Faces of Fascism: Calgary, March 17th, 2009

I totally agree. There should be a stupid tax.

This person is hopelessly misguided. Im all for taking action to secure our liberties, but trying to citizens arrest the former President of the United States?? I mean honestly. Whats next, is he going to go try this with Bill Clinton, or any of the other Presidents who may have committed crimes in office? This is a joke, and your all wasting your time talking about it.

If this "brave guy" was really trying to go above and beyond for liberty and justice, I could think of many other effective ways, than this. All he did here was to try to get some publicity for himself, and all he did was make an A** of himself. IMHO, someone should kick this guy in the nuts and send him home on the short bus.

What you should do is marvel at the courage of this man, and wish you yourself possessed his morals and dignity. But one thing your dare not do, and you've already crossed that line... is to belittle what this man did.

I feel sorry for you because you can't even recognize a hero when you see one. I mean, one look at your avatar makes it perfectly clear that you're a very confused individual.

exactly thank you man for doing what you did...if we had more people like you in this world than maybe just maybe some changes could occur that would put us in the right direction for everyone in the world and not just those in charge...it was brave and courageous and yes people will look at it as being stupid because that is wat they want us to see this as

"I'm sure you believe he (GWB) is a war criminal, however if you actually took the time to review the UN sanctions against ole Saddam you would see we were justified in going in there."


MMMMMMMMMMMMM, that Kool Aid tastes awfully gooooooood masssserrrrrr! Let the Iraqi's come here and bomb the sh&* out of you and your family for no good reason. Will you be singing the same tune then?

I was driving down the road when I heard this story come up on the news radio station I listen to. And I remember thinking that guy has some seriously big nuts. Good attempt, imagine if a million of us were there to attempt the arrest.

Honor to see you've made it to ATS, keep up the good work brother.

What a legend!

He should have tried to organise a bigger crew though, at least twenty like minded people. Still, mad respect to this man. Even though Bush was just the mouthpiece for the real threat, he still knew what was going on.

I am very disappointed at some of the ATS members on this thread. How can you call this guy a loony and an idiot??? Absolutely disgusting. You people need to pull your heads out of your as ses. If they already are, then slip a noose over it because you are part of the problem.

Yes there was a better way to deal with this situation but at least he is trying.

Americans and Canadians alike must organise and protest NOW!!! The time for action is NOW!!!! Obama has put so many back to sleep and their NWO plans are picking up speed.

I live way over in New Zealand but myself and a few friends are fighting the ignorance that has become a virus running rampant out of control.

It is not too late, people rise up........

Originally posted by Unknown Truth
reply to post by crhamlett

 

Let me ask you something.. Will this man plan to some day arrest President Obama for war crimes as well?

See, this doesn't make sense to me. If the war in Iraq was illegal, then would the war in Afghanistan not be illegal too, if in fact 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated to justify the start of the war on terror?

If you are to believe that 9/11 was an inside job, how can you justify the war in Afghanistan, and the fact your new President is sending more American troops over there.. Wouldn't that also make Obama guilty of war crimes?

Yes, the Obama administration is also guilty of war crimes. The names have changed, but the agenda remains the same. We are just on the tail end of a Plan that has been rolling for many many years. WWI and WWII were also started on false pretences by the same families that are running the war machine now. These families are also guilty of funding the enemy in WWII and in the present day.

...post by crhamlett ....

It wasn't about calling attention to oneself. There was no media there covering the event.

Just because there was no MSM there doesn't mean there was no media. What about the video that was taken showing this guy getting wrestled to the ground. Why was this guy one of the only "peaceful protesters" to get arrested? Don't you think some of his actions were deemed a threat to security in the area?

It was about Canadian Law not being enforced at the explicit demand of more than 1000 Canadian citizens.
It was about one man peacefully acting on the behalf of these Canadians citizens whose lawful petitions and legally filed complaints had been totally disregarded by their elected public servants who were there to enforce the law, not break it.

Are you going to "enforce the law" on those that illegally download music, movies, games etc. How about the ones who take illegal drugs? Wouldn't this also be in the interests of your fellow Canadians?

So who are the criminals here? And why wasn't the media there? Why was it that most Canadians had no prior knowledge of this event? Could it be that the elected officials knew they couldn't con the Canadian citizens into not knowing their own laws?
Maybe in America that works, but Not in Canada!

I'm not American, and I do not like George Bush any more than you do. However, people from certain countries (including USA) cannot be charged with War Crimes through an international court system (as of the present.) How can an individual be "suspected of war crimes" if he cannot even be charged with war crimes according to International Law? Also BWG is a US citizen, not a Canadian citizen.

