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America's fall from grace, predicted over 3000 years ago

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posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 06:10 AM
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The decline and utter destruction of the once mighty United States began in the 60's when prayer was banned from its children in school, it continued with mass murder of the unborn with the great lie of Roe v Wade, then when a vile sexaholic was not thrown out of office the slide became faster yet. Gay marriage and "rights" pretty much sealed the deal....

Now as predicted 3000 years ago hear God's words...


43The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

47Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

49The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:


www.biblegateway.com...

Illegals have more rights then "real" americans, China owns trillions in debt, and now Obamassiah has been sent to devour america with the vile satanic system of socialisim, bringing all down to his level.........so satan can rise above the children of Israel, if even for a short time....




posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime


Now as predicted 3000 years ago hear God's words...





Hear my words...









posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 07:09 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



The prophecy could just as easily be applied to the Greek invasion of Jerusalem followed centuries later by the Roman occupation.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime


Now as predicted 3000 years ago hear God's words...


Funnily enough, you'd have to be pretty Ameri-centric to see that applying to America. That vague-as-possible, catch-all prophecising is meant to be specifically about America? Doesn't fit anywhere else? No other country or social situation in the last few thousand years? It was all just leading up to America?

Of course there's the extra inference that 'America, the Land of the Free' was destined and foretold in the bible. Part of this weird thing the American Right has where somehow JesusGod is theirs?


Illegals have more rights then "real" americans, China owns trillions in debt,


Notice how you had to qualify the 'real' in your phrase '"real" americans'? You knew it wouldn't stand up due to inherent hypocrisy as you were actually writing it.


and now Obamassiah has been sent to devour america with the vile satanic system of socialisim, bringing all down to his level.........so satan can rise above the children of Israel, if even for a short time....


Ironically, it's been the "vile satanic system" of capitalism/Keynesianism that's actuall been the downfall of America (and the rest of the Western world) not socialism. However, don't let that get in the way of your nonsense.

I really love it when Americans intertwine ecomonics and politics with religion. Socialism = Satan but the American way = JesusGod.

Apparently.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime
hear God's words...

You sure about that? Some of the bible is deep spirituality. Some is myth. Some is stolen from the Summerians and Egyptians. Some is just political posturing. Some is social rules being made 'God's rules' to keep the people in line. Some is brilliant. Some is ignorant. Some is history. Some is ________. (fill in the blank).

Are you sure God wrote that prophecy? I'm not.

Considering it is (allegedly) 3,000 years old, it could apply to anyone at any time. There have been MANY civilizations that have risen and fallen during that time.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by masqua


The prophecy could just as easily be applied to the Greek invasion of Jerusalem followed centuries later by the Roman occupation.


Deu 28 is both the blessing and curses given to his people he brought out of eqypt. It stands for all time for the tribes of Israel. America is made up of many of the lost tribes of Israel and had been blessed since it's founding for following the commandments of God. The time of blessing has passed becuase of the vileness america has allowed to grow.........

There is no time limit on God..................



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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China owns trillions in debt
Actually as of Jan 09 we only owe china around 700 billion dollars. The total debt we owe to foreign countries government is on 3 trillion. The rest is held by private companies and individuals throughout the USA and the World. They are the single highest owner of our debt but by no means do we owe them trillions like you claim.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by tide88]



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Are you sure God wrote that prophecy? I'm not.



Well since the orignal 5 books of Moses were dictated directly from God himself......I'm pretty sure....



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Merriman Weir

Ironically, it's been the "vile satanic system" of capitalism/Keynesianism that's actuall been the downfall of America (and the rest of the Western world) not socialism. However, don't let that get in the way of your nonsense.

I really love it when Americans intertwine ecomonics and politics with religion. Socialism = Satan but the American way = JesusGod.

Apparently.


err, actually the vileness of barney Frankless and the congress insisting on providing loans to those who could not afford them is and always will be the thing that crushed the economy.

AIG isn't the villian here, it is Fannie and Freddy, Chris Dodd and barney frankless. The interferance of congress in the capital system IS the propblem. Lead by the Godless vileness of; Queen of the damned pelosi, prince of darkness harry reed, the ultra vile frank, and crooked dodd.

Them in power is Gods curse............along with obamassiah.......



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime

Originally posted by masqua


The prophecy could just as easily be applied to the Greek invasion of Jerusalem followed centuries later by the Roman occupation.


Deu 28 is both the blessing and curses given to his people he brought out of eqypt. It stands for all time for the tribes of Israel. America is made up of many of the lost tribes of Israel and had been blessed since it's founding for following the commandments of God. The time of blessing has passed becuase of the vileness america has allowed to grow.........

There is no time limit on God..................


There's two ways of looking at this. You're either claiming that it must be about America because America's made-up from many lost tribes of Israel due to the fact it has various immigrant populations America has. If that's the case, why isn't this equally applicable to the (mainly European) countries these people originally came from?

Or if you're suggesting that the lost tribes are Native Americans, then the rest of your claim doesn't really make much sense unless the 'stranger within' refers to white Americans of European ancestry who've shafted the land and the people there before them. Which would be a bit ironic, wouldn't it?



