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Central London CCTV ruled ILLEGAL - ahead of G20 summit

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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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reply to post by arizonascott
 


Already getting the white wash on the protesters. Wall Street Journal.

Know your G20 Protesters

No witnesses, and please don't inspire the US Sheeple to take action.




posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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I don't think you Londerners will get "false flagged'. Me, I live in the US, but I can't help but feel that the PTB need to sit sometimes.

They won't like it with their rear ends chewed of. Take care ---PC



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by dodgygeeza
Wow, what a coincidence right?!........

Doesn't this seem a little suspicious to anyone? I wonder if something big happens during the G20 summit as the so-called "terror alert" will have you believe?

If (god forbid) something happens, there will be much less chance of having any kind of surveillance.

Perhaps if something does happen, people will cry out for yet more CCTV that will never be switched off and higher resolution?

This doesn't seem to have any kind of logic to it, especially when security must be so high

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

This comes at the same time that the obvious scaremongering propaganda is released about 5 would be bombers at the G20

Five Britons arrested over G20 explosives stunt plan

Plot to disrupt G20 summit follows warnings by police that protesters are planning to bring London to a standstill

I think we need some people from ATS to take a camera just for the purposes of monitoring the situation because I'm pretty sure the police will know damn well that they are not being watched.......... oh wait, it's now illegal to record police officers


So, there will be literally no evidence, and if you somehow come up with any videos or photos of police brutality you'll be labelled a terrorist.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by dodgygeeza]


I'll put $500 bucks on nothings going to happen, except the usual
egg and shoe throwing. They will probably have a Anti-Shoe Defence
system in place though, and you'd have to launch from outside of London.


What sort of odds are you going to give me.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by skeptic_al

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
Wow, what a coincidence right?!........

Doesn't this seem a little suspicious to anyone? I wonder if something big happens during the G20 summit as the so-called "terror alert" will have you believe?

If (god forbid) something happens, there will be much less chance of having any kind of surveillance.

Perhaps if something does happen, people will cry out for yet more CCTV that will never be switched off and higher resolution?

This doesn't seem to have any kind of logic to it, especially when security must be so high

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

This comes at the same time that the obvious scaremongering propaganda is released about 5 would be bombers at the G20

Five Britons arrested over G20 explosives stunt plan

Plot to disrupt G20 summit follows warnings by police that protesters are planning to bring London to a standstill

I think we need some people from ATS to take a camera just for the purposes of monitoring the situation because I'm pretty sure the police will know damn well that they are not being watched.......... oh wait, it's now illegal to record police officers


So, there will be literally no evidence, and if you somehow come up with any videos or photos of police brutality you'll be labelled a terrorist.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by dodgygeeza]


I'll put $500 bucks on nothings going to happen, except the usual
egg and shoe throwing. They will probably have a Anti-Shoe Defence
system in place though, and you'd have to launch from outside of London.


What sort of odds are you going to give me.



I agree with you. And that's Londoners, and the PTB with their rear ends chewed off. Take care ----------------------------------- PC



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by dodgygeeza

I think we need some people from ATS to take a camera just for the purposes of monitoring the situation because I'm pretty sure the police will know damn well that they are not being watched...

[edit on 30-3-2009 by dodgygeeza]


I'm on no-one's side here. Neither police nor protesters. I work in around the city (delivery-dude). My camera is already charged and packed.

Unfortunately work regard me as a potential trouble maker. Head office sent a memo down yesterday. My immediate superior made a point (albeit in good humour) of highlighting the line that read,

"Do not antagonise any protesters."

Moi?



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by Now_Then
The BBC is saying....


The DfT said it has not prevented the use of the cameras for any other purposes but added that the cameras need to be upgraded for parking enforcement.
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So if that's the case isn't this a storm in a tea cup?

Or would the offices that monitor the cameras be shut down? - they are wireless, presumably they could be accessed by the security.



LOL... Debunked on page 1...



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by star in a jar
How boneheaded can the police and the government be by actually calling their operation "Operation Glencoe?"



I think they are emulating Obamas Gallows Humor.
Or, they named it that to purposefully rile people up.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 12:25 AM
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This is so typically the "in your face" lying that we have been made to listen to -
and pretend that we don't recognize.
The arrogance of these bast--rds!

They don't want pictures of what happens.
Period.
Hello Nazi England.




[edit on 31-3-2009 by spinkyboo]



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by wonderworld

UK Metropolitan Police are using social networks such as Twitter and Facebook to monitor protests due to take place in London over the next few days. If someone already posted this sorry.

It wouldnt stop here. I suspect ATS will also be watched!


Why, are people conspiring on ATS to go around smashing up property, committing violence and generally showing the world why the human race are still a very long way from being the most intelligent species on the planet? If so I want no further part of this website!



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 02:44 AM
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Freewill of thought and discovery; a gift of the Creator unto man.

Enslaved will of thought and discovery, your beast of burden.

Demand answers if something does not make sense with 'reason'.

What holds you back? Too complicated?

