy shares.

What Does Call Option Mean?
An agreement that gives an investor the right (but not the obligation) to buy a stock, bond, commodity, or other instrument at a specified price within a specific time period.

These are two examples of derivatives. Each put/call contract represents 100 shares of an underlying stock (usually). 1 put contract for a 100$/share company would represent a potential for a 100$ gain X 100 shares (100$/share X 100 shares per put contract). That's 10,000$ from derivatives, if the stock were to crash down to 0 dollars. If you buy call options, instead, and the stock goes from 100$ to 200$, that's a 10,000$ gain. In reality, of course, it's not quite 10,000$, because there is a fee payed to the writer of the derivative, who is taking the risk of putting the put/call option on the market in the first place. That fee is something he/she will keep, no matter what happens to the derivative contract; also there are millions, if not billions or more, of these derivative contracts floating around, and you can buy derivatives for almost anything, not just stocks.

Now the question in my mind, is what does the author of this youtube video consider to be derivative money? Is it the potential in gains/losses of the contract (IE, the 10,000$ gain)? Is it the fee payed to the writer of the derivative? Is it the current market value of the asset being tracked by the derivative? Depending on what you mean by "money in derivatives," which only represent the potential gains/losses, then I can see how his 1Q$ figure in negative gains might be true. However, it still doesn't "work" quite the way he describes it. Those derivatives are tracked by an underlying asset, which is sold/bought depending on what happens in the future. So there would need to be 10 earths being "gambled on" in the market, for this to be true.

Correct me if i'm wrong

Originally posted by Kaytagg
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When I first became acquainted with fractional-reserve lending, I was outraged. I thought it was the biggest fraud on the planet -- as that was indeed how it was portrayed. However, that was nearly a year ago, and having become more knowledgable on the subject, by doing my own homework, I can't see a major problem with it.

The problem is that banks(especially those who print money) is on PRIVATE hands....it MUST be in the hands of the people.
Money and it's creation, is a need of the people, and must be governed by the people.

Seany,

Thank you for posting the video. We're in the middle of the biggest heist in human history.
The real question is: Cui bono?

N

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The problem is that banks(especially those who print money) is on PRIVATE hands....it MUST be in the hands of the people.

now who exactly, of the people will control the money. the government.
you wouldn't want to turn around argue against socialism then.
haven't watched the video yet but i'm sure these allegations are made against a capitalist leadership.

Originally posted by Hx3_1963

That's how it always happens...keep things moving fast enough and people lose track...short memorys...

So True.

Your post reminds me of this popular Bush Administration Quote:

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

*This Neocon co-conspirator sums up the situation we now find ourselves in quite well.....

False Flag.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

The 'waste' should be 'recycled'.

Those amounts of money are absolutely staggering on their own...but combined!

This money coulda been used to erase global poverty, decrease external debt of many nations and so many other positive uses. To think and accept that this money went "missing" is utterly ridiculous and inexcusable!!!

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Obviously, the entire world has been taken for a ride here. If the numbers are real, then it is no longer based in reality. People / organizations have been manipulating these numbers for their own personal gain, whether it be wealth, power or both. Obviously there is no way that the people of the world can be expected to pay back a quadrillion dollars.

So, if the wealth is really just an illusion that benefits a select group of people, wouldn't that make the debt just as imaginary? I am (obviously) not an economist.... but what would be the consequences of starting over? What would happen if every nation simply forgave all debt and started from zero with a (I know I know...) new currency? Obviously, there would be consequences but would they be any more severe than what we are facing now? Would it be worse than a global depression?

I would imagine that it would be a much better alternative for 99% of the world. It would be a much worse alternative for the 1% that has become so wealthy and powerful by exploiting our current system though. Sadly, that 1% is the group that will be deciding just how we are going to come out of this. And I would bet that they will not be very keen on reducing their own wealth or power for the sake of the rest of us.

Excellant post. I have the feeling though that it is gonna take alot more than that to wake the rest of the people up,...I try to tell folks about what is going on and all I get is raised eyebrows and denial. It is gonna take a major fire under their butts to wake them , but then it will be to late. So what I have been doing is helping my loved ones get prepared in a round about way so it seams that they are being "Earth Frindly and self sufficiant" a positive change based on "GOOD thinking" not fear.

Dis-info has quite a history.

To whom makes the laws?

Has humanity evolved since the days of Papyrus or been left in the shadows of ignorance?

Seems crime unto another still pays?

They both suffer in their End.

You deserve 'better'.

Make it happen.

[edit on 31-3-2009 by Perseus Apex]

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You should watch Zeitgeist addendum.... and the orientation video
from the movement.

Very eye opener...

Originally posted by Kaytagg
On inflation:

Is there any way to stop inflation? I realize nobody wants their bank account to be invisibly taxed, but I don't think there's really a good way to stop it -- and besides, the banks which are responsible for lending out money, which increases inflation, also give you a portion of the profits. -- So as far as your bank account is concerned, if you want "no inflation," that also means you don't want interest payments on your savings account.

Start converting all of your soon-to-be-worthless dollars into precious metals and goods with high barter value (heirloom seeds, canned foods, water, gasoline, ammunition.)

One thing I don't understand and please somebody enlighten me. What is the point of printing all this money and then stealing it from themselves?

I don't get it. They make the money out of thin air, it becomes tangible in the form of US dollars. Then it disappears back into thin air.

I don't get it.

Also, what could they possibly gain by having all this bogus money? If the bankers are in power already, why do they steal from themselves. Whats to gain here?

Lastly, can anyone see my avatar? I notice it's missing as well as some others?

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This is just criminal if you ask me and just about ever citizen of the planet! As protest after protest are organized and carried out over this bail out madness the PTB just ignore the voice of the people and do as they please.

I like very much the idea that Karlhungis proposed. In the OT under the Law of Moses every 49 years was the Jubilee year and all debts were forgiven and all property reverted to the original holders. We all know that this would never really happen now, but that would be one way to manage this.

It is past fantasy that the amounts of money quoted are more money than is in the entire world, if this isn't madness I don't know what is.

If anyone doubts that the government could not come up with the money for the black op space program I guess they will have to now face that this money could have well been used for something that secretive! What sort of world has this turned into????? red

First of all none of the money they put out is actually printed - its all done with a few keystrokes. they do it to because the people need to see them doing something. and the people who paid to put them in there need to be compensated. the money isn't worth nothing yet. so certain people can still get "rich" till the dollar is worthless or they can buy other currency or precious metals, something tangible. the point is we don't get it so we can't do those things and it actually comes out of our pockets to boot. the money is just a tool of the elite for power and enslavement. that is all it has ever been for no matter what system: capitalism, communism, socialism, fascism they are all controlled by the same people using money as a tool. Zeitgeist Addendum explains it greatly. I mean any smart person can see the money is about to go away in one form or another. can't we make the decision to do it right this next time around provided they don't destroy us and everything else?