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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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DULCE BASE CONFERENCE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS!!

by Norio Hayakawa
March 30, 2009

DULCE, NEW MEXICO -- Close to 120 people showed up for the first "underground base" conference ever to be held in Dulce, New Mexico on Sunday, March 29.
The event made a rather tumultuous start at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn at 10 a.m.
By that time the entire bar lounge area began to be filled beyond capacity.

And by the time the first speaker (former Dulce ranch owner, Edmund Gomez) began his presentation, many people had to stand and wait in the adjacent restaurant area.
It was then that the Fire Department issued a warning saying that the conference must immediately be moved elsewhere.

Halfway through the speaker's fascinating presentation, the Fire Department issued a stern second warning saying that the number of people inside the conference room far exceeded its capacity.
Panic then began to be felt by the event's organizer, Norio Hayakawa of Rio Rancho.
Hotel employees frantically made phone calls to find out if there were any other locations available for the conference to go on.

It was then that Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department, suggested to Hayakawa that the conference be moved to a civic hall inside a small shopping center across the street from the hotel.
With Velarde's swift assistance in making the arrangement, and after a short intermission, the entire Dulce Base: Fact or Fiction? conference and public forum finally resumed and continued the rest of the day at the new location.

As an interesting side note, on Sunday morning when it was still dark outside, many guests at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn were awakened shortly before 6 a.m. by a thunderous roar of blades of helicopters above. Local residents nearby reported that there was a rare low flight of two military helicopters above Dulce.
In the afternoon session of the conference, two local residents also testified that they witnessed the military helicopters circling above Dulce and that they passed slowly above the hotel. They told Hayakawa that there are occasional appearances of military helicopters over the town but the flights were never as low as what they saw early Sunday morning.

As organizer and moderator of this conference, Hayakwa several times alluded to an allegation that the government, beginning in the early 1970s and lasting till the early 1980s, may have conducted clandestine operations in the area involving experiments with bovine diseases, anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare research.

He also alluded to another allegation that there may also have been some illegal dumping or storage of toxic chemicals and other bio-hazardous materials in the nearby areas.

Hayakawa stated that he tends to support a theory that the government may have purposefully created some 'convenient' cover stories (underground alien base concept) to conceal those clandestine activities and may even have staged a series of fake 'UFO-type' incidents in the area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection devices.

However he also stated that he cannot deny any possibility that there may indeed be some unknown interdimensional phenomenon in the area which happens to be filled with fascinating cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Jicarilla Apache nation.

The speakers at the conference were:

1) Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce. Their ranch has lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years.

2) Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department.

3) Gabe Valdez, former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce area. He investigated numerous cattle mutilation cases in the Dulce area from the mid 1970s to the early 1980s.

4) Christopher O' Brien, researcher of paranormal activities in the San Luis Valley of Southern Colorado.

5) Dr.. Michael E. Salla, initiator of "exopolitics" and author of a book entitled: EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE.

6) Greg Bishop, author of PROJECT BETA, a book in which he describes in detail his investigations of the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz who was one of the initial sources behind the rumors of an underground base in Dulce.

7) Gabe Julian, former Dulce police officer who worked under the late Raleigh Tafoya, former Dulce Police Chief.

8) Dennis Balthaser, a well-known UFO researcher from Roswell, New Mexico.

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9) Keith Ealy, a researcher with a fascinating view of Dulce as being a space time portal for interdimensionals, a topic similarly shared by world famous researchers, Dr. Jacques Vallee and John Keel.

Additional report and comments on the Dulce conference can be seen at:

www.examiner.com...




posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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Norio!
Well, like I said I DO wish I had been there.
That was an interesting harrassment package you all received there!

I will certainly plan ahead for it for next year!

But how are you? Did everything beyond that go well for you? Do you think that you picked up any extra detractors?

And... Can you post a few blurbs about highlights and main points of the conference please?



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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Another place that we need to keep an eye on....someday the truth wiil be known.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Norio Hayakawa
DULCE BASE CONFERENCE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS!!


The speakers at the conference were:

1) Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce. Their ranch has lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years.

2) Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department.

3) Gabe Valdez, former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce area. He investigated numerous cattle mutilation cases in the Dulce area from the mid 1970s to the early 1980s.

4) Christopher O' Brien, researcher of paranormal activities in the San Luis Valley of Southern Colorado.

5) Dr.. Michael E. Salla, initiator of "exopolitics" and author of a book entitled: EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE.

6) Greg Bishop, author of PROJECT BETA, a book in which he describes in detail his investigations of the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz who was one of the initial sources behind the rumors of an underground base in Dulce.

7) Gabe Julian, former Dulce police officer who worked under the late Raleigh Tafoya, former Dulce Police Chief.

8) Dennis Balthaser, a well-known UFO researcher from Roswell, New Mexico.

and

9) Keith Ealy, a researcher with a fascinating view of Dulce as being a space time portal for interdimensionals, a topic similarly shared by world famous researchers, Dr. Jacques Vallee and John Keel.

