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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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reply to post by dodadoom
 


It is frustrating.

People want to have it both ways...

Conservatives...i'm talking to you! (some of you
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How can we complain about our debts and deficit spending when yet we ignore the fact that billions upon billions of dollars has been spent on a war that could have been avoided?

Why do we ignore the fact that we've armed our enemies for years to defend our self interests...only to betray them and have them turn against us.

Why do we let our government and the federal reserve tax and inflate the money we work so hard for, only to see them force social programs and war on us....and yet still find our country with a debt that looks to be insurmountable?

We need quit meddling in the middle east. The United States brought the terror war on itself. For decades we have been intruding on their affairs.

Too many seem to not be willing to go all the way with this. The only possible way to stop the insanity is to stop ALL spending.

If we can't do this...and if we cannot support it....then why are we complaining about what Obama is doing?

As long as the war continues...our debt will continue to rise.

Save the lives of our soldiers..save the lives of innocent citizens...save our economy...and save our country!

If we can't do it the right way then we might as well let it all fall.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by David9176]




posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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reply to post by weedwhacker
 


You misunderstood me.
Revolution is perfectly acceptable to me. But make sure it is the proper kind.

Enough people in mass can forcibly change the way their rogue Government conducts business without a single shot being fired.

Problem is, it takes a bunch of them to do it.

Funny thing is, the idiots trying to get people to grab their weapons would STILL need a BUNCH of people to get it done that way.

As I said before, it is a blood-lust. And they will be beaten down if they try.


[edit on 30-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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reply to post by David9176
 


"The United States brought the terror war on itself."

You can say that again, David. The whole damned thing is a farce to begin with.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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That's the thing....why can't we set an example for the world? Why are we trying to push our "form" of democracy on the world? Why are we trying to push any American customs on the world?

Let them be. Let them be the sovereign countries that they are.

Look at what is happening with world affairs. Soon international laws will be pushed upon this country.

Our sovereignty will be gone....and we will be to blame.

We get angry at the thought of it happening to this country yet we've done it to others.

We as a people need to get our crap together before it's too late.

I am optimistic of the tea parties...but what's going to be the most important about them is how they carry out from then.

If it's all anti-Obama...it will fail. There is so much more to it than Obama.

I hope people don't make that mistake.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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Bravo, well said and hats off to U!
You summed up what I have been getting at, but
as yet have been unable to. Thank you!
Peeps forget history and it aint been that long ago!
Remember the iran/contra deals anyone?
How can this war even be justified?
I keep thinking of the pictures at abu grab prison.
We are good at creating more enemies, I must say.
(ed grimley, dont know where that came from)
We forget the real cost of failure.........human life.
We can't have it all. Where would we put it?


P.S. Thats where all this money is REALLY going!
To pay off the thugs so they wont blow us up and
make it look like we're winning the war!



[edit on 30-3-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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reply to post by David9176
 


Oh sure. I agree.

Like I've said, it requires more people to "wake up" (damn that phrase is begining to sound too cliche for me to use it).

The only revolution that will ever work here in America is a French-Style Revolution.
The other type will literally rip this nation to shreds.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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Jay, no one that I can remember ever called for grabbing their rifles and beginning the 2’nd American Revolution immediately, rather that we go with them at PORT ARMS as a show of the seriousness of the our commitment NOT to allow Comrade Obama to enslave us. Even then, upon reflection others and I realized that this would only serve the disinformation campaign of our enemies. Better to give NO appearance of being ‘right wing red neck nuts’ allowing the marginalization of this last attempt at regaining sanity among our elected leaders by a return to Constitutional governance.

dodadoom, I remember ALL too well Iran/Contra as a black uniform and black unmarked chopper conspirator before conspiracy was cool. As David said, all of this we brought on ourselves by grabbing the flag and charging off to save the world at every NWO arranged ‘patriotic war’ of opportunity. All in reality nothing more than wars for the freedom of multinational corporations to make the powers that be rich, while destroying our Republic. Not to mention the Patriot Act after a classic black flag op; how stupid can some people get and still breath? Why did we not heed the Founding Father’s warning against foreign entanglements and national banks control of our currency?

As for a French style revolution, an attempt at a ‘Age of Reason off with their heads’ cluster f--- will bring not only murderous lunacy, but certain alienation of our armed forces, forcing them to intervene against us. Indeed, that is the VERY excuse for prepositioning our armed forces now; prevention of French style madness is the ‘boogey man’ example used in weapon collection Action Op Ready Orders to inspire the troops to follow orders. Any hint of such uncontrolled madness will only play into their hands.