Most of us couldn't walk an inch in Splitting The Sky's Moccasins. He is one of the greatest of men alive today. He already has an honorable place in our present day history books. He didn't just pop up out of nowhere.

I'm not attempting to discredit him or ignore his past actions. He obviously has great courage and determination. He seems very passionate about his political views and I'm assuming had good intentions. However, it appears he used this event to draw attention to himself and others of his cause through controversial means; methods which would be frowned upon by anybody living in a civiliased society.

Originally posted by CoffinFeeder
reply to post by crhamlett

 

*yawn* hey look, another person trying a publicity stunt who just doesn't 'get it'.

He wasn't in the process of committing a crime at the moment, which is pretty much where your so called citizen's arrest powers end. if I'm reading your location right, you're out of your jurisdiction too. You're also not empowered to serve an arrest warrant, so yeah, you probably deserved to have the book thrown at you.

it's just to bad stupidity isn't painful for people like you.

Man!...you have TOTALLY missed everything! You are definitely not a detailed oriented person.

For all of you who are detailed oriented people..go feast at:

www.splittingthesky.net...
check out "Anthem for Dissent" an awesome piece of music by STS himself

www.splittingthesky.blogspot.com...

www.criminalsout.com...

Originally posted by treemanx
I totally agree. There should be a stupid tax.

This person is hopelessly misguided. Im all for taking action to secure our liberties, but trying to citizens arrest the former President of the United States?? I mean honestly. Whats next, is he going to go try this with Bill Clinton, or any of the other Presidents who may have committed crimes in office? This is a joke, and your all wasting your time talking about it.

If this "brave guy" was really trying to go above and beyond for liberty and justice, I could think of many other effective ways, than this. All he did here was to try to get some publicity for himself, and all he did was make an A** of himself. IMHO, someone should kick this guy in the nuts and send him home on the short bus.

For some reason I had been under the impression that the posters at ATS were predominately those with inquiring minds and who had a zest for learning details.

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"I'm sure you believe he (GWB) is a war criminal, however if you actually took the time to review the UN sanctions against ole Saddam you would see we were justified in going in there."


MMMMMMMMMMMMM, that Kool Aid tastes awfully gooooooood masssserrrrrr! Let the Iraqi's come here and bomb the sh&* out of you and your family for no good reason. Will you be singing the same tune then?

The same people who empowered Saddam are the same ones who selected Regan, Bush, Clinton, GWB, and Obamanation. And...They are the same people who run the UN.

give it time: president obama will become a war criminal according to such ludicrous definitions. any commander-in-chief has the power to ensure national security and the safety of america's system to the best of its ability. to call the former president a war criminal implies our military is guilty of war crimes also. think the tired nazi excuse of just following orders. i do not believe and never will that up to this point it is the goal of the military to intentionally taget noncombatants or civilians. let me remind everyone that individual cases of those that broke the standards of engagement have been prosecuted. heck one was arrested just 8 miles from my home. he is in prison now serving a long sentence. a federal sentence means you serve what you are given. no time off for good behavior. since our new illustrious president intends to increase our military presence in Afghanistan and has hinted that the taliban extremists are planning multiple attacks upon the US from Pakistan does this make him a war criminal since it is more than likely civilians will continue to die as part of collateral damage. it is one thing to accidentally or inadvertantly kill or injure civilians including children. it is quite another to target innocents as do the islamo-fascist militant terrorists. why hasn't anyone called for the ICJ at the Hague to bring those terrorists to justice for War Crimes. if they have i apologize for my ignorance. personally i feel that those that seek my destruction should be arrested and indefinitely incarcerated or killed. what is so sad but true is the terrorists would just as happily remove the appeasers' heads from their bodies as those who engage them on all fronts. i have no desire to live in an islamic state ruled by ultra-conservative sharai law. then again women would lose the right to drive, vote, go in public without a male escort from the family and be prohibited from working in almost all occupations. to be sure we must not stoop to the level of the terrorists yet it is our obligation as human being to ensure they do not enslave or harm our children's children. do you even understand that the way the islamists claim they do not condone the killing of "innocents" is due to their interpretation of their "sacred" lit that infidels or non-Muslims are NOT innocent? War crimes? i guess it is true that ignorance is bliss, well at least until reality sets in!

