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Topic started on 28-3-2009 @ 10:11 PM by rich23

Fox News Secedes From America


www.newscorpse.com
It was just a matter of time. With all of the white-hot, ultra-hyperbolic invective radiating from Fox News screens across the land, there was really no escaping the obvious end game. The usual suspects in the Fox Confederacy have been so filled with revulsion by the neo-Socialist path that they believe the country is on, that they can no longer abide nor accept it. So now Fox News is preparing to depart from the union with a fanfare, a blast of light, a loud swoosh and gong. And an advertising campaign.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 28-3-2009 @ 10:31 PM by rich23
reply to post by yellowcard


You have completely missed the point of the article. I hope that the extra paragraph I quoted puts it into the proper perspective for you.


reply posted on 28-3-2009 @ 10:35 PM by yellowcard
Originally posted by rich23
reply to post by yellowcard


You have completely missed the point of the article. I hope that the extra paragraph I quoted puts it into the proper perspective for you.


I don't think I missed the point, I'm just commenting on perception vs reality on the network fronts, more a reinforcement than anything. I do hate that when people say that everything from Fox is just propaganda, or that now everything from the Republican party says is also 100% wrong; because that's ridiculous. That's the agenda that networks like MSNBC are pushing though, Olberman spends at least 5 minutes of each show discrediting (usually falsely, but not always) something that a Fox News person has said. I wish journalism would make a comeback and people would stop putting their spin on it...but as it stands now, Fox News is actually probably the only network that isn't going to be kissing up to the Obama administration and backing all of their decisions with blind faith; whatever their motive is, I don't care, it's actually shedding more light on the administration this way.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by yellowcard]


reply posted on 28-3-2009 @ 11:25 PM by rich23
Hmmm...

way too many people are looking at this in a partisan way.

My perception is that people like Alex Jones and Ron Paul are starting to get traction because everyone's fed up with the corruption that's almost structurally a part of US politics. Some people thought it was going to change with Obama, and they're disappointed.

Some people (Republicans in particular) see Obama doing the same kind of thing they didn't like Bush doing - not all Republicans liked Bush - and more people are waking up to the agenda that is being pursued.

And those people who are berating Obama for being a "Socialist" are wrong, or at least only half-right. National Socialism is more like it.

I've said it before on these boards but I think it needs saying again:

Communism is where the state takes over the corporations. Fascism is where the corporations take over the state.

For a long time, the US has been in free-fall towards fascism. When you're high up, you feel all nice and light and there's a nice breese. As the ground starts to rush towards you, you start to think about what'll happen when you crash into it.

Yes, ALL the MSM have an agenda, and the bottom line is to make money. And Fox is going after the "independent dollar" if you like. But what's also happening is that for the first time a news network is getting actively involved in the political arena. This isn't just Olbermann's two cents or O'Reilly with his dittoheads (imagine being proud to call yourself a sheep).

This is a massive, multinational corporation becoming an explicit political force.

While it's doing that, it's polarising various issues, in partuclar that of states' rights, around its own agenda. It's trying to restate the argument in its own terms.

There's quite a good documentary about the media and their power in government: Orwell rolls in his grave

It's a little dated now, and it's perhaps a little partisan. Try to see past that. If you look, you can see exactly why we're all here on the internet looking for news because the media have failed us.

Tellingly, it also predicts the reasons they'll try to restrict the internet. And they're all reasons you'll recognise from recent threads on ATS.


reply posted on 28-3-2009 @ 11:29 PM by rich23
reply to post by xmotex


Those are all good points, and they are some of the people that Fox is targeting. But I'd say they're also trying to co-opt the people who might otherwise find common ground with the independents and libertarians, and they'll be controlling the discussion and skewing the issues to create as much havoc on all parties as they can.

Hope you're wrong about the violence. Not betting on it though.


reply posted on 28-3-2009 @ 11:31 PM by rich23
reply to post by dragonridr


That's what I'm saying - and they will try and bring the argument to places that suit them.

I could even see them pursuing some sort of agenda that covertly supports greater internet control while apparently pursuing an independent line.
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