Better a peaceful formation with weapons at port arms when the collection raids begin, JUST as at the Lexington Green. With of course the resulting refusal to disperse or surrender their arms; this will precipitate the ‘Second Shot’ that WILL BE HEARD around the world. Preserving the moral high ground through the right of self defense.



[edit on 3/30/2009 by SGTChas]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Sorry dude, got through about two of your sentences.

This entire thread opened on THIS PREMISE "Is it appropriate for a Congresswoman to call for an armed revolt"...

The answer is no.

I made this point as best I could. Apparently this simple answer isn't good enough for some.

NO, it is not appropriate and it is UNCALLED FOR.
There are other ways.

I emplore you to look into the French Revolution.
Violent Revolution will not work in America. If you cannot see this, you are jaded.

Your Patriotic Sentiments are nice to hear, but they are wrongheaded.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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The point I make with the French Revolution is the very point you are getting at.

Funny how folks can argue at one thing from different perspectives and end up calling eachother names.

The thing about the French-Style Revolution is that it requires an informed populace to get off the ground.

However, I believe whole-heartedly that it would never see the violence that actually took place during the French Revolution.

Why?
This isn't a Monarchy.

If people are informed enough to march with force against the government, BUT THEY REALIZE that they don't want violence, then it can be salvaged WITHOUT violence. Especially in a Republic style society. The silent majority MUST BECOME THE VOCAL MAJORITY.

If this happens, it all resolves itself. Anything else will tear this nation assunder.


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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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The problem here is that people go into the fight preconvinced that it will come to that. Your last post is a perfect example.

What NEEDS to happen is a sheer will of force (WITHOUT ARMS OR ANY INTENTIONS OF ALLOWING VIOLENCE TO HAPPEN) that marches to the very steps of the capitol building and tells the treasonous bastards to leave.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said before, the violent type of fight will tear this nation to shreds.



[edit on 30-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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First Brother Jay, I never called you a name; such tactics are for those who cannot over come an argument with reason. If I even gave that appearance, please forgive me as that was never my intent.

Second, all revolutions get to the point were the outcome of appeals to reason are obvious; after years of Emails, letters, throwing the bums out (only to find out we put in bigger idots) and protest of all types, I just feel (as others do) that such continued efforts appear to be exercises in futility; just as Patrick Henry and others did right before they sent the last appeal to England. The arrogance of power breeds ears that hear only what they wish. Remember the Kings reply to the colonist? Instructive reading at this point in time.

By the way, I am glad you rejoined the thread.



[edit on 3/30/2009 by SGTChas]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Alright, I think that I am assuming that people are following my reasoning too much.

I'll break it down the way I see it.

You have two options. 1) To do exactly as the Congresswoman suggests and grab guns and march. (these sentiments have been echoed throughout this thread)

2) You get enough people worked up to do it in sheer numbers, without weapons and with an aim of simply forcing the f-ers out with numbers alone.

Only option 2 will work (and this is what I refer to as a French Style Revolution)...

During the French Revolution, they approached things precisely as I suggested. You take 400,000 UNARMED American Patriots straight to the steps of the Capitol. You walk in and tell them to get the hell out.

Then you walk to the White House and do the same.

Through sheer numbers this should suffice. However, if they decide to fight you, it is on.


However, I don't think it would ever come to bloodshed though, as this isn't a Monarchy.

To argue against this approach is to elect to take a tactic of a covert special forces type soldier who is going to somehow Rambo his way into heroic status. It simply won't work.

To say we can gather 400,000 people who are ready to march on the capitol with weapons is stupid.
First of all, they wouldn't make it within 100 miles of Washington before they were detained individually.

This is just for starters.

The "revolution" people speak of here WILL NOT happen until it is viewed as a measure of despair by the masses. It is unfortunate, but it is the way it is.

Something that can be drawn from this in a positive light however, is the fact that the French Revolution actually went down the EXACT path we are on now before it ever unfolded.
Financial Crisis. People PISSED OFF that the elite were still being paid extravagently. People marched ON PARLIAMENT FIRST.

This is how it works.
Anything else WON'T work.

As I said, more folks still have to "wake up"... and jumping the gun in this situation is suicide.

[edit on 30-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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I want to know what people want to get from revolution here...

I understand the idea of the constitution being upheld, but what does that mean for you
and does that hold true for your entire revolutionary army?



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Alright, I think that I am assuming that people are following my reasoning too much.

I'll break it down the way I see it.

You have two options. 1) To do exactly as the Congresswoman suggests and grab guns and march. (these sentiments have been echoed throughout this thread)

2) You get enough people worked up to do it in sheer numbers, without weapons and with an aim of simply forcing the f-ers out with numbers alone.

Only option 2 will work (and this is what I refer to as a French Style Revolution)...

