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Originally posted by Unknown Truth
reply to post by crhamlett
Let me ask you something.. Will this man plan to some day arrest President Obama for war crimes as well?
See, this doesn't make sense to me. If the war in Iraq was illegal, then would the war in Afghanistan not be illegal too, if in fact 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated to justify the start of the war on terror?
If you are to believe that 9/11 was an inside job, how can you justify the war in Afghanistan, and the fact your new President is sending more American troops over there.. Wouldn't that also make Obama guilty of war crimes?
It wasn't about calling attention to oneself. There was no media there covering the event.
It was about Canadian Law not being enforced at the explicit demand of more than 1000 Canadian citizens.
It was about one man peacefully acting on the behalf of these Canadians citizens whose lawful petitions and legally filed complaints had been totally disregarded by their elected public servants who were there to enforce the law, not break it.
So who are the criminals here? And why wasn't the media there? Why was it that most Canadians had no prior knowledge of this event? Could it be that the elected officials knew they couldn't con the Canadian citizens into not knowing their own laws?
Maybe in America that works, but Not in Canada!
Most of us couldn't walk an inch in Splitting The Sky's Moccasins. He is one of the greatest of men alive today. He already has an honorable place in our present day history books. He didn't just pop up out of nowhere.
Originally posted by CoffinFeeder
reply to post by crhamlett
*yawn* hey look, another person trying a publicity stunt who just doesn't 'get it'.
He wasn't in the process of committing a crime at the moment, which is pretty much where your so called citizen's arrest powers end. if I'm reading your location right, you're out of your jurisdiction too. You're also not empowered to serve an arrest warrant, so yeah, you probably deserved to have the book thrown at you.
it's just to bad stupidity isn't painful for people like you.
Originally posted by treemanx
I totally agree. There should be a stupid tax.
This person is hopelessly misguided. Im all for taking action to secure our liberties, but trying to citizens arrest the former President of the United States?? I mean honestly. Whats next, is he going to go try this with Bill Clinton, or any of the other Presidents who may have committed crimes in office? This is a joke, and your all wasting your time talking about it.
If this "brave guy" was really trying to go above and beyond for liberty and justice, I could think of many other effective ways, than this. All he did here was to try to get some publicity for himself, and all he did was make an A** of himself. IMHO, someone should kick this guy in the nuts and send him home on the short bus.
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"I'm sure you believe he (GWB) is a war criminal, however if you actually took the time to review the UN sanctions against ole Saddam you would see we were justified in going in there."
MMMMMMMMMMMMM, that Kool Aid tastes awfully gooooooood masssserrrrrr! Let the Iraqi's come here and bomb the sh&* out of you and your family for no good reason. Will you be singing the same tune then?
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
...post by crhamlett ....
Just because there was no MSM there doesn't mean there was no media. What about the video that was taken showing this guy getting wrestled to the ground. Why was this guy one of the only "peaceful protesters" to get arrested? Don't you think some of his actions were deemed a threat to security in the area?
Caught on video are a few armed and dangerous people who discharged their weapons of mass destruction and were arrested. See the video of the Flip-Flop throwers. I don’t know what law they broke, but there must be a law against throwing Flip-Flops because they did get arrested. LOL! If this had happened at an airport, all of us would now be forced to check our shoes at the door….and sadly most of us would conform. Any non-conformers would be frowned upon and be accused of being aligned with the terrorist agenda…even though no one seems to know what that means…or even cares to know.
As for your question about security and STS, he was not armed, used no force and broke no law.
Are you going to "enforce the law" on those that illegally download music, movies, games etc. How about the ones who take illegal drugs? Wouldn't this also be in the interests of your fellow Canadians?
Arresting petty criminals is what gov't officials and police do. But they don't want to arrest the war criminals. That is the problem, and that is why citizens are compelled, authorized and morally obligated to to take action to enforce the law.
Whether YOU like it or not!
I'm not American, and I do not like George Bush any more than you do. However, people from certain countries (including USA) cannot be charged with War Crimes through an international court system (as of the present.) How can an individual be "suspected of war crimes" if he cannot even be charged with war crimes according to International Law? Also BWG is a US citizen, not a Canadian citizen.
You are flat wrong.
How do you think that Slobodan Milosevic was brought before the International Court in the Hague??
It is also why Pinochet of Chile is being sought.
Have you ever heard of the Nuremberg Treaty?
Violation of the Nuremberg Principles defining "War Crimes"
Principle Vl of the Nuremberg Principles states:
The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under; international law:
a. Crimes against peace:
i. Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression or
a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
ii .Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment
of any of the acts mentioned under (i).
Bush invaded a sovereign country that had not threatened the United States and had no ability to do so. Bush had been making plans to invade Iraq even before 9/11.
For more on Bush “Google” Chapter 1, Article 2 of The UN Charter,
Also Check out www.impeachbush.tv...
Here is the Canadian Law:
(because we are signatories) ....
Section 35 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
states that a foreign national is inadmissible if this
person has committed an act outside of Canada that is
referred to in Sections four to seven of the Crimes
Against Humanity and War Crimes Act.
The section states that a person is inadmissible if he
or she was a senior official in the service of a gov't
that has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human
rights violations, or genocide, a war crime or a crime
against humanity. and, if such a "credibly accused" person is found to be in Canada, they are to be arrested.
The Official RCMP website says:
"As long as war crimes and crimes against humanity are being committed, Canada will be vigilant to prevent those responsible from entering Canada and becoming or remaining citizens. We will be ready to commence criminal investigations and prosecute such persons found in Canada." www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca...
I'm not attempting to discredit him or ignore his past actions. He obviously has great courage and determination. He seems very passionate about his political views and I'm assuming had good intentions. However, it appears he used this event to draw attention to himself and others of his cause through controversial means; methods which would be frowned upon by anybody living in a civiliased society.
To you it appears that way.
You frown on
Civilized vs uncivilized?
You say that you are not attempting to discredit him, then why are you busy posting slanted statements? The truth is not hard to find.
The facts are at: