I chose to use "Deliberate False Stories" because there is indeed a problem with Hoaxes on ATS. It is fairly clear than no one will mistake "collaborative writing" for any attempt at truth, when it is in the forum title.

Content appropriate locations are part of the ATS board, and I was simply making a query about that.

Logic before emotion.

The writers have made a knee jerk reaction to a simple query and have reacted with emotion. Antar thought I was trying to abolish Collaborative writing. I made it very clear in my first paragraph of my OP that I was not asking to do that, yet it was ignored.

The point is to place fictional works where it belongs, BTS. Hoaxes are shut down when encountered and it seems illogical to host fictional writing on ATS alongside serious discussions, when ATS has specifically set up BTS for such fictional content.

I make a query and get bashed for it. Emotional responses seem to be the oder of the day. No point in my responding any more to those who wish to pick apart my words rather than discuss board policy.


[edit on 29/3/09 by Terapin]

Uh....hum? Why don't you just ignore those boards. You obviously have something against them so why do you even go to them.
Why complain when all you have to do is ignore them.

This is one of the reasons I was so hesitant to even participate in the collaborative writing.

I’m so sick and tired of the nit picking and griping and the idiotic back biting trash that goes on when a bunch of adults are gathered in one spot I could puke.

If you don’t like the collaborative writing, if it’s not bothering you or yours, if it doesn’t cost you anything, if it doesn’t make your eyes bleed when you open up ATS, then why not just leave it alone?

People complain about how nothing in the world is left without someone coming along to spoil it - and I’m beginning to agree.
People can’t just leave well enough alone!

Newspapers have advice columns, funny pages, the weather and horoscope and more - right along side of breaking news.
Big deal.

There was a time people would applaud something like the Collaboration, even if they didn’t read it.
Now?
People just don’t care about anything if they’re not tearing it down, especially when it’s something good!

I'm out (of this thread).

Thanks for trying to ruin something good.

peace

EDIT: I've been receiving U2U's from people concerned *I'm Out* means I am leaving the Space Opera.
No, *I'm Out* means I'll leave this thread before breaking ATS rules.

The nay sayers opinions of the Space Opera mean SQUAT to me.
I would never allow negative opinions to dictate my participation on ATS.
I live in the freedom of not caring what you think.
Don't like what I write, put me on ignore.

peace

[edit on 29-3-2009 by silo13]

It is a simple query. Should the fictional works of Collaborative Writing be placed with all the other Entertainment content on BTS, or is there a reason it merits being kept on the Conspiracy related ATS?

I ask that and what do I get from the Writers?
Antar states: "I find this kind of difficult to understand, would you prefer we keep to the serious nature of the site and get rid of the poetry, the shortstories and collaborate forums?" When I said no such thing. If you look, you will see that I specifically supported Fictional writing in the appropriate areas. She then goes on in another post to claim that I am "Ranting" and not asking a question about board content.

Loam starts by stating that 90% of ATS is BS and then said he doesn't care where Collaborative writing is placed. He follows that by trying to pick apart my words rather than discuss the subject.

Questiongail reads "implications" that I clearly not only did not make, but very specifically countered in my OP. She chooses to discuss her interpretations of my wording, rather than the subject.

Ant4AU states that I have " something against" collaborative writing when I clearly stated in my very first sentence that Collaborative Writing is fine, and again in other posts I encourage member creativity.

Edited to add: Silo goes of on a rant how I am destroying something good, without reading my post apparently. I am destroying nothing. I am not even suggesting that fictional writing is a bad thing.

Schrodingers Dog is the only writer thus far that has responded to my query with his thinking on why Collaborative writing is good for ATS. I happen to disagree, but I support his right to an opinion and appreciate his well thought out response. Something I expected from more Writers.

Below Top Secret is the Entertainment portal of the ATS Network. Fictional writing is indeed entertainment. It is sometimes even good fiction and deserves it's own special spot. I simply feel that there is a difference between ATS and BTS as far as content goes, and this seems to be supported by the stated purpose of the ATS network. That is the crux of the matter. I believe we all have seen threads moved over to BTS when the content was not Conspiracy, or Alternative news related. It doesn't mean that the subject does not have merit. It simply places the content in an area that is more appropriate to the subject and thus makes it easier to find.

In a library they generally do not place books on Science, History, and Reference, in the Fictional Novels section. That does not mean that one work is any better than the other. It is just content appropriate indexing. That is why there is ATS and BTS after all. The site owners chose to create different areas, for different types of content, for a specific reason.

[edit on 29/3/09 by Terapin]

Originally posted by Terapin
Below Top Secret is the Entertainment portal of the ATS Network. Fictional writing is indeed entertainment. It is sometimes even good fiction and deserves it's own special spot. I simply feel that there is a difference between ATS and BTS as far as content goes, and this seems to be supported by the stated purpose of the ATS network. That is the crux of the matter. I believe we all have seen threads moved over to BTS when the content was not Conspiracy, or Alternative news related. It doesn't mean that the subject does not have merit. It simply places the content in an area that is more appropriate to the subject and thus makes it easier to find.

Some could argue that the whole of ATS is just entertainment. Anyone who doesn't believe the content of a thread and has their mind totally made up already is viewing the thread as entertainment.

And you do have a problem with it. Your problem is that it is on the ATS side and not the BTS side.

Terapin is right that it BELONGS in bts. You can still write stories there, but i dont have to see it in my list of recent posts.... i dont want to read your stupid made up stories.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
Terapin is right that it BELONGS in bts. You can still write stories there, but i dont have to see it in my list of recent posts.... i dont want to read your stupid made up stories.

Then don't, no one is forcing you.

I don't particularly like the title of this thread. "false stories"? Why not "creative stories"? As to where it is indexed, it's fine imo. It's catalogued in "General & Shared Topic Discussion Forums". Along with Member Introductions, Debate Forum, ATS Freshman Forum, ATS Games, etc. Should we move those to BTS as well?