During the French Revolution, they approached things precisely as I suggested. You take 400,000 UNARMED American Patriots straight to the steps of the Capitol. You walk and and tell them to get the hell out.

Then you walk to the White House and do the same.

Through sheer numbers this should suffice. However, if they decide to fight you, it is on.


However, I don't think it would ever come to bloodshed though, as this isn't a Monarchy.

To argue against this approach is to elect to take a tactic of a covert special forces type soldier who is going to somehow Rambo his way into heroic status. It simply won't work.

To say we can gather 400,000 people who are ready to march on the capitol with weapons is stupid.
First of all, they wouldn't make it within 100 miles of Washington before they were detained individually.

This is just for starters.

The "revolution" people speak of here WILL NOT happen until it is viewed as a measure of despair by the masses. It is unfortunate, but it is the way it is.

Something that can be drawn from this in a positive light however, is the fact that the French Revolution actually went down the EXACT path we are on now before it ever unfolded.
Financial Crisis. People PISSED OFF that the elite were still being paid extravagently. People marched ON PARLIAMENT FIRST.

This is how it works.
Anything else WON'T work.

As I said, more folks still have to "wake up"... and jumping the gun in this situation is suicide.


OK

I here your idea...

How do you repost for the government and get better people and results?
How about the intelligence agencies and nuclear footballs flying around, how do you account for the other things.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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I realize you didn't call me a coward and I appreciate that. I am speaking more the point of what your followers had to say.
Nevermind. I won't quibble about it.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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As I said, it is unfortunate that in such a complex environment as a nation of 300 MILLION people, there is a path that must be followed.

These things have happened before.
It would be foolish to try to force the hand of social progress.

These things, if they are meant to happen, must follow these steps.

Nuclear footballs?
Doubtfull.

The MAJORITY must speak up!
If not, the MINORITY WILL BE SLAUGHTERED AND THE MAJORITY WILL SUFFER FOR IT.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:52 PM
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Sgt, thanks for your reply and everyone for their posts!
Yes Jay glad your back, like the Sgt said. No need to resort to names.
(unless its about the banksters!)

No seriously you have a very good point!
Whaddya think Sarge? Sounds logical.
Except we'd need alot of new people to fill those positions.
And you know what they say, absolute power currupts absolutely.
Or sooner or later and everyone has a price.
Where are we gonna find that many that would do a good job
for cheap? Can we outsource that I wonder?

Sorry I'm being silly, because I dont know what it would take
to get the country's head out of its butt and get back to whats
important for our very health and sustainability as a nation!
I think we're gonna need some sports illustrated models on
the commercials or it would never work, whatever is decided!
Or in the middle of a news break for octomom during american idol!


Forgot to make my point!
Been a long day, sorry, but it pays!
Um, who will be put in charge that everyone can trust?
Where we gona find all these HONEST people?



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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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You don't need a whole heck of a lot.

Just a few folks that are steadfast in their convictions to throw the corruption out on its ass once they get in.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Jay, I knew where you were coming from as it was some of your post that changed my opinion of PEACEFULLY caring firearms at this point; I agree with you. We’ll give our last letter to the King on April 15.

However, having been where I have been and done what I have done, I know the outcome of all we are doing. The forces that be MUST enslave us or have their plans ruined. They have been plotting this for sometime; have you ever read the Report from Iron Mountain? This has been in the works for a long time.

No one who follows me will use verbal abuse in the attempt to marginalize those holding differing opinions; this is the tactic used by the enemies of freedom. The logic of liberty needs no gutter trash talk to aide in its defense. The purity of our Constitutional rights descending from God is the beauty of ultimate wisdom; to whom do you appeal in deigning them to those who have been granted such a divine boon?

We stand together brother; holster your six-shooter – the cause of liberty calls for unity.



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posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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To answer your question about what revolution means to me...

Well, revolution in my eyes must be approached very forcibly. That may sound odd, but hear me out.

The 'revolution' I speak of is one that exercises TO A TEE the rights that were deemed unalienable by the very same document. Therefore, those rights must be MADE accountable to the scumbags that feel it is THEIR RIGHT to subvert them.
This can only be accomplished through sheer will OF VOICE. Because lets face it, they have the bombs.

I would rather see 160 million Americans tell Henry Kissenger to go to hell. And that if he doesn't go there willingly, we'll SEND HIM THERE!

This is what I speak of when I speak of revolution. FOR AMERICANS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR OWN DAMNED COUNTRY!!!!

Since I started responding to this thread, I have sent THREE emails to my representative. Not to toot my own horn, but I only personally know Two people who have EVER sent correspondance to their representatives! This is DISGUSTING and THIS IS WHAT THE ELITE LAUGH ABOUT!!!
We DON'T F-ING CARE!



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