Christ and Satan have both incarnated.

I guess my friends were right, little point in continuing a discussion like
this on a forum where no one is really interested in educating themselves
in things they can't see or hear with their physical senses.

Being called a "known hoaxer" even though I never intended anything but
providing information to people, even if not every word I say is right, (is
everything that you say right?), is really going too far for me.

I tried starting a conversation with open minds, not with angry people,
I guess many threads get ruined like this by flaming and false accusations.

Originally posted by Wehali
I have not only been given evidence, which was already
enough for me, I've also been given a repeating miracle.

I understand. But YOU have been given the evidence. Ask for some for the rest of us. Something easy, like the Stock market closing numbers for sometime next week. Any day will do.

Isn't that evidence, isn't that a miracle? Do you really think I am making
all this up? This person lives in Australia, I live in Belgium, yet with a wave
of her hand she makes my pain disappear completely.

Its evidence for you, personally. But I happen to know a lot about the power of placebo and pain. It is scientifically possible that your pain only vanishes when she does that because you believe it will. Not saying it isnt miraculous for you, I am sure it is, but give us something objective. Numbers are good because they are both precise, and, unambiguous. There is not mistaking a 6455 from 7326. It is one, or the other. Period. To an ascended master that is showing you all of these miraculous things, that shouldnt be hard. And, it is only fair that since you are not asked to believe on faith alone, YOU are being given evidence, that the rest of us should have some evidence too.

Surely someone ascended like that will be both fair and reasonable.

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So, I bring a logical argument to your story and all you can say is I should wash my brain with soap? thats rich.

I've got a couple of pieces of advise for you too.

1. Therapy
2. Rehab
3. possibly prescription medication

Who knows but we might never have had religion if anti-psychotics were available to mankind thousands of years ago.

Is it then impossible to create a thread on ATS without being flamed? Is it
impossible to have a mature conversation without being told to see a shrink
or take anti psychotics?

Meh, no wonder people say ATS is becoming humbug.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

reply to post by Wehali

I never intended to give anyone evidence man, that is completely pointless,
because even if real evidence is given on this forum, it is always discarded
by multiple people, with big explanations. It happens on every thread, on
every forum on ATS.

I hate to break it to you man, but thats what ATS is all about. Debating a subject, and bringing forth evidence to support your argument.

If you are looking for brain dead, blind faith believers with no opinion of their own, you are posting on the wrong site.

Originally posted by QBSneak000
reply to post by Wehali

 

I never intended to give anyone evidence man, that is completely pointless,
because even if real evidence is given on this forum, it is always discarded
by multiple people, with big explanations. It happens on every thread, on
every forum on ATS.

I hate to break it to you man, but thats what ATS is all about. Debating a subject, and bringing forth evidence to support your argument.

If you are looking for brain dead, blind faith believers with no opinion of their own, you are posting on the wrong site.

You're sorely mistaken, this forum is called "Predictions & Prophecies",
how is anyone going to provide rockhard EVIDENCE for that?

Isn't it much more positive to post your own beliefs of the subject rather
than break down those of others?

Please don't ruin threads in which you have no interest of positively
participating man. I see this happening in so many threads. You are
not doing anyone a favor, in the least yourself.

I posted my beliefs, I expected others to post their beliefs, their predictions,
their prophecies, what is so naïve about that? I certainly didn't expect
to get flamed for my beliefs. But maybe I should have, I just hoped
for some maturity.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

do you believe this guy? LOL
His source for this is the "light spirit world"

were do all these crazy people come from?

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
do you believe this guy? LOL
His source for this is the "light spirit world"

were do all these crazy people come from?

What do you expect on a forum that is called "Predictions & Prophecies"?

Aren't you the crazy one here, expecting to see evidence for predictions
and prophecies that have yet to happen, or that no one can really confirm?

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

do you believe this guy? LOL
His source for this is the "light spirit world"

were do all these crazy people come from?

reply to post by QBSneak000


ahah

oh well atleast one can try i guess..

But back to the topic at hand!! i still have a question

what made you make this thread? was it to inform us lesser people or was it your own self importance that was bistowed on you from a higher being..