Everything has a trail as the Snake has a tail.

Where is the head???

Why does it hide?

Why is this secret?

Does truth, reason and jurisprudence reside in the dark or in the Light?

What are the consequences?

Are they 'acceptable'?

Are you 'satisfied'?

Do you long for the days when 'Brother' was your neighbor?

Did you ever bear witness?

Most of what is termed 'enlightenment' these days are simply 'wasting' energy.

If E=MC^2 then how does Quantum what?

But what about.....

Just reading this kind of stuff can give one the 'impression' that it's not meant to be understood, better yet pursued?

Strange world we live in?

Who is the 'stranger' and why?

Who gave you that impression and why?

Energy is Free.

You pay?

Why?

The 'scales of justice' appear to reside in the bowels of the beast.

The Head comes 'full circle' in the End.

Foolishness always begets the fooled.

Everyone who attacked myself has met a bitter end.

I had nothing to do with their fate.

This is what one would term 'amazing'?

One is truely the author of 'their' fate.

You have a choice.



[edit on 31-3-2009 by Perseus Apex]



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:18 AM
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I am one who doesnt believe in the 911 conspiracy theories. Yeah, yeah, I know, my head is in the sand


what do you belive?

try this one... www.abovetopsecret.com...
it is more recent (today) ow and there is a link to 911.(again)

no offence.. just happens to happen

there are 3 kind off people

Those who say

- it's gonna happen !! (know it,action)


- whats gonna happen (sit back , wait)


- What happend? (Don't want to know)


Who are you?

and more important to all

who you wanna be ?!?


you know what i am gonna make this a new topic..




[edit on 31-3-2009 by whatshenneping]



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Well, regardless of what either sides motives will be, the best thing to do for the protesters would be to bring cameras, lots of em.

Just in case a few rookie riot cops decide the lack of surveillance might allow them to bend the rules a bit.
Same goes for catching protesters who feel the same way.

Footage is always best in the hands of the civilians in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by johnsky

Just in case a few rookie riot cops decide the lack of surveillance might allow them to bend the rules a bit.


There are an estimated 10,000 CCTVs in central London, the vast majority under private control - it's only a few of those in the hands of the authorities which may possibly not be allowed to be used for traffic surveillance purposes.

There will also likely be rather a lot of TV cameras around too.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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and anyway, the police have never worried about twatting people around the head infront of cameras before. They can just say "they started it miss" (I've seen it with my own eyes)

Anyone going, read up on effective ways to protect yourself in the event that you find yourself in a riot.

www.schnews.org.uk...
(the "pamphlet" which "anarchists" are said distributing for tomorows protests, as you can see, it says don't fight)

[edit on 31/3/2009 by Acidtastic]



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 06:34 AM
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Don't 'listen' to me.

Listen to yourself.

It's in there or you wouldn't be 'here'.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by wonderworld

UK Metropolitan Police are using social networks such as Twitter and Facebook to monitor protests due to take place in London over the next few days. If someone already posted this sorry.

It wouldnt stop here. I suspect ATS will also be watched!


Why, are people conspiring on ATS to go around smashing up property, committing violence and generally showing the world why the human race are still a very long way from being the most intelligent species on the planet? If so I want no further part of this website!


No, it's simply because it's another forum where free speech on politics is not censored or controlled.

Obviously the UK government now finds "political opinion" against government a cause for suspicion. Just look at the arrests reported yesterday.

Anywhere where free speech and free political opinion is permitted will be monitored by HM Gov, I've no doubt many of us have been added to lists already for having "opinions against the state".

If you criticize the government (UK or US) you'll be being watched to some degree on one site or another.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by johnsky
Well, regardless of what either sides motives will be, the best thing to do for the protesters would be to bring cameras, lots of em.

Just in case a few rookie riot cops decide the lack of surveillance might allow them to bend the rules a bit.
Same goes for catching protesters who feel the same way.

Footage is always best in the hands of the civilians in my opinion.


why can they just come up with the real reason why to turn the cams of. it's ridiculous. be clear!!!

but this guy just points out the solution. just get on the streets and get your cams and beer in a glove. have a good night. cheers



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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Could the problem be that under data protection laws you can ask for any recorded item which includes your image on it, of course this is bound in red tape and you have to have a valid reason, but I assume that saying you where pick pocketed is good enough. Now if 10,000 protesters all did the same then it would be a logistical nightmare for the cops and a win for the protesters. Unless the camera's were off of course.

[edit on 31/3/2009 by spitefulgod]



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by ivycutler
reply to post by czacza1
 




to reduce possible evidence of police actions taken against protestants.


is that a spelling mistake?

or a reference to Glen Coe?




spelling, sorry for that.



posted on Mar, 31 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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You lot crack me right up.

One minute 'we're the most watched country on the planet OMG its disgraceful'.

Next thing it's 'OMG the police took down all the cameras its disgraceful k thx bai'.

Let me put it in stark terms. They are PARKING enforcement cameras. Get a grip.



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