Schwarzenegger To Provide Government Camps For Homeless

Schwarzenegger To Provide Government Camps For Homeless

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Legislation currently working it’s way through Congress mandates the establishment of “national emergency centers” to be located on military installations.

The purpose of such facilities is to provide “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster,” the expansion of which under FEMA is codified under HR 645, otherwise known as the National Emergency Centers Act.

Ominously, the bill states that the camps can be used to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security,” an open ended mandate which many fear could mean the forced detention of American citizens in the event of widespread rioting after a national emergency or total economic collapse.

The issue of containment camps re-gained national attention three years ago when it was announced that Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.

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The first step?

Or simply help for those who have fallen on hard times?

Either way, if it becomes MANDATORY for homeless people to be put into these camps, it spells the end of more freedoms.

A more ominous note is the legislation that these "camps" can be used for other means, determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

Worrying times indeed - is this how it begins?

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wooohhooo


here come the FEMA death camps

Maybe that is the answer to the appearance of FEMA camps?
We dont have anything like that here in Aus. (to my knowledge):yet.
It is interesting what a charlatan Arnie has become since entering the political world, but hey, we've examples of that here to in Aus. too!
Maybe Im jumping to conclusions- just throwing it out there! would appreciate any feedback.
Cheers

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reply to post by mental modulator


Well, this IS a conspiracy site and with all the CT's about the FEMA camps this is a question worth exploring IMO.

A major point is this:
Is this how it all starts, rounding up the homeless and popping them into camps?
Next thing they'll be required to "labour" in order to pay for their accomodation.

And if they force people into these camps, isn't that a scary thought?

It certainly is to me...

Guess it took the average American Joe going homeless for someone to take them semi-serious.

Even still I am sure they will find a way to sort through the lot, and still pass over the mentally disabled, disabled vets, addicts, and those simple victims of poverty and or abuse to find the guys they really are trying to help. It's not the ones institutions dump on the streets.

I say that because such a thing is a long time coming and I know it is no coincidence that it comes now. The face of homelessness changes, and then it seems drastic action takes place.

We've had our countrymen living on the streets since they were dug into the ground.

- Lee

IF we start letting the apathy of third world nations set in what will keep use from falling to a lower standard? DO you all think MEXICO has always been a crap nest?

Poverty in third world nations isn't a result of "apathy." They simply don't have the funds to prevent it in many cases, and this is often because of insanely massive debts imposed on them by advanced nations and their "loans." It is definitely not because of apathy, that you would even suggest this shows to me your ignorance on the topic.

GOOD on the GOVERNOR - we fooking die for eachother in war - we can fooking help eachother in desperate times!

When you examine the mantra that is so often chanted by Americans, "our soldiers are dying for us over there", especially when its used in reference to Iraq, Afghanistan, the gulf war, vietnam - none of those wars were fought "for other americans." The 'freedoms' you have were never being threatened! The last time US troops "died for other americans" was World War 2, and that was a very long time ago!

The BBC reported a few days ago on the numbers of "tent cities" appearing all over America. I assumed American media isn't telling you the truth on this, as usual.

It seems that the number of foreclosures is shooting up, and the homeless figure is moving right along with it. As expected by anyone with minimal intelligence, and as ignored by TPTB, as expected.

It seems like California is just moving to get these people under some form of shelter.

Despite this being common-sense, I fully expect further posts about this to revolve around the usual NWO, FEMA DEATH CAMPS, "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL US ALL!!!!!11111" mentality.

Originally posted by budski
reply to post by mental modulator

 

Well, this IS a conspiracy site and with all the CT's about the FEMA camps this is a question worth exploring IMO.

A major point is this:
Is this how it all starts, rounding up the homeless and popping them into camps?
Next thing they'll be required to "labour" in order to pay for their accomodation.

And if they force people into these camps, isn't that a scary thought?

NOT you BUDSKI - and yes this is a conspiracy site...

I guess my ultimate point is fascist takeover usually has a method and begin with the targeting of certain undesirables. This is ALWAYS accompanied with populous propaganda rhetoric aimed at "those" people. It works this way because it creates a social apathy which allows for further persecution of a larger part of the fascist society.

NOW if "they" have been hinting at the homeless people being EVIL, BURDENSOME or
sub human then I would be worried. It would indicate that TPTB are attempting to ostracize a portion on the population, making their imprisonment justifiable and socially acceptable. SO far no such speak... DON'T forgot, Fascism depends on a great deal of support from the population, it cannot exist without the physiological aspects.

WOULD you support forced labor for government supplied shelter?

I would not - and I would not support forced shelter for that matter.

I think it is safe to say I do not know a soul who would, fear solved , for the meanwhile.

JUST watch for attempts to dehumanize or marginalize a specific, measurable section or group of the country. That would indicate "GO TIME" IMO.


Mod edit: Fixed quote.

[edit on 3/27/2009 by Hal9000]

The purpose of such facilities is to provide “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster,”

Hardly camps is it?
Of course Alex Jones will blow anything out of proportion, to get more site traffic.

Sorry to appear so cynical Mental Modulator, but seeing that your sooo positive about the topic at hand, can you give me one example in present where politians dont lie ever time they open their mouths???
Seems to me they just keep the status quo for the agenda of finance.
I cant recall anytime in the history of my home (Australia); where any political agenda has been altruistically geared to helping the homeless, or even the constituents that voted a particular party into power.
Like your "two party preferred" political system, our candidates are selected previous to election to ensure they toe-the-line of pre-existing ideals. Usually these ideals play into the desires of big corporate business and the global banking network.
Cheers, and remember also;Arnold never ever used Gear!!!LOL
& Clinton toked the joint- but lucky for the free world ;never inhaled!!!!!

reply to post by aLiiEn


And the point of questioning the source is what?

If you'd care to read the article, you'd see that the original story came from bloomberg, and that there are relevant links and sources to back up everything stated.

Otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

Originally posted by Yazman

IF we start letting the apathy of third world nations set in what will keep use from falling to a lower standard? DO you all think MEXICO has always been a crap nest?

Poverty in third world nations isn't a result of "apathy." They simply don't have the funds to prevent it in many cases, and this is often because of insanely massive debts imposed on them by advanced nations and their "loans." It is definitely not because of apathy, that you would even suggest this shows to me your ignorance on the topic.

GOOD on the GOVERNOR - we fooking die for eachother in war - we can fooking help eachother in desperate times!

When you examine the mantra that is so often chanted by Americans, "our soldiers are dying for us over there", especially when its used in reference to Iraq, Afghanistan, the gulf war, vietnam - none of those wars were fought "for other americans." The 'freedoms' you have were never being threatened! The last time US troops "died for other americans" was World War 2, and that was a very long time ago!

YOUR crapping in the wrong bucket here... D.F is filled with apathy - one of the richest man in the Western hemisphere is a Mexican... D.F has insane wealth and a cast class system if I have ever saw one. The rich hoard and have siphoned so much of the economy to so few that there is a lack of money. There are tens of square miles of shanty towns on the outskirts, the political system failed the the population there and the disregard and apathy for one another is palatable in my experience. I saw a more than few ROTTING on the tubs in D.F - literally BLACK and melted, gooey skin with some hideous condition...

BTW the soldiers fight for eachother - its the nature of war sire.. It is a survival method an basic instinct to embrace similar people and traditions in time of war.So I would say the troops in order to feel they are acting and killing for a purpose do it for the IDEA of the USA - the troops - not you - it is a belief system right or wrong...

I am speaking of the fact that we can spend billions on bombs but have a problem with helping our citizens in peace time. You are jumping on me and seem to have little understanding of the political dichotomy of the the USA at this point in history. Many would state that providing
refuge for displace AMERICANS is socialism - I say it the decent thing to do - at least in the short run.

Originally posted by budski
reply to post by aLiiEn

 

And the point of questioning the source is what?

If you'd care to read the article, you'd see that the original story came from bloomberg, and that there are relevant links and sources to back up everything stated.

Otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

Ok the point is.
And I think its a pretty clear point.
Is that the article it comes from doesn't say anything about camps
The only one talking about camps, is Alex Jones.
It simply says its relocating people from the tent city to the more secure fair grounds.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said a make-shift tent city for the homeless that sprang up in the capital city of Sacramento will be shut down and its residents allowed to stay at the state fairgrounds.

Why is this a bad thing?
They could just kick the people out of the tent city with no regards to where they go.
As has been done in the past.

reply to post by aLiiEn


Allowed to stay?

or forced to stay...

There's a big difference.

And the article is about connecting the dots, and looking for possible problems, especially given the way new laws have been worded, and the way more "camps" are being built as we speak, by contractors under license to the government.

Let's also not forget Arnie's ties to TPTB, including the kennedy's and former Nazi's - if you don't believe me, look it up.

There is a very definite CT angle to this story - it's just that people have to look past the end of their nose to see it.

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
Sorry to appear so cynical Mental Modulator, but seeing that your sooo positive about the topic at hand, can you give me one example in present where politians dont lie ever time they open their mouths???
Seems to me they just keep the status quo for the agenda of finance.
I cant recall anytime in the history of my home (Australia); where any political agenda has been altruistically geared to helping the homeless, or even the constituents that voted a particular party into power.
Like your "two party preferred" political system, our candidates are selected previous to election to ensure they toe-the-line of pre-existing ideals. Usually these ideals play into the desires of big corporate business and the global banking network.
Cheers, and remember also;

Arnold never ever used Gear!!!LOL
& Clinton toked the joint- but lucky for the free world ;never inhaled!!!!!

I will take it at face value until I see otherwise... Politicians lie all the time... BUT fascism depends upon a great deal of support from the population at first. There is NO way you can imprison a measured portion of CALIFORNIA without the support of the population - no way... I lived here during the riots - that was a very small section of a cities population that disabled the entire social services network.

Like I said and like history has shown, if we are talking fascist take over, camps and the like, the population is key to the formula,,, otherwise please cite one instance where FASCIST imprisonment was not proceeded by anti "group" propaganda, Please?

I mean be stone dumb, but what is the GEAR reference?

In order for these camps to be used the FEDERAL gov't has to declare a state of emergency.
2nd line

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reply to post by mental modulator


That's a fair point, but I would say that these things ALWAYS start off slowly, and look like they're being done with good intentions.

The Nazi camps were "marketed" as being a fresh start for those first to go in.

It wasn't until later that the "final solution" was implemented.

I'm not saying these are the same, just making a historical reference.

Isn't the first step always getting the "undesirables" off the streets?

Out of sight, out of mind?

Originally posted by budski

Legislation currently working it’s way through Congress mandates the establishment of “national emergency centers” to be located on military installations.

Can anyone give me a good reason why these National Emergency Centers are to be located on military installations? Wouldn't that automatically mean that the inhabitants of those centers are subject to the installation rules and enforcement of those rules by military police?
And are those people allowed to leave the center as they like? You can't have civilians wandering around the base can you?

Perhaps these camps really are meant to help people, but the placement of those camps would make them look an awfull lot like a prisoncamp.

BTW. If those camps are the first step towards 'death camps' you'll know soon enough. They will only build a few (small) camps...but those camps will have a seemingly unending capacity to take in more people.