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Originally posted by Chadwickus
You know I don't think (genuine) contactees or abductees would make much money from their experiences.
It's the charlatans who either take advantage of these people or fake their own experience themselves that make the dollars.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
The man owns an apartment in NY and cabin out in the country.
The man is rich and that is not speculation.
Originally posted by Sam60
I think that with some of the people argued about as potential "get rich contactees", the drive for attention is as strong as the drive to get rich. I also think that some of these people just get so far "into it" , they find it hard to back out because of their fear of personal embarassment & ridicule.
Originally posted by Malcram
Strieber definitely doesn't count...
Originally posted by Sam60
I think that with some of the people argued about as potential "get rich contactees", the drive for attention is as strong as the drive to get rich. I also think that some of these people just get so far "into it" , they find it hard to back out because of their fear of personal embarassment & ridicule.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
This is what? The fourth or fifth thread in a week that is about the horrors of skeptics? Either way, I'm running out of fingers to count on...
The entire premise of this thread is flawed.
First, it assumes that this accusation, though leveled by individuals, is the stance of every skeptic or that every skeptic on ATS has made the accusation (or at least supports it).
One of the most frequent ad hominem attacks one comes across is the accusation that "they're only in it for the money".
How can you demand or challenge people who have never made the claim to defend the claim?
Second, it assumes that there have never been people who have used the UFO phenomenon for their own selfish ends.
The amount of charlatans and hucksters that plague this field should tell you that isn't true.
Third, it ignores the fact that "being in it for the money" and "getting rich" are not one-in-the-same. To use a more mundane example, many of us are not working in a field we love, but rather have a job because it "pays the bills." In other words, we're in it for the money, but with full knowledge we'll never be rich.
Originally posted by dragonridr
Id like to put up the city of Roswell as a candidate they have been making money of tourists and lots of it. They have taken it to the extreme.
And heres my proof! roswell
Originally posted by rich23
It says it's a frequent attack. It doesn't go anywhere near saying what you impute.
Originally posted by rich23
You have not a shred of evidence to support this ludicrous and outrageous assertion. Evidence. That's all I want.
Originally posted by rich23
However, the accusation, which has been leveled at Jonathan Reed, Steven Greer...Whitley Streiber, is pejorative in nature and discounts the idea that they might have told their stories simply to get the information out there, not for the express purpose of making money.
Originally posted by rich23
I've never seen a picture of Whitley Streiber actually counting his money. I'm just enforcing the same standards on this as the skeptics.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Frequent implies it being common, thus my point still stands.
this accusation... is the stance of every skeptic or that every skeptic on ATS has made the accusation (or at least supports it).
Where on ATS has this become a common accusation?
And the fact it is an open challenge to any skeptic implies that this is something that all skeptics engage in.
Why not direct it towards those individuals who make the claim?
Originally posted by rich23
You have not a shred of evidence to support this ludicrous and outrageous assertion. Evidence. That's all I want.
Are you serious? Are you seriously claiming that no one has ever used the UFO phenomenon to their own selfish ends? Are you claiming that there have never been hoaxes or scams? To call the fact such things have happened a "ludicrous and outrageous" assertion says a lot.
Whether or not Strieber needed the money, it is undeniable that he did make money off of his experience. And Greer had made quite a deal of money off of his claims as well, charging hundreds of dollars for "vectoring" sessions and the like.
So, the point of this is not defending contactees who may have made money off their claims, or examine any facts for or against any accusations, but rather just to mock skeptics.