Additional report and comments on the Dulce conference can be seen at:

www.examiner.com...




The speakers at the conference and their main points expressed were as follows:

Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce said that their ranch lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years. Gomez stated that gas masks were found near the mutilation sites and that specific cows were each tracked with phosphorescent markings a few days before the mutilations actually took place.. He is convinced that this was done by the government and that no aliens were involved. He asserted that the government was conducting some type of germ warfare experiments. He concluded by stating that there is definitely a governmental underground facility there.

Hoyt Velarde, former Dulce police officer and head of Public Safety Department asserted that he has not located the base yet but it is an undeniable fact that there have been (and still are) many UFO sightings in the area. Velarde even suggested that he is willing to organize an escorted group expedition soon for the public to the top of the Archuleta Mesa if such a request is made in earnest. He surprised the attendees also by saying that another conference on this topic could even be held next time in the conference hall of the Police Department there. Hayakawa said that he may consider this offer.

Gabe Valdez, former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce area stated that he investigated numerous cattle mutilation cases in the Dulce area from the mid 1970s to the early 1980s. He declared that this has nothing to do with aliens but that there is something there that is too sensitive for discussion and refused to further divulge what that was.

Christopher O' Brien, researcher of paranormal activities in the San Luis Valley of Southern Colorado asserted that Dulce may be a diversion for what is more importantly taking place in the San Luis Valley just north of northern New Mexico.

Dr.. Michael E.. Salla, initiator of "exopolitics" and author of a book entitled EXPOSING U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE expressed his belief that there is a joint US/alien underground bio-lab beneath the Archuleta Mesa and that this must be addressed as a serious human rights abuse issue.

Greg Bishop, author of PROJECT BETA, a book in which he describes in detail his investigations of the claims of an Albuquerque scientist by the name of Paul Bennewitz, said that Bennewitz was the initial source behind the rumors of the underground base in Dulce. Bishop asserted that Bennewitz was side tracked by an unofficial disinformation campaign to get him to look away from evidence of sensitive military projects going on in 1979 inside Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque. However, Bishop surprised everyone when he said at the end that he is now beginning to doubt his initial doubt about Dulce and concluded that there could indeed be something there.

Gabe Julian, former Dulce police officer who worked under the late Raleigh Tafoya, former Dulce Police Chief described his encounters with three metallic, oval-shaped object hovering at a tree-top level at a ranch in Dulce. He described how he was dispatched to the ranch house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and was shaken up when he witnessed those hovering objects there.

Dennis Balthaser, a well-known UFO researcher from Roswell, New Mexico expressed his conviction that there is a US/alien joint biological laboratory and base under the Archuleta Mesa.

Keith Ealy, a researcher with a fascinating interpretation of Dulce as being a space time portal for interdimensionals amazed the audience with his close-up satellite imagery of Dulce Elementary School building. He told the audience that the contours of the parking lot resemble an ancient stone scupture in Bolivia. He concluded that the Dulce area is filled with interdimentional phenomenon, a topic similarly shared by world famous researchers, Dr. Jacques Vallee and John Keel.

Here is an excellent report about the Dulce Base conference and its conclusion:

www.examiner.com...

Also, the Albuquerque Journal had a front page story today (March 30) about the conference. The headline which appeared at the bottom of the front page was "UFO Hunters Debate Underground Base". And on page 3 the headline for the continuing story was: "Secret Alien Base in N.M.?"



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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My question is, did anyone have any physical evidence that a base exists? Cattle mutilations do not prove there is a base. The speculation of what goes on is pure conjecture. Until there is some type of physical evidence of support for a large base, the reasons for it are moot.

It now seems that many are going to use the space/time continuum theory to point out that the base does not need any supplies or logistics to support it. Is that so no evidence of the base will ever be found? I think the research is being wasted on the Dulce question. Why not use the Freedom of Information Act to look for documents about movements to the area in question?



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Norio Hayakawa
DULCE BASE CONFERENCE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS!!


So what are the key questions that have been raised which are not among the myriad of questions already surrounding the enigma of Dulce and it's alleged history?


However he also stated that he cannot deny any possibility that there may indeed be some unknown interdimensional phenomenon in the area which happens to be filled with fascinating cultural and spiritual beliefs of the Jicarilla Apache nation.


Do you have evidence to support this phenomena of Interdimensional portals?