You say that god and satand have both been incarnated on the earth.. funny realy seeing that we have not seen the lord or his angle of death..

i wish to understand !!

Originally posted by Wehali
I guess my friends were right, little point in continuing a discussion like
this on a forum where no one is really interested in educating themselves
in things they can't see or hear with their physical senses.

I take issue with that.
I am a spiritual person...not religious , but spiritual.... and things i can't see or hear with my senses are some of my favourite things and subjects.
However... telling people on a site such as this...with many free thinkers and great minds... that christ and satan have both come back in the flesh.... because one of your mates said so.... and expecting people to believe it...is frankly ludicrous....it's no better than the GFL crap....which is why i brought it up.

Being called a "known hoaxer" even though I never intended anything but
providing information to people, even if not every word I say is right, (is
everything that you say right?), is really going too far for me.

Nice deflection...
But i am not starting threads about nonsense.... or saying that jesus or the devil is back on earth...in the flesh..
Or i didn't start going on about a supposed 3.5 billion year old federation of alien species..

I mean come on???
What did you expect??

I tried starting a conversation with open minds, not with angry people,
I guess many threads get ruined like this by flaming and false accusations.

We are the most open of minds on the net my friend....
Just don't like being hoaxed and lied to.

Why not start a thread saying "what IF jesus and satan came back"?

That is better than the nonsense that you proposed in this thread, people would be open to discuss then.

We don't like hoaxes or hoaxers on ATS.... simple.

[edit on 28/3/09 by blupblup]

reply to post by Wehali


True, predictions are hard to provide evidence to BUT. So far in my experience there hasn't been any that have come true yet.

Also, the evidence people are asking you for here is regarding your contacting these entities, not in the message.

Don't get me wrong, im not here to flame you. Its just that you aren't giving yourself much credibility. As someone pointed out before regarding your stance on the Blossom Goodchild thread. Sure you say you recanted before the date was due, but how do you think people are going to react to this new post of yours considering the past?

So when 2012 comes around and nothing happens like you foretell, are you going to post a recant weeks before?

If you don't want people to make fun, as I admittedly have done with my comments about therapy and medication (and I apologize) , maybe don't insult peoples intelligence by saying they should wash their brains out with coarse soap for only bringing a logical poitn of view to your thread

I am sorry if I seem harsh but if you have spoken to angels and or ascended masters and they speak back to you then you are listening to invisible beings and talking to them, that is classically called a psychotic episode.

Rational people who do not see invisible people that guide them and talk to them often feel sorry for people who have these episodes and we often try and help them to form relationships outside of their delusional state.

I know that the only voice in my head I hear is my own. Well sometimes I hear my mom in my head when I am doing something that is likely to get me injured or killed but I tend to chalk that up to remembering what she would have said about the subject so it is still me.

I will submit that the voices you hear or the beings that you think visit you are of your own creation with the power of your own mind and they say to you what you need to hear for yourself. Why do you think they always know what you are thinking? Could it be that you create these delusions with your own mind?

reply to post by Wehali



There are no "circles of hell."

The Bible doesn't talk about the "circles of hell" anywhere in the enitre book.

In fact, the Bible doesn't say much about hell and what it really is.

The whole idea about hell having different levels known as "circles" or lower levels, was an idea that was created by the author who wrote "Dante's Inferno."

A satirical, fictional novel.

You know, I don't remember seeing heaven or hell any where within the astral plane.

I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

reply to post by FlyersFan


your statement is bible correct! i am sure christ also said "i" will come again with glory to ....!

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
reply to post by QBSneak000

 

ahah

oh well atleast one can try i guess..

But back to the topic at hand!! i still have a question

what made you make this thread? was it to inform us lesser people or was it your own self importance that was bistowed on you from a higher being..

You say that god and satand have both been incarnated on the earth.. funny realy seeing that we have not seen the lord or his angle of death..

i wish to understand !!

No, it was to try and get a positive discussion started about this subject. It
was to hear other people's predictions and prophecies, it was to hear other
people's spiritual experiences, it was to try and answer genuine questions
from interested people.