LMAO!Why am i laughing?Because ive never had a problem with law enforcement in canada.Never been arrested,and every single officer that has pulled me over had a reason.Speeding,parking in a no parking zone,running yellow lights that sort of thing.So how you ask did i come to this?I chose my friends wisely.I stayed away from those who i knew would cause trouble later in life.I quit drinking 15 years ago.i quit weed one year ago when i found out some of the money i was spending wormed its way back to the very people fighting our troops overseas.That was the final straw with drugs for me.

[edit on 29-3-2009 by Justice69]

Originally posted by Dark Ghost
...post by crhamlett ....

Dark Ghost:

Just because there was no MSM there doesn't mean there was no media. What about the video that was taken showing this guy getting wrestled to the ground. Why was this guy one of the only "peaceful protesters" to get arrested? Don't you think some of his actions were deemed a threat to security in the area?

Caught on video are a few armed and dangerous people who discharged their weapons of mass destruction and were arrested. See the video of the Flip-Flop throwers. I don’t know what law they broke, but there must be a law against throwing Flip-Flops because they did get arrested. LOL! If this had happened at an airport, all of us would now be forced to check our shoes at the door….and sadly most of us would conform. Any non-conformers would be frowned upon and be accused of being aligned with the terrorist agenda…even though no one seems to know what that means…or even cares to know.

As for your question about security and STS, he was not armed, used no force and broke no law.

Dark Ghost:

Are you going to "enforce the law" on those that illegally download music, movies, games etc. How about the ones who take illegal drugs? Wouldn't this also be in the interests of your fellow Canadians?

Arresting petty criminals is what gov't officials and police do. But they don't want to arrest the war criminals. That is the problem, and that is why citizens are compelled, authorized and morally obligated to to take action to enforce the law.

Whether YOU like it or not!

Dark Ghost:

I'm not American, and I do not like George Bush any more than you do. However, people from certain countries (including USA) cannot be charged with War Crimes through an international court system (as of the present.) How can an individual be "suspected of war crimes" if he cannot even be charged with war crimes according to International Law? Also BWG is a US citizen, not a Canadian citizen.

You are flat wrong.

How do you think that Slobodan Milosevic was brought before the International Court in the Hague??

It is also why Pinochet of Chile is being sought.

Have you ever heard of the Nuremberg Treaty?

Violation of the Nuremberg Principles defining "War Crimes"
Principle Vl of the Nuremberg Principles states:
The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under; international law:
a. Crimes against peace:
i. Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or
a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
ii .Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment
of any of the acts mentioned under (i).

Bush invaded a sovereign country that had not threatened the United States and had no ability to do so. Bush had been making plans to invade Iraq even before 9/11.

For more on Bush “Google” Chapter 1, Article 2 of The UN Charter,
Also Check out www.impeachbush.tv...

Here is the Canadian Law:
(because we are signatories) ....
Section 35 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
states that a foreign national is inadmissible if this
person has committed an act outside of Canada that is
referred to in Sections four to seven of the Crimes
Against Humanity and War Crimes Act.

The section states that a person is inadmissible if he
or she was a senior official in the service of a gov't
that has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human
rights violations, or genocide, a war crime or a crime
against humanity. and, if such a "credibly accused" person is found to be in Canada, they are to be arrested.

The Official RCMP website says:
"As long as war crimes and crimes against humanity are being committed, Canada will be vigilant to prevent those responsible from entering Canada and becoming or remaining citizens. We will be ready to commence criminal investigations and prosecute such persons found in Canada." www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca...

Dark Ghost:

I'm not attempting to discredit him or ignore his past actions. He obviously has great courage and determination. He seems very passionate about his political views and I'm assuming had good intentions. However, it appears he used this event to draw attention to himself and others of his cause through controversial means; methods which would be frowned upon by anybody living in a civiliased society.

To you it appears that way.
You frown on

Controversial means?
Civilized vs uncivilized?

You say that you are not attempting to discredit him, then why are you busy posting slanted statements? The truth is not hard to find.

The facts are at:
www.warcriminalsout.com...
www.splittingthesky.net...
www.splittingthesky.blogspot.com...

reply to post by crhamlett


Sigh...if what all you said is correct and true, and what I have said is incorrect and false, why is it that this person got arrested and not GWB? It just does not make sense...if the majority of Canadians felt the same way as this guy, GWB would have been arrested and tried. So maybe the fact of the situation is that you and your buddy might be a bit delusional?

You have such a potent hatred of this man that your emotions are blinding your objectivity on the situation - it's ok, you are not alone...

I heard about this, All the power to you for making a stand, not just talking about it. also I have heard one of the judges was going to hear him out on his civilian's arrest of bush. Could someone clear that part up for me? because im not sure if it is true.