Originally posted by Hx3_1963
Government has no right under the Bill of Rights or Constitution to police the world tarnishing our reputation and squandering our hard earned
Government has no right to tell us who, what, where, when or why, we may or maynot do anything...except in the matters of intruding apon the Life,
Liberty and Happiness of our fellow citizen.
Government was never ment to be a full time job...where lawyer gather for hours on end, litigating, inventing and passing laws, that only serve the
purpose of enriching their powers.
I agree with almost all you said, except a few things.
Our forefathers had to deal with terrorism in the past too, and they responded to it with war.
The largest conflict right after the Declaration of Independence of our Republic, was the Barbary Wars.
There were two Barbary Wars, the first one was fought from 1801-1805, and the second one was fought in 1815.
The barbay Wars were fought against Islamic countries which were pillaging, raiding, kidnapping, and killing Americans, immigrants and sailors who
were sailing from Europe to the United States, and back.
The Barbary Coast, or Barbary, was the term used by Europeans from the 16th until the 19th century to refer to the middle and western coastal regions
of North Africa—what is now Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya. The name is derived from the Berber people of north Africa. In the West, the name
commonly evokes the Barbary pirates and slave traders based on that coast, who attacked ships and coastal settlements in the Mediterranean and North
Atlantic and captured and traded slaves from Europe and sub-Saharan Africa.
"Barbary" was not always a unified political entity. From the sixteenth-century onwards, it was divided into the familiar political entities of
Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, and Tripolitania (Tripoli). Major rulers during the times of the barbary states' plundering parties were the Pasha or Dey of
Algiers, the Bey of Tunis and the Bey of Tripoli, all very good subjects who were anxious to get rid of the Ottoman sultan, but were de facto
Before then the territory was usually divided between Ifriqiya, Morocco, and a west-central Algerian state centered on Tlemcen or Tiaret. Powerful
Berber dynasties such as the Almohads, and briefly the Hafsids, occasionally unified it for short periods. From a European perspective its "capital"
or chief city was often considered to be Tripoli in modern-day Libya, although Marrakesh in Morocco was the largest and most important Berber city at
the time. In addition, Algiers in Algeria and Tangiers in Morocco were also sometimes seen as its "capital".
The first United States military action overseas, executed by the U.S. Marines and Navy, was the Battle of Derne, Tripoli, in 1805. It
was an effort to destroy all of the Barbary pirates, free the American slaves in captivity, and put an end to piracy acts between these warring tribes
on the part of the Barbary states. The opening line of the "Marine's Hymn" refers to this action: "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of
So, when it comes to defending Americans, and also our interests, our forefathers also fought wars similar to the war in Iraq.
A lot of people forget that Saddam was not only a despot against his own people. Even if he never had any WMDs, Saddam had actively given money, and
even proclaimed it to the world, that he was in favor of suicide bombers, and paid large sums of monies to the families of those terrorists, and
suicide bombers who killed Israelis, and Americans.
Many Americans had lost their lives because of suicide bombers, and other terrorists, and this did not start during, or after the Iraqi, or even the
Anyway, it was also Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison the ones to come up with the Democrat-Republican Party. Which was formed by them in response
to the Federalist Party, which was created by Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton.
At first the Democrat-Republican Party was one, and it's members saw themselves mostly as Republicans, but sometimes as Democrats.
Later on the party split into the Democrat Party, and the Republican Party.
However a Democrat-Republican Party is an oxymoron, because in a Democracy the "mob rules", which means no rights for minorities if the mayority
wants it so, meanwhile a Republic stands against all forms of dictatorships, and represents all people in the Republic.
In a way the division that now plagues the United States of America was started by some of the same forefathers who founded the nation.
We all should see ourselves as Sons and Daughters of the Republic, which means we should all see ourselves as Republicans, and I am not saying that
the current Republican Party is a good example of what Americans should see themselves, since both parties have become corrupted.
But instead of trying to create more confusion by making more parties, we should stand for what ALL of our forefathers agreed to when the nation was
All of the forefathers of the Republic had different ideas on what the Republic should represent, so they had different views, but at the end they
agreed on certain unalienable rights for all future generations of America, and they also agreed on the foundations which define this Republic, and it
is written for all to see in the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution.
As for your statement that "the government should never be a full-time job", in a way I agree with you. Representatives are getting paid too much,
same as the President, and every other office in government, which in itself is an open door for corruption, and an excuse for some of the wrong
people to enter into politics.
The Republic is slowly being dismantled, and transformed into another National Socialist dictatorship, and we as Americans should not stand for
If every American were to demand for the government to uphold and defend the Constitution, the Bills of Rights, and in essence the Republic which this
nation stands for, they have to listen to us.
Slowly both parties have implemented policies that are meant to suppress us, and to stop us from questioning the government, and that is not what this
Republic was founded for.
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[edit on 28-3-2009 by ElectricUniverse]