I don't know why I'm even trying at all. At least I got positive reactions in
my U2U box.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

reply to post by Wehali


Wehali i myself have experienced the same..but Satan is the one who wants me he told me i am an important part of his plan for the new darkness that is rising. He told me to choose wisely for time is short..however if i choose Christ and the archangels i will be seen as an enemy of the legions of the damned if i chose Satan it will be vice versa..

when he spoke to me in my dreams he refers to hell as the "Furnace" and claims that although thrown from heaven the furnace is just the "engine" room of Heaven and is not that bad and christianity is just a sham and that i would of joined him sooner had St Michael not been watching me. He told me that i am an important part in the master plan.. when i awoke from the old man's face i asked my angels..


3 day's later i got a reply from my angels in a coincidence by a friend of mine where as we were talking about our military history papers he mentioned me as the sort to being a "Field Commander" whether that be for Satan or for God i do not know. The same night my guardian angel a beautiful blonde woman who calls herself "Laurania" told me the same whoever i choose it will be important a Soldier of God or a Commander of Satan

I am still thinking of my choices for the moment i am inching towards the light but not much

These events with other types have given me a solid belief that Heaven and Hell are real

Originally posted by dalan.
reply to post by Wehali

 

There are no "circles of hell."

The Bible doesn't talk about the "circles of hell" anywhere in the enitre book.

In fact, the Bible doesn't say much about hell and what it really is.

The whole idea about hell having different levels known as "circles" or lower levels, was an idea that was created by the author who wrote "Dante's Inferno."

A satirical, fictional novel.

You know, I don't remember seeing heaven or hell any where within the astral plane.

I must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

I have never read the Bible, or any other religious dogmatic scripture, so
I really wouldn't know. I only know what I've experienced and have been
told by sources who've proved themselves to me.

I'm surprised that what I say has correlation with religions, I didn't really
expect that. Like I said, I've never studied any religious scripture, I don't
see the point, because I rather stick to what I experienced myself.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]

Originally posted by Raider of Truth
reply to post by Wehali

 

Wehali i myself have experienced the same..but Satan is the one who wants me he told me i am an important part of his plan for the new darkness that is rising. He told me to choose wisely for time is short..however if i choose Christ and the archangels i will be seen as an enemy of the legions of the damned if i chose Satan it will be vice versa..

when he spoke to me in my dreams he refers to hell as the "Furnace" and claims that although thrown from heaven the furnace is just the "engine" room of Heaven and is not that bad and christianity is just a sham and that i would of joined him sooner had St Michael not been watching me. He told me that i am an important part in the master plan.. when i awoke from the old man's face i asked my angels..


3 day's later i got a reply from my angels in a coincidence by a friend of mine where as we were talking about our military history papers he mentioned me as the sort to being a "Field Commander" whether that be for Satan or for God i do not know. The same night my guardian angel a beautiful blonde woman who calls herself "Laurania" told me the same whoever i choose it will be important a Soldier of God or a Commander of Satan

I am still thinking of my choices for the moment i am inching towards the light but not much

These events with other types have given me a solid belief that Heaven and Hell are real

I'm happy that someone has the courage to post his own experiences, I do
believe everything you say you've experienced, because me as well as my
friend have been contacted by the Darkness, and asked to join them.

However, because I know that Darkness is nothing but lack of love, and that
all dark roads are dead ends, that all darkness, all dark entities, will once
have to convert to the Light, if they want to continue developing, I had no
trouble choosing for the Light. I paid for that choice by becoming an enemy
to the dark legions, but I'm slowly learning to defend myself, my friends also
do their best defending me until I can take care of myself.

My friend was also contacted to join the dark legions, but he too rejected,
luckily he's a Light Warrior by soul, and has little problems beating back
the attacks they launch on him.

My friend, if you want to become more informed about both sides, if you
want to make a choice, then please talk to me in private. I will tell you
about both choices, but if you choose the Light, then we will protect you
from attacks from the dark legions.

I know my words sound archaic, but there's just no other way to talk about
these things. Please contact me, I will send you my email over U2U. I'll
do my best to help you make an informed choice.. it's so important to be
informed before choosing. I will not judge you whichever choice you make,
because I know both Light and Darkness have their place in this Creation.

[edit on (28/3/09) by Wehali]