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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There are bases and underground installations all over NM. My cousin recently disclosed this much to me having admitted that her father was a tech guy who worked in them in the 60s. He died in a mysterious car accident when she was 2 yrs old and she went further saying my dad knew him well and would often sneak into his "forbidden closet" where he kept schematics as well as books written in Russian. Her father also does not show up in the ssn master records (like Phil Scheider). And it's strange that my dad always tried to convince me that UFOs and aliens weren't real and that my own experiences were my imagination. It was only a couple of months ago that he told me to talk to her. makes me wonder what he knows. All I know is his family sold all their NM land and left in a hurry.



posted on Jun, 8 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Also my above post is not BS. If u have ay questions feel free to ask. I will give what answers I can



posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 03:54 AM
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for those who read for a first time, let make it clear what is all about
exopolitics.org...
The Dulce Report:

Investigating Alleged Human Rights Abuses at a
Joint US Government-Extraterrestrial Base at Dulce,
New Mexico
Dr Michael E. Salla
September 25, 2003

In the Dulce papers and his personal testimonies Castello claims the existence of a seven level underground facility that jointly houses humans and different extraterrestrial races in Dulce, New Mexico. Castello claims that the humans employed at the base comprised scientists, security personnel, and employees from various corporations who were servicing military contracts. [31] There were four extraterrestrial races he claimed worked at Dulce: the standard ‘short’ Grays’ from Zeta Reticulum (approx 4ft in height); tall Grays from Rigel, Orion (7 ft); and Reptilian species either native to Earth or from the Draco star system in Orion (ranging from 6-8 ft). Castello claims that the earth based Reptilians, who he described as the ‘working caste’, were led by a winged Reptilian species he described as the Draco (ETs from Orion). [32] He said that the short grays (depicted in movies such as Close Encounters of the Third Kind) are subservient to the Draco Reptilians. Castello says he was employed as a ‘Senior Security Technician’ at the Dulce facility and that his primary job function was to sort out any security issues between the resident ET races and the human employees at the base. He described some of his job functions and the ET hierarchy in response to a question by Branton about how often he communicated with the different ET species:

Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that involved security or video cameras, I was the one they called. It was the reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the lower levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white Draco. When human workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian 'boss', and the Draco called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending problem. Several human workers resented the "no nonsense" or "get back to work" attitude the working caste lives by. When needed, intervention became a vital tool. The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered around near the "OFF LIMITS" areas of the "Alien Section." I guess it's human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past the barriers. Too often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed around. The camera's near the entrance usually stopped them before they got themselves in serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the return of a human worker. [33]
Castello claimed that the different projects at Dulce involved reverse engineering of ET technology, development of mind control methods; and genetic experiments involving cloning and creating human-ET hybrids. Similar projects have been conducted at Montauk, Long Island and Brookhaven laboratories [34] and been the subject of a number of other whistleblower testimonies. [35]



posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 03:56 AM
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These projects were scattered among the seven levels of the Dulce underground base with the ETs occupying the deepest levels, five to seven. These lower levels were described by Castello as an extremely old series of natural caverns that had been used in the past by different ET races. In response to a question concerning the Caverns origin, he stated:

Nature started the caverns. The Draco [reptilian humanoids] used the caverns and tunnels for centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it was enlarged repeatedly. The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur springs that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. [36]
In describing the way command was shared at the joint base between the US government and the ET races, Castello said:

The worker caste [Reptilian] does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species. It is their job to formulate the proper mixture for the type one and type two beings that the Draco Race has created. The working caste work at the labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all levels of the Dulce Base. There are several different 'races' of aliens that work on the east section of level six…. That section is commonly called "the alien section." The Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5-6-7 levels. The humans are second in command of those levels. [37]

Castello says that he directly witnessed the products of the trans-species genetic experiments in the sixth level of the facility. Most disturbing was his discovery that humans were used as a kind of laboratory animal in the lowest level where they were placed in cold storage, used as test subjects in mind-control programs, and even used in genetic experiments. Castello wrote: “Level #7 is worse, row after row of thousands of humans and human mixtures in cold storage. Here too are embryo storage vats of Humanoids in various stages of development. ‘I frequently encountered humans in cages, usually dazed or drugged, but sometimes they cried and begged for help.’” [38]

Castello claims he was told in his initial briefing that the humans suffered different forms of insanity and were being subjected to a range of high-risk medical procedures and mind control experiments designed to treat insanity. He claims that he and other human workers were exposed daily to signs that said: “this site does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity, please, never speak to the inmates, it can destroy years of work." [39]

Castello argues that he performed his duties without any great problem until he began to suspect that rather than being insane, the humans were normal civilians who were simply abducted to be used as laboratory animals by the Grey and Reptilian ET races:

I'm sensible, when doctors say don't speak to them, who was I to destroy the delicate situation? But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly stated that he was George S---- and that he had been kidnapped and he was sure someone was searching for him. I don't know why he sticks in my mind, I found I was remembering his face, thinking he sure didn't look or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The next weekend I convinced a friend of mine, a cop, to run a check on the guy, saying I had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention the base at all. It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S. was missing. [40]
It was the realization that the humans were ordinary civilians abducted from that led to Castello’s decision to join a small number of other base personnel in helping free the trapped humans.
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for more, please read the entire report of Dr Salla, with other witnesses
exopolitics.org...
It is incredible how the UN doesn't take care of that common human issue that cannot stay hidden inside a secret US base



posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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So basically with this news conference, this is the first I've read about it, it basically didn't have any hard evidence, was just more of an FYI or what was the reason for the conference to begin with?





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