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime
err, actually the vileness of barney Frankless and the congress insisting on providing loans to those who could not afford them is and always will be the thing that crushed the economy.


Despite the fantastically numerous times it's been explained on here, nothing to do with the recent financial implosion is actually 'socialist' as you're claiming.

I hope your McCarthyism helps you sleep better at night.


[edit on 28-3-2009 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Merriman Weir

There's two ways of looking at this. You're either claiming that it must be about America because America's made-up from many lost tribes of Israel due to the fact it has various immigrant populations America has. If that's the case, why isn't this equally applicable to the (mainly European) countries these people originally came from?




“And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath, and for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon, and for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills, and for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof…let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph [Ephraim and Manasseh both]…. His glory is like the firstling [firstborn—birthright holder] of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns [Great Britain’s national seal today]: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh” (Deut. 33:13-17).


www.keyofdavid.com...

This will explain...........



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Despite the fantastically numerous times it's been explained on here, nothing to do with the recent financial implosion is actually 'socialist' as you're claiming.

I hope your McCarthyism helps you sleep better at night.


[edit on 28-3-2009 by Merriman Weir]


The obviously you do not understand what socialisim is..........

Oh and McCarthy was a hero and has been proven right many times over...



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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pretty exciting stuff. almost makes me want to convert. sounds like a real riot.

so i'm guessing god doesn't hand out consulation prizes? there's no way to just say, come in second? 3rd place might be ok, bronze is still in style.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by heliosprime

The obviously you do not understand what socialisim is..........


Really? Even though I am a socialist?

Seriously, this has been gone over many times on this forum 'post-bail out'. Just because it suits the American scare-mongering (religious) right to call the financial collapse 'socialist', it really doesn't make it socialist.

Genuine question, where's the ownership to the means of production? It's incredibly difficult to get unions organised in America never mind own and control the means of production, so how can any of this be socialist?

What has happened means that for the rest of your life (and probably your children and your grandchildren), you're going to be paying off the costs of the greed of the rich. You've been guaranteed a place under a yoke whilst others have been placed on a yacht. That's not socialism and it's not socialism if it means that there's to jig the economy to return to perpetuate the existing America economic/political model (which isn't socialism).

Even the threat of a New World Order isn't socialist, no matter how many times idiots confuse totalitarianism/authoritarianism and socialism either through ignorance or wilful scaremongering.


Oh and McCarthy was a hero and has been proven right many times over...


Oh, the brainwashing worked then?



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 03:17 PM
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Let me guess.

You are waiting for your white sheet outfit and pointy hat to come back from the Dry Cleaners, it is Saturday and there is no church today and you are bored, so you decided to kill a little time by going on-line to post this venomous rubbish?

It would appear your concept of God is biased, vengeful and intolerant. Apparently, not the same one as mine.

It is posts like this which reminds me that for some human beings, their gene pool only has a shallow end.

KK

[edit on 28-3-2009 by kinda kurious]



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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I get scared just knowing that there are people walking around who believe these things.

Oh, BTW, that "prediction" was written long before the USA existed. So it surely didn't apply to the States.


Originally posted by heliosprime

AIG isn't the villian here, it is Fannie and Freddy, Chris Dodd and barney frankless. The interferance of congress in the capital system IS the propblem. Lead by the Godless vileness of; Queen of the damned pelosi, prince of darkness harry reed, the ultra vile frank, and crooked dodd.

Them in power is Gods curse............along with obamassiah.......



I see that you too have nicknames for people in government, just as I do.
The only difference is that I used to call Cheney "The Anti-Christ" and Bush "Rasputin"

[edit on 3/29/2009 by haika]



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by haika
I get scared just knowing that there are people walking around who believe these things.

Oh, BTW, that "prediction" was written long before the USA existed. So it surely didn't apply to the States.


This ties in or supports the idea that some American believe where America was predestined in the bible and is therefore 'biblical' in itself and 'special'. After all, a lot of Americans seem to act under the impression that JesusGod is theirs and that, for some reason, JesusGod favours America above anywhere else he's allegedly created.



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
You are waiting for your white sheet outfit and pointy hat to come back from the Dry Cleaners, it is Saturday and there is no church today and you are bored, so you decided to kill a little time by going on-line to post this venomous rubbish?

It is posts like this which reminds me that for some human beings, their gene pool only has a shallow end.

KK

[edit on 28-3-2009 by kinda kurious]


Actually the seventh day is Sabbath. Sorry to disappoint you, but turned the klan down years ago............too liberal.....

For those who really want to understand, there is much to learn of the blessings on america and britian that the ignorant have thrown away.

Those who welcome evil in arogance also welcome the final death.

Britan was once the greatest empire even on earth and then america the most powerful, now both have turned their back on God and his blessings have been removed.

The election of the most vile liar of all time (obama) is just satans revenge on the lost sheep of Israel...........his time is short, has wrath great, but God will destroy him and his children forever...........very, very soon...



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 07:26 AM
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People who use God as a crutch to live their lives are truly pathetic

mindless fools. If there is somethimg wrong in your life , change it.

Saying some outside force controls your destiny is humorous .

Get a set, Man up , control your own